...is not that there were Polish death camps. The point is all Europeans are responsible for the Holocaust. So see Poles massacring Jews after the Holocaust was over in 1946 and segregating Jews in the 1930s.
The point about Poland
Jason Hill
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Matthew Lopez
Oy vey goyim if you have white skin you are personally responsible for the 6 million
t. Jews in real life but not even kidding or exaggerating
Dominic Clark
It's true though. France was giving Jewish children to Hitler even when he didn't ask for them.
Hunter Clark
>Jews collaborated with Nazis in Germany during the Second World War, they were very numerous in Nazi organizations - German such as:
police in ghettos, Judenrats, Sonderkommandos, Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst, Group 13, and Jewish Freedom Guard.
Over 150,000 people of Jewish descent fought in the ranks of the Third Reich, the collaboration reached up to 10% of the Jewish population (in the case of Poles, up to 0.1% where in the case of Poles, mainly dregs, people from the margins of society collaborated, Jews mostly went to Jewish cooperation) elite).
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Josiah Scott
80 millions of people died in the World War II, stop acting like only Jews were victims and get over it already, it's been almost a century.
Joshua Anderson
Well only Jews were an unarmed population set out for extermination.
Alexander Rivera
Yeah and Polish fascists helped Nazis kill Jews. So what?
Josiah Martin
thats a lie. for one example 10% of people murdered is Auschwitz alone were ethnically Polish
>The original assumptions of the Nazi master plans, which were completely detached from reality, entailed the expulsion and mass extermination of around 85 percent (over 20 million) of the Polish citizens of Poland with the remaining 15 percent to be turned into slaves.
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Juan Hughes
Did Poles have an army or not? Were Poles set out for extermination or enslavement?
Juan Brown
It's about time we start talking about jewish death camps.
Thomas Bell
>Did Poles have an army or not?
no, Poland fell within a month, it was occupied by German forces for the rest of the war.
>Were Poles set out for extermination or enslavement?
yes they were, like Gypsies and other Slavs. I just provided you with the links.
Jose Cruz
Get fucked
Poland will not take in terrorists
Hunter Wilson
Slavs were set out for colonization, not extermination.
Poles were also carrying out violent attacks as Insurgents.
Justin Sullivan
Point is that there were polish death camps. FOR GERMANS!
Ryder Green
The ONR-Falanga fought against Germany.
Anthony Hall
But they helped kill Jews too.
Owen Jones
look at the pie chart. Slavs were 22% of all Holocaust victims, 42% if you count Soviet POVs.
>Poles were also carrying out violent attacks as Insurgents.
i.e. underground resistance.
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by your logic Jews had a standing army as well
Samuel Smith
so 42% were jews. The next largest group being slavs at 22% (although most of the soviet PoWs were also slavic.
you still do not think that this was a targeted extermination of an unarmed populace based on race/religion?
even though the roma and slavs were killed for similar reasons (which is appalling) , it is still a racial genocide?
when 10% of all the causalities int he entire war come from one minority group in one area of the war, who were systematically rounded up enslaved and murdered, it is a bit significant.
Bentley Evans
it was punished by Polish underground army with death.
en.wikipedia.org
>The Polish Secret State considered szmalcownictwo an act of collaboration with the German occupiers. The Armia Krajowa (Home Army) punished it with the death sentence as a criminal act of treason.
Asher Cooper
Yes but the point was Poles were set out to be enslaved, as were Russians. Not extermination.
Jack Campbell
One question, were jews sent to Arbeitslager (forced labor camps) or exclusevely jewish camps?
Brandon Lee
Roma were going to be expelled like Himmler wanted.
Jackson Flores
it's also important to mention that Polish collaborators had been usually executed by polish undergound state
Carson Miller
but they got gassed anyway...
Owen Wright
Nonsense. Armia Krajowa abandoned Jews many times.
Landon Sanchez
Exclusively Jewish camps.
Noah Long
Some did. But the purpose wasn't total extermination.
Isaac Lopez
>all Europeans are responsible for the Holocaust
Hey, don't try to steal us Germans our accomplishments! It was still mainly us who gave the Jew what he asked for!
Isaac Walker
some were slave labour camps, some had extermination facilities as well.
why are you asking this, it is all well known.
Hudson Ward
Nope! French gave you Jewish children even when you didn't ask. Don't underestimate the maliciousness of Europeans as a whole.
Joshua Adams
No, they were too busy fighting alongside with Armia Krajowa.
Jack Gray
If Auschwitz was a 'death camp,' they why did it have a hospital for inmates? If Auschwitz was a 'death camp,' they why did it pay the inmate workers with scrip money they could use in the camp brothel? Look up 'Monowitz' which was a huge industrial factory adjacent to Auschwitz that needed tens of thousands of workers each day that came from Auschwitz.
"There's no business like Shoah business..."
Michael Stewart
really?
what was the purpose of putting them in gas chambers then?
Xavier Allen
And they segregated Jews in the 1930s.
Liam Gutierrez
Ignore Sobidor, Treblinka and Belzec.
Angel Bailey
To kill some of them.
Hunter Moore
How long will you cry for you snivelling victims. It's so unnatractive
Move on with your lives like everyone else
Connor Clark
>if america is a free nation why does it not have free health care?
this is how stupid your question sounds.
there is no contradiction between having a slave labour camp, with the facilities you mention, and having the facility to kill those who are not fit for slave labour. (as Goebbels said only about 40% were good for labour the others had to be "liquidated" )
for instance on the transport that brought anne Frank to Auschwitz be the passenger list from which had 1,019 people listed; of those, 425 were selected for labor and registered at Auschwitz, and 594 were not processed into the camp and were gassed. The 594 included all of the children on the train who were under 15 years old. None of the 425 people who were registered were under 15.
Gavin Bell
Fuck you you bunch of scam artists. This is about the refugees and ONLY about the refugees. If we'd taken the refugees earlier, they would have held on to this Polish deathcamps narrative until we refused to take more refugees. That's all it's about. Before it was Germany trying to pin it on us. Now it's the Jews all of the sudden. This is not a coincidence.
Tyler Baker
Pole here,
when your next ((((holocaust))))comes about im going to puta round in the skull from my balcony of any kike that rings on my door bell.
Carson Rodriguez
>so 42% were jews. The next largest group being slavs at 22% (although most of the soviet PoWs were also slavic.
which counters the argument that Jews were the only unarmed population set out for extermination.
>you still do not think that this was a targeted extermination of an unarmed populace based on race/religion?
I do. I don't agree that Jews were the only ethnical group set for extermination and I provided you with wiki links to support my argument.
>even though the roma and slavs were killed for similar reasons (which is appalling) , it is still a racial genocide?
by the very definicion it is. all areas east of Germany were considered to be a living space for Germans and people living there were to be exterminated or turned into slave workforce.
en.wikipedia.org
>when 10% of all the causalities int he entire war come from one minority group in one area of the war, who were systematically rounded up enslaved and murdered, it is a bit significant.
I never denied it.
Gavin Martinez
>The original assumptions of the Nazi master plans, entailed the expulsion and mass extermination of around 85 percent (over 20 million) of the Polish citizens of Poland with the remaining 15 percent to be turned into slaves.
Jonathan Adams
actually they killed a lot of poles who they thought could not be "germanized" - not blond and blue eyed.
Noah Foster
You are hopeless, bud. Were the 180,000 people who died in the Warsaw Uprising all army? No, they weren't. Quit spewing that bilge.
Jose Reyes
We can't move on because YOU can't move on.
Why else did Germans work as rocket scientists for Nasser in the early 1960s? Why else did France support the Lebanese against Israel diplomatically?
Hunter Price
Nazis didn't plan total extermination of jews neither
en.wikipedia.org
they were sending Jews to safety, either to Israel or USA
Landon White
That doesn't mean anything, Imperial Russia also segregated jews in the Pale of settlement.
Luke Fisher
I guess thats why Polish people have the most Righteous Among the Nations titles of all nationalities.
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Ethan Myers
We on the other hand weren't as lucky as jews. We didn't have any lands apart from those which hitler wanted to germanize
Brody Stewart
so what is your point?
Christopher Gomez
Russians were not set out for total extermination.
Dominic Richardson
Nah, deporting 85% of Slavs to the Urals. Don't get it twisted.
Mason Reyes
What's with this anti-Poland shilling all of a sudden? The powers that be didn't give two shits about Polacks until they started stepping out of line with the immigration stuff.
You fucking shills stick out like a sore thumb here. Sage.
Mason Parker
No, they just enslaved them or expelled them to the East
Benjamin Bell
Then fucking leave us alone and let's not step on each other's toes again. Hasn't it been enough? Get out if you don't like it. You have a country you mentioned by name in your post.
Luke Brown
What are Sobidor, Treblinka and Belzec, other concentration camps?
Sebastian Martin
Lol they were living in the forests and couldn't help everyone against 2 forces on two fronts both outnumbering them... add to this fucking Ukrainians and jewish communist partisans
Andrew Stewart
What holocaust?
Oliver Anderson
No, but the Poles weren't being set out for extermination. The Jews who rose in the Warsaw Ghetto were.
John Bailey
that this statement
is not true
Wyatt Young
Well Britain signed something called White Paper which banned Jews from Palestine.
Grayson Edwards
>Slavs were set out for colonization, not extermination.
they wanted to expel or exterminate some 80% of Poles
>So see Poles massacring Jews after the Holocaust was over in 1946 and segregating Jews in the 1930s
Just like the Jews did and are doing with Palestinians?
Anyway, I see no point in milking history for eternity. Your view that all Europeans are responsible for the Holocaust has been pretty much settled thankfully in Poland, not by the government, but by civil society. You can blame the Poles for antisetmisim, racism, whatever, but to say that Poles should cease to exist because they carried out murders against minorities is simply unjust. Read about Hanukkah or Purim
Owen Reed
Only because Poland had the largest population of Jews.
Wyatt Reed
you know this was a great money making scheme for the Germans? and that once the war started they stopped it?
it may be true that the nazis did not in 1933 plan the death of all jews (even if they often said that would be desirable) but they did plan to kill millions when the circumstances permitted it, and some would say, demanded it, during the war.
you don't think that those gas chambers and huge crematoria got built by accident do you?
Carter Price
Hitler just wanted to germanize western poland and enslave the rest.
Kevin Reyes
Thing is we don't care anymore, okay? No matter what actually happened, nobody but the most spineless of cowardly lickspittles care about that actually happened during WWII. Fuck off already, seriously.
Matthew Jackson
Didn't you just ignore me? Did you not purge the remaining Jews in 1968? Did Germany not work for Nasser to destroy Israel in the early 1960s?
Jaxson Scott
see and explain that 22% figure then.
they killed them.
Joshua Hughes
No, killing sites.
Bentley Anderson
you really don't know?
read some history.
Jonathan Brown
2 forces?
Noah Baker
Where did you get this information? Mein Kampf? Or there is a german document revealing this?
Eli Bailey
Nobody cares. Leave.
Ryder Bell
Expel. That is the word.
Nicholas Taylor
Thanks.
Brandon Martinez
Israel-Palestine is two sided. Holocaust was one sided.
Jose Green
it also means that Polish people in majority were helping Jews, not working together with Nazis to kill them. honestly it appaling how you take helping Jewish people under occupation when as much as providing them with food was met with a death sentence for the whole family for granted.
Ethan Barnes
>The policy, first drafted in March 1939, was prepared by the British government unilaterally as a result of the failure of the Arab-Zionist London Conference.[4] The paper called for the establishment of a Jewish national home in an independent Palestinian state within 10 years, rejecting the idea of partitioning Palestine. It also limited Jewish immigration to 75,000 for 5 years, and ruled that further immigration was to be determined by the Arab majority (section II). Restrictions were put on the rights of Jews to buy land from Arabs (section III).
>Zionist groups in Palestine immediately rejected the White Paper and began a campaign of attacks on government property and Arab civilians which lasted for several months. On 18 May a Jewish general strike was called.[6]
Ian Rogers
Um...in 1946 they killed Jews. During PEACETIME.
Hudson Ross
>In response to the White Paper, the right-wing Zionist militant group Irgun began formulating plans for a rebellion to evict the British and establish an independent Jewish state. Ze'ev Jabotinsky, the founder of Irgun, who had been exiled from Palestine by the British, proposed a plan for a revolt to take place in October 1939, which he sent to the Irgun High Command in six coded letters. Under Jabotinsky's plan, he, together with other "illegals", would arrive in Palestine by boat, and the Irgun would help him and other passengers escape. Next, the Irgun would raid and occupy Government House, as well as other British centers of power in Palestine, raise the Jewish national flag, and hold them for at least 24 hours even at a heavy cost. Simultaneously, Zionist leaders in Western Europe and the United States would proclaim an independent Jewish state in Palestine, and would function as a government-in-exile. Irgun seriously considered carrying out the plan, but was concerned over the heavy losses it would doubtless incur. Irgun leader Avraham Stern (who would later break from Irgun to form Lehi), formed a plan for 40,000 armed Jewish fighters recruited in Europe to sail to Palestine and join the rebellion. The Polish government supported his plan, and began training Jews and setting aside weaponry for them. However, the outbreak of World War II in September 1939 quickly put an end to these plans.[24][25]
>After the outbreak of war in September 1939, the head of the Jewish Agency for Palestine David Ben-Gurion declared: 'We will fight the White Paper as if there is no war, and fight the war as if there is no White Paper.'[26]
tldr: it didn't ban jews from Palestine + it wasn't accepted by jews
Gabriel Lee
Yes, if Britain would have let millions of Jews go to Palestine there would be no Holocaust.
Ian Russell
en.wikipedia.org
>The Generalplan Ost (German pronunciation: [ɡenəˈʁaːlˌplaːn ˈɔst]; English: Master Plan for the East), abbreviated GPO, was the German government's plan for the genocide and ethnic cleansing on a vast scale, and colonization of Central and Eastern Europe by Germans. It was to be undertaken in territories occupied by Germany during World War II. The plan was partially realized during the war, resulting indirectly and directly in a very large number of deaths, but its full implementation was not considered practicable during the major military operations, and was prevented by Germany's defeat.[1][2]
>The plan entailed the enslavement, expulsion, and mass murder of most Slavic peoples (and substantial parts of the Baltic peoples, especially Lithuanians and Latgalians[3]) in Europe along with planned destruction of their nations, whom the 'Aryan' Nazis viewed as racially inferior.[4] The programme operational guidelines were based on the policy of Lebensraum designed by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in fulfilment of the Drang nach Osten (drive to the East) ideology of German expansionism. As such, it was intended to be a part of the New Order in Europe.
Levi Diaz
I'm telling you, goys, this is about the refugees. They want Poland to take them in. This explains the timing. They want a bombing in Warsaw. That's what this is all about.
Brody Collins
Nazis and Soviets
Joshua Gutierrez
>So see Poles massacring Jews after the Holocaust was over in 1946 and segregating Jews in the 1930s.
It has nothing to do with shoah. /thread
But yeah, look at poles during 30's as niggers, it was actions towads polish people to give them opportnity like be lawyer(for example in kraków there was 800 lawyers and only 60 of them was polish).
Aaron Hughes
>Expel. That is the word
Fine. Nobody really compares slavic casualties with the situation of the Jews, because it's obvious that Jews were in worse situation, particularly since 1941, but I don't think that millions of slavic deaths should be regarded as different from millions of jewish deaths, even if the percent was different
Jason Baker
"enslavement, expulsion"
Josiah Rodriguez
Soviets weren't an enemy of Poland during World War 2.
Jackson Johnson
there was no gas chambers or huge crematoria...
there was some crematoria to burn dead people so they don't spread some nasty disease, but they were for single people
during the war nazis let Rotschilds go free and it was exact proof nazis never planned to do anything about jews or world jewry. they just executed some european jewish peasants or small bussinessman who were europenized and didn't give a shit about zog or state israel
Gavin Gonzalez
Just one step away from the Holocaust.
Lincoln Johnson
there was no holocaust
milions went to usa
Michael Price
en.wikipedia.org
and even if strong evidence of the incident being a Soviet false flag is not true, it's still an incident. I am not denying that there were Polish people who killed or sold out Jews, I'm saying they were a fringe minority
Gabriel Hill
3 Million Poles out of a population of what, 40 million?
Cooper Thomas
"...and mass murder"
James Sanders
>Israel-Palestine is two sided
I don't get it. Don't there occur unjust atrocities from the jews? Irgun terrorist attacks?
If the polish attacks on the jews were a revenge for their cooperation with the Soviets, does it make it "two-sided"?
Charles Myers
Crazy Pole. Ever heard of Warsaw Ghetto?
Lucas Martin
...
Sebastian Walker
we had 36mln population before war and 22-24 mln after war
we lost 1/3 of our population
Cooper Price
????
en.wikipedia.org
mate, your history knowledge is shite
Isaiah Moore
Nonsense. America wouldn't take millions of Jews. #fakenews