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Why did the government want David koresh? What was the issue that had the ATF visiting the compound? Why did things go so out of hand?

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David and everyone else inside does something some government entity doesn't like, or won't do something the government wants, so they kill everyone. Simple as that.

Then they celebrate by fucking underage prostitutes / sex slaves and watching some good ol' CP. Moral of the story is don't be an ordinary citizen.

Why would they feel the need to use cs gas on little kids?

we could ask the kids but they all burned to death woops are bad right

The Feds murdered the Branch Davidians. The BATF rolled up FILMING their attack and they were outgunned. Koresh had offered to meet with the BATF when they were at his local gun shop. He went out for a morning job each day. No possible excuse to attack that place. Then the Feds lied about what happened and spent a ton of cash re-enacting it according to their story and were busted for that. Janet Reno, a former chem major, suggested the combination of chemicals which caused muscles to contract violently enough to snap bones. Disgraceful.

Well CS gas administered indoors for upwards of eight hours will kill children, so I can only imagine their intention was to kill the children.

To kill them? To be tacticool? To make them suffer? All three? Take your pick.

We're forced to consider that David Koresh, who predicted the siege years prior, was an actual agent of God and that Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, the BATF, and the FBI were agents of Satan who wanted to kill Koresh for espousing the truth.

That second part........ How do you know?

>yahoo.com/news/blogs/upshot/pentagon-declined-investigate-hundreds-purchases-child-pornography.html
You new around these parts, stranger?

Were the Branch Davidians /ourguys/? I always heard the (((media))) talk about what an awful guy David Koresh was, but as I've done some of my own research it seems he and his followers were unfairly demonized.

is that not what they do?

Them or their bus where jews.
They like spreading misery for it's own sake.

I haven't heard about the reenactment part. What was their plan? Create a new tape?

>bus?
boss

He fucked his wife's twelve year old sister when she was twelve but her dad agreed to it. That's worst thing he did.

Koresh and hisbpeople were all victims of MKultra/Satan Ritual Abuse/Trauma based mind control and they were going to go public and CIA/deepstate kews couldnt have that

>On 28 September 2000, Prof. Dr. Uwe Heinrich released a study commissioned by John C. Danforth, of the United States Office of Special Counsel, to investigate the use of CS by the FBI at the Branch Davidians' Mount Carmel compound. He said no human deaths had been reported, but concluded that the lethality of CS used would have been determined mainly by two factors: whether gas masks were used and whether the occupants were trapped in a room. He suggests that if no gas masks were used and the occupants were trapped, then, "there is a distinct possibility that this kind of CS exposure can significantly contribute to or even cause lethal effects".

This, and if anything good came from this and OKC it is the fact that the ATF's leash was yanked, and they know to never EVER pull that tacticool, guns ablazing bullshit ever again.

We don't know what really went on behind closed doors.

I don't want to take their side because for all I know he could've been raping the kids, but clearly the government fucked up big time. I can definitely be against the government

There weren't child sized gas masks at Mt. Carmel and the kids stayed in their rooms under wet blankets. Moral of the story: the kids probably died of asphyxiation before their bodies were consumed by the fire.

....tragic.

>you will never fight against a government siege
>you will never fire a machine gun from a helicopter into a complex

Which is the most patrician feel?

Cody Snodgres talks a little bit about his assumption that the op was to cover up gun running.

Koresh likely had all the information and contacts to blow the child trafficking networks up and have things actually change.

He fucked a twelve year old, but I don't think he would have raped his own children or any other children before menarche when he had a pretty neat harem going on.

they did it so we would stop talking about ruby ridge

Waco, Ruby Ridge, never forget, if you find a way to live without the state completely up you and your family's collective asses, you will be killed out of hand and state propaganda artists will forever immortalize you in Jewish moving pictures as a devil. Oh but give up those guns!!!

Maybe Koresh was right, the jews found out he was right, and they decided to kill him... again.

they needed a major bust to justify expanding their bloated budget. Fuck the ATF and fuck the FBI.

>No possible excuse to attack that place.
This really is the truth.
They could have picked Koresh up in town.
But NO.
>We'll show them how tough we are.
And they got the shit shot out of them.
They can't have that...so they burned the place down...after gassing everyone in there.
And they wonder why we want to keep the hi-cap semi-auto rifles.

The Waco TV series starts out in Ruby Ridge so jokes on them

Realistically though, even if you had a decent squad of men in full battle rattle how the fuck would you fight off the Waco siege?

I think every town should have a Mt. Carmel

>He fucked his wife's twelve year old sister when she was twelve but her dad agreed to it.
>for all I know he could've been raping the kids
And now we will never know.

This is "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" poor video quality, but I didn't spend very long searching for it.
It's worth a watch. Maybe there's a better copy somewhere else online.

youtube.com/watch?v=y9vqDgGtMVM

Koresh set the fires after dowsing the house in gasoline. Another failed cult leader. Nothing to see here.

Waco was dominating the news and hillary was pushing for her health care wich was one of her earliest "pay to play' schemes - she wanted waco handled quickly

Jonestown of TX

>dowsing
dousing*

Yes.

>even if you had a decent squad of men in full battle rattle how the fuck would you fight off the Waco siege?
That is a one way street.
It seems like if they corner you, they'll just burn you out.
And you be going up against people that train a lot.
One way street.

as the leftists grow more crazed we have no choice but civil war.

obviously our society has been almost completely destroyed.
in order to salvage anything we have to fight.

random acts of violence, hit and run, make the leftists more crazed, force the government to attempt to repeal more rights, causing more people to revolt

that is how we ought to play this. We need to make a guerilla culture in which people decide on their own when and where to make attacks according to a uniform doctrine

there will be chaos. there is no way around it. nature will take her due.

>Casually pouring gasoline all throughout a multistory compound and setting it alight while being inundated with eight hours of CS gas and hobbling around with an abdominal gunshot wound

artillery to hold them off until support from the outside comes

the pigs got BTFO so badly by mcveigh that they decided to surrender to bundy now instead of getting Oklahomaed 50 times

Unlikely.
But it is the Gov story, and we all know the Gov NEVER lies...right?
The CS gas they pumped into the complex is highly flammable.
They could have just picked up Koresh in town....but no.

They're kinda doing this already with the false flag shooting

...

MK Ultra.

>Why did the government want David koresh?

He was the leader of an odd group and they were collecting firearms. ATF was hoping that some of them were illegal because they wanted to stage a large raid to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public after Ruby Ridge. This was primarily because there was a growing movement to abolish the ATF altogether.

>What was the issue that had the ATF visiting the compound?

Some idiot agent opened fire on the Davidian's dog when they arrived. The other agents heard the gunshots and mistakenly believed the Davidians had opened fire, so they shot Koresh and a few of his followers.

>Why did things go so out of hand?

ATF was more concerned with being gung-ho cowboys than with properly searching a warrant. FBI took over after the raid and eventually sent in tanks and CS gas. FBI denied for years that they tossed any incendiary devices into the building. Then some documentary filmmaker gained access to the evidence locker and found a few pyrotechnic canisters mislabeled as "gun silencers." FBI was forced to reluctantly admit that the canisters were, in fact, used during the raid, but still denied setting the place on fire...

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>Why did the government want David koresh?
bATF didn't like how the BD's were following the law but doing so on a mass scale, so they set out to bust them.
Morons nearby reported what sounded like automatic gunfire because having 20 people shooting at the same time sounds like what?
bATF loses it's shit and get a murder boner over alleged auto fire.
>What was the issue that had the ATF visiting the compound?
They rolled up saw citizens holding rifles and opened fire on them because only the government can hold guns on citizen's private property.
>Why did things go so out of hand?
The bATF was super butthurt over the shootout so they started making up claims about child abuse. The FBI negotiators kept trying to talk to the children as if they were hostages held by terrorists rather than children with their parents. BD saw no reason to trust the government given the lies the bATF and FBI were turning out. Government figured the best solution was to burn them to death as fire covers up most of the evidence.

In the aftermath the FBI hid evidence, destroyed evidence, lost evidence and did everything they could to avoid a true account. Fuck both the FBI and the bAFT.

I was 8 when this happened, so I had no idea about it. What was the media coverage like? I can imagine what it would be like now.

You will never be allowed to say "no"

Do we know that?
We know Planned Parenthood lobbies to keep child marriage legal.

APOLOGIZE

>Koresh and hisbpeople were all victims of MKultra/Satan Ritual Abuse/Trauma based mind control and they were going to go public and CIA/deepstate kews couldnt have that

proofs?

If you understand what happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge you are severely mentally ill and/or retarded if you are not actively planning for armed rebellion against the government

I watch the compound burn live on TV.
It made my skin crawl knowing there were people inside.
MSM sided 100% with the gov version of events.
Kind'a like they did with everything Obama did.

It’s almost as if the government and the media go hand in hand
>b-b-but not based Tucker Carlson and Fox News!

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