California Hate Thread

theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/27/silicon-aa-cost-of-living-crisis-has-americas-highest-paid-feeling-poor

>I didn’t become a software engineer to be trying to make ends meet,” said a Twitter employee in his early 40s who earns a base salary of $160,000. It is, he added, a “pretty bad” income for raising a family in the Bay Area.

>One Apple employee was recently living in a Santa Cruz garage, using a compost bucket as a toilet. Another tech worker, enrolled in a coding bootcamp, described how he lived with 12 other engineers in a two-bedroom apartment rented via Airbnb. “It was $1,100 for a fucking bunk bed and five people in the same room. One guy was living in a closet, paying $1,400 for a ‘private room’.”

How long do you give the San Fagcisco Bay Area before it completely implodes?

*San Fagcisco Gay Area

they're living in closets just because these asshats would never live in the east bay because they think its full of right wing hicks when in actuality it's just full of slightly less extreme socialist cucks.

I love these stories. These people could live like kings if the moved an hour east. If these people are too dumb to figure this out they should starve.

don't want an hour long commute, would rather pay a 30k/yr rent

Is zoning that bad in San Francisco that new apartments are hard to build?

it's literally full of immigrants, full to bursting

Is that Eric clanton on the left?

i was just about to ask the same question

Good tech fags can die...joined the wrong industry , live in the wrong state.....no sypathy for cattle who tow the social norm in every aspect of their life....die in a fire

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fucking this

Work in an industry that can happen anywhere, all cram into the same area and pay $1,400 a month to live in a closet.

fuck you, the bay area is tight

Berkeley is technically East bay. You cannot get more pseudo-socialist than that

Lets get hyphy ...nah ...kys

Thank God Trump stopped shitlibs from being able to deduct their state income taxes from their federal income tax returns. It will help kill these shitholes faster, no longer being subsidized by red states.

>work for cutting edge tech company
>still can’t just work from home
I will never understand this. If someone can just get all their shit from home and be in meetings through Skype why do you make them come into the office? There is no reason for people to live in major cities anymore if they just do office jobs.

>salary of $160,000
Get outsourced you wanker. I need the money. Get fucked.

Holy shit, it is him!

Is that the bike lock attacker anifa professor in that picture?

I bet you a good 70% of that income goes straight into taxes and all that other shit, just to keep the fucking neomarxist crap state afloat

damn even the culture of uneducated urban youths of OVER 10 YEARS AGO is a bigger deal than most of the country's turnip festivals kek
someone that actually knows what's up
>because they think its full of right wing hicks
haha alternatively it's the scaaawy minorities
>Berkeley
is a lot smaller, less populated, and moderate than people think, stop being so scared of the boogeyman

>Be me
>Have Friend from California on internet
>Chatting
>Send shitty school shooting meme to him because it's untimely for the lulz
>pic related
>Crude laugh, since he ironically likes the shittyness of the meme
>"I've shot my dads SKS when I was younger a few times. It was fun and all, but what is he supposed to do with it? Hunting is heavily regulated even if some of the things are stupid like 3 round magazines... But nobody needs semi-auto weapons."
>Find out he likes Trump and the 2nd amendment, but is also a faggot about it at the same time
Fucking California...

>I will never understand this. If someone can just get all their shit from home and be in meetings through Skype why do you make them come into the office?

For funny money jew playhouse CIA shell corporations in California, you MUST show up to the playhouse office for feminism training with your new work family at the compound. If you work from home, you might have your own life and your own family and have independent, right-wing beliefs.

Does anyone have the psychotic Google Plus message boards from the James DaMore fallout? It was absolutely insane.

they have to sit together in giant open seating areas so they can all get the flu Anonymous

obviously

what are you some kind of idiot

The only three round limit is when hunting with shotguns.

most of the taxes in cali can be funneled through other channels and not end up on the income
>really just creating more jobs for accountants and lawyers
only poor people pay the 13% income tax

There's a lot more closet Trump supporters in this state than you realize.

Ex-Santa Cruz fag here and the answer is never unless the tech companies California thrives off of leave.

Californians will gladly pay or take out endless loans to be part of the cutting edge of modern 'American Culture'. College students at UCSC don't care that they will dig themselves into 100k+ worth of debt for a liberal arts degree. People don't care that they can't afford to live above their means as long as they can be part of the PC culture.

There is a level of delusion in the Bay Area that none of you who haven't lived here will ever understand. You will never get to experience first hand a true liberal arguing to the point of throwing blows how legalizing public defecation is a step forward for society, how men and women have no differences that aren't a cause of society(physical or otherwise) and how walking around in bondage gear or wearing pussy hats is empowering. You won't get to socialize with people who accessorize themselves with every apple product on the market while talking about how evil Corporations are and how they kill individuality.

Cali is past redemption at this point, nuking it would be the best option.

An hour long commute really isn't that bad, it takes me almost five hours to get from my front door to a grocery store.

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that's different, you don't go to the grocery store and back every day

plus "an hour away" is approx. 10 miles out in the bay area you realize

> 2h commute
> 200 days/yr
> $25/hour value of leisure time
> $10/hour driving cost
> $70/day true cost of 1h commute
> $70*200 = $14,000 per year
> $1k/mo extra rent is a bargain

I take it you don't work in stem

>feel poor
only urban retards

Why would anyone want to live in commiefornia?

what's wrong, shilling for Obama and Hillary not paying what it used to?

I live in Santa Clara and still in university atm. Once I get my masters and a couple of years of work experience, I'm moving out. I love how the coder cucks in the article think more social justice is the solution to the homelessness and increasing housing prices. My university makes me volunteer in a homeless shelter and I saw a homeless Chinese lady that's a "retired" engineer.

Not a lot of people realize just how badly these tech guys are getting fucked. There are so many H1-B and immigrants in Silicon Valley it isn't funny. The Tech Giants have done as good of a job as farmers in keeping wages low. 100K is shit for what they give these companies and if only Americans were eligible for these jobs they would make a lot more. Somehow most of them are still cucks. It is pathetic.

>buttblasted bay area fag struggles to explain why he loves his fag and scat infested shithole
just keep paying those marxist taxes you piece of trash

nice digits, it’s being colonised by China.

So they'd rather be miserable living with 12 people in 2 bedrooms than pay a little more. Got it.

interesting. but not really

What the fuck? That is Eric Clanton.

Industrial espionage.

Former google employee here. Wish I'd taken screens. Shit was absolutely wild. Working at google is some Stranger in a Strange Land shit.

How many ideas did they steal from you?

What % of the workers would you say overdosed on wokeness?

None, I destroyed it on my last day and didn't tell many people about it.

It's difficult to tell. People who think differently didn't speak up much before "the memo," and certainly don't after. It's like playing a party game trying to figure out who's sane.

google is a cia+mossad operation and they don't have any real competition

so are they subsidized or they just destroy any real competition as soon as it starts growing

>plus "an hour away" is approx. 10 miles out in the bay area you realize
I laughed, but then I got sad.

$2,200 starting for one bedroom apartment.

Not him. The ears are wrong.

Yes.

It takes about 10 years to get a project approved. People on the other side of the city can lodge objections and they get listened to just as much as the neighbours.

City taxes add over $100k to the price of building a new apartment. Socialist lobbyists and elected representatives complain that the developer doesn't include enough "Below market rate" apartments in the project.

It's a complete and utter clusterfuck. They even limit the amount of office space that can be built, to keep rents obscenely high for companies as well.

Wow, the captcha image was of the Great Ocean Highway.

Have you seen the price of rents and apartments in Oakland in the last few years?

They're skyrocketing because more people are realising it's a just a 15 minute ride on BART under the bay to get to downtown.

My ex has an apartment on Lake Meritt she bought for $300k a few years ago that's now worth close to a million. Crazy.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the economics, but how on Earth does it make sense to put all your companies in the same cramped area so much that rent costs 5 times as much as it should, all to hire a bunch of dumbfuck H1B pajeets to save money, all for a work that can 90% be done from home. It's like both not caring about costs and caring about costs so much you're willing to hire low quality "engineers".

Got a summer internship in San Francisco, looked into housing in the city. $1K/month would get me a bed in a room with 5 other people. Looked into North Oakland, $1K got a 200 sq foot furnished room with with my own parking space. The only way I've seen SF prices be reasonable are for townhouses, where 5 people can get their own rooms for ~$8K total.

It's still ridiculous compared to the rest of the country, but wages are too. Shit can't possibly last long.

You got the hot tip... look beyond SF for places within walking distance of BART stations.

True about Berkeley being smaller and less populated than people here think, I disagree about it being less moderate. The people there are pretty fucking nuts, any anyone who isn't is at least a sympathizer.

The buses aren't bad either especially if you're getting on in East Bay in the morning. Also they serve the more rural areas, which are genuinely pretty nice to live in.

This. Also current where did you escape to?
t. Current Cali resident

This

It used to make sense to agregate in the same area back in the 80s and early 90s because tech autists knew each other and could exchange info and ideas and secretly spy on each other. But ever since internet exploded and autistic social outcasts got replaced with unapologetic faggots and pajeets it's all about being part of the "cool" club.

I'm staying for family reasons, otherwise most people in California never leave the state. They don't know it's different in other areas. I still remember when I first left, I've wanted to leave and never come back ever since. This place really is like a giant cult in some ways

usually I bemoan the inability to recognize faces which Sup Forums has but this time it really does look like him tho
like uncannily so

I know the ears don't match but still, wtf

>let's fight the 1%, comrades!
>tfw you're actually the 1%
Fucking hypocrites

It doesn't, Silicone Valley is dying and new tech hubs are emerging all over the country. Austin Texas, Seattle Washington, Lincoln Nebraska, Missoula Montana etc Companies, middle class are fleeing the state on mass. The rich stayed because they're normally to invested, but the fires have given many of them a reason to finally pack up and leave too. The governor Jerry Brown has been warning about coming hardship and will be getting out soon. He said cutting state employee pension plans is going to be necessary in the future. State assembly members have openly said our state economy will probably collapse by 2020. Meanwhile the old style Democrats are being pushed out for not being progressive enough for Democrats that want more spending, more taxes, more gibs. This entire state is fucked beyond repair

I make 6 figures in 'Chilecon Valley' as a gringo. Imagine the disposable income...
Wise up gringos, move south and own a dozen houses.
USA is a joke.

kek, I'm laughing because in 2012 I told some literal mutt who bought a house there that maybe the whole area would go the way of Detroit within 30 years. I guess I could have just said 15.

>le country bumpkins lel
I see you're back again with the same old tired bait. Can you articulate anything other than regurgitating bullshit from Karl Marx?

>struggling to live on 160k USD
nigga I am comfortable on 56k AUD. get picky, ride a bicycle to and from work, and stop wasting money on an apartment that, while it may be closer to work, is overpriced and underequipped. you are being jewed, and you love it.

Do you know what the value of his house has done since 2012? Bay area housing has gone up 10% since the beginning of 2018 alone.


I work in the bay area but live in a van, which I then drive home to Sacramento every weekend. I only made $110k last year which is poverty level according to the HUD.

yeah sure, but eventually it will crash once the Silicon Valley meme dies and the east bay niggers stay.

You get a pass since you don't know how bad things are here. There is nowhere within an hour (no traffic) commute that is affordable. I work with guys that drive 2 hours home every day and even where they live prices are going up.

Kek.

>SEIG HEIL!

and what do they do with the extra money they have on the side from their six figure salary? I hope they are putting it away so that they can in the future be able to move away from the shit heap and own a parcel of land in the wilderness or something. instead of pissing it away in nightclubs and fundraisers.

California is really good at making sure you don't have extra salary. Tons of shit you wouldn't even think of. Especially for these guys. For example, they cross the toll bridge twice every day, so they must pay SF $12/day for the privlige of working in that city. Well that may not sound like much but $12 is what most people make for an entire hour's work after taxes and everything. Plus fuel which has tons of taxes in it. Plus property tax. Plus income tax. Plus sales tax.

You get the idea.

and if you ride a bicycle, do you have to pay this toll? if they do this they don't have to pay for fuel either. while you're renting you don't have to pay property tax, income tax I can understand, but everyone pays sales tax, and you can factor it into every purchase anyway, still doesn't make it any different for the price of regular everyday purchases at supermarkets.

The grocery stores have to pay those same ridiculous taxes, and pay the taxes for the fuel the delivery guys spend getting to the store, and the tolls they pay, and on and on.
So while you say it's a regular everyday purchase, we're talking about a 50% markup compared to the sane parts of America, minimum

I don't think riding a bicycle the 50 miles required to get outside of the bay area's pricing bubble is a reasonable alternative. Most of these guys live in Vacaville or Stocton which I believe are both about 75 miles.

get fucked too
it's my turn to get the jobs now

>“For an immigrant family with two kids, moving out of a sanctuary city like San Francisco means you could get deported.”

These retards gave the reason why there is a housing shortage, and they don't even realize it

Fucking soyboys rather live in an expensive dump than kick out all the illegals taking up the cheap rent

Blackpill and witnessed.

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That's bikelockguy. Why is he in a pic of homeless people in SanFran?

He's showing he's "down with the proletariat" by being photographed with the 1600 dollar bike his daddy bought him next to a homeless dude.

Heavily converged company. Leftist leadership. Left wing people don't like to work, like to project their own flaws onto others, and need people around to denounce in order to virtue signal and pretend to themselves they are working hard.

So they just Jew you?

Trips of truth

It's cheap for the company, even if it's expensive to the employees. There's usually good supportive infrastructure like fast internet, banking, restaurants, and sometimes subsidized taxes or costs to operate.

Yes and this hellhole is their model for the rest of the country. Seattle, Austin, Denver, ect are following this plan.

In a world with somewhere in the ballpark of 7.5 billion people, sometimes some of those people have similar appearances.

It's a fucking shocker, I know.

Has it been said yet that the man on the left is the bike lock assault guy?

You can FEEL poor on any income.

The fact is that you're NOT poor. Fucking learn to budget.

Fucking tall poppies. I wish I had a lawn mower.

So for a savings of 2k/year using your retard logic (it's actually a loss of 8k) it's worth sacrificing all quality of life? Do you realize they make 100k+?

>hurr lrn2budget when you can't find a studio apartment for less than $3k/month and your 2-hour commute costs you $20

Move.

This shit is real. I’m a software enginner living in California and can’t afford to buy shit. Moving to Idaho with my Asian wife and Hapa son.

The fruits of liberalism and Marxism in democrat US cities

I’m not worried about them. They’ll just move to Texas like they always do and buy up all the housing and then rent them out. Making it even more expensive to get housing here and slowly turning our districts Blue. Xd