Can I get Sup Forums to talk about Tokyo Mew Mew? A few years ago I lost a bet and had to watch the whole thing. Now that time has passed, I'm strongly considering rewatching it, almost entirely on the basis that I can't fucking understand why it has a fanbase, or anyone who'd recommend it. At the time of watching, I saw nothing of value in the entire anime, like not one single thing.
What did I miss Sup Forums? Does the show have any fans here?
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It's literally a show and a manga for little girls. My sister loved it but she wasn't even 10 years old.
But what was the appeal of it? I only need to point you to /mlp/ to prove that something being a show for little girls isn't sufficient to make it irredeemably bad.
Anime >>>>>>> Manga
You cannot prove me wrong
All I know in that regard is that the sequel manga sucked so hard that the only time that people will acknowledge its existence is when they're telling you not to read it. What made the anime so much better than the manga?
Well, the manga is too much Ichigo-centric, whereas in the anime the other girls had more spotlight
Was there even anything good about the other girls?
Most people can read the entire manga faster than they can watch the entire anime, making the manga better because it doesn't prolong the pain as much as the anime does.
Why don't you tell us what you hated?
It was made for kids, and it had cute kemonomimi girls in cute costumes.
Thus it made the kids into otakus.
It's been a few years, but here's what I remember.
1) Aside from the odd laugh that I got from the show's humour, I remember there just being nothing of value. That is, the show was at best painfully mediocre.
2) There was a cubic shittonne of monster of the week bullshit. In of itself I suppose that it's not so bad, but it hurts a bit after 20 or so episodes of it.
3) Due to #2, the story rarely, if ever progressed.
4) The stock footage was disgustingly overused.
I think that's it, as a I say, it's been quite a few years.
>Thus it made the kids into otakus.
Did anyone actually like the show that much?
You want to re-watch a 50 episode cartoon for little girls that you didn't like in order to confirm that you didn't like it? I don't understand.
I don't think it was very good. Some elements like the villains had some promise, but mostly it jus fell kind of flat.
Yes! Precure 5 stole a lot of elements from Mew Mew and did them better.
Well my twelve-year-old penis did.
Above all else, it's down to the fact that I can barely remember anything about the show, and that I can't believe that it sucked as much as I remember it sucking.
Zakuro was best girl
The sheer stupidity of the series was good.
>4) The stock footage was disgustingly overused.
The transformations were hot, especially Mint's.
I can honestly say that I remember nothing about her.
Link? Gif? Webm?
That's a really terrible reason to re-watch a show you hate. Why not watch things you like? You might enjoy it.
The absolute worst magical girl costume designs, Ichigo is the only one who's design had more than 5 minutes of effort put in and it's still just solid pink
>leotards
>garters
>exposed shoulders
What are you, a kid?
As mediocre as this show was, I really miss mahou shoujo that were aimed at kids. They don't really exist anymore except Precure
There's Rilu Rilu Fairilu.
All I know about Tokyo Mew Mew is that it inspired a whole host of MS Paint Fanime series, and a goofy net novel on DeviantArt about dudes getting turned in to magical nekomimi girls.
It was apparently really popular with packs of young women, I guess because it was so cutesy? Or maybe it filled the void that Sailor Moon left? Or maybe it was Sailor Moon for a new generation of young girls (though it didn't seem to have the same appeal SM did to young boy going through puberty).
>though it didn't seem to have the same appeal SM did to young boy going through puberty
Speak for yourself old man, this show shaped my fetish for magical girls and cat ears.
I grew up with Sailor Moon, but I'm more partial to frilly, fluffier MG designs nowadays I'm not even sure I can say "it's my fetish", but it surely is an aesthetic that I really like. Something about that fluff gets me going. [Spoiler]Which is subsequently ruined when faggot porn artists remove their clothing[/spoiler]
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I feel ya
Isn't that why we have /e/?
What, to feel other anons?
Fuck it, I'm gonna say yes.
True, but it's hard to silence that voice in my head.
This show doesn't make sense for olders... And yeah, the episode that I like is about lettuce's love and why Ichigo's father fight Aoyama while her mother tells Ichigo why her father is so tiresome about her daughter dating in her thirteen... Oh well, I watched this when I was 16 back in 2005~2006
I rewatched it few years but it is not the same... Better watch sailor Moon.
>45 seconds of stock footage per character
Fuck me, no wonder that I hated the show.
Be sure to never watch God Mars.
How is Precure anyway?
What did you like/dislike about the show? I really can't remember much about it.
I enjoyed it a lot when I was 10 years old, Ichigo x Aoyama was the shittiest ship though
>I enjoyed it a lot when I was 10 years old
Why?
Because retarded kids like colorful, mindless things
Varies from season to season. Some of them are really good if you like that kind of thing (which I do). But if a monster fight full of stock footage every week is going to put you off, don't bother.
Was there even anything else that could be shipped?
Ichigo x Kisshu or Mint x Zakuro, I guess? Or bishie x bishie for fujos.
But shippers will pick anyone really.
Lettuce x Shirogane
It show turned one of the chads at my school into an otaku when it was on TV.
It's 100% generic mahou shoujo anime made by SM's clichés. Which doesn't make it bad. I marathoned it in full about a year ago, found it fun and exciting.
>found it fun and exciting.
But why?
I don't remember Lettuce doing anything really. I think she turned into a mermaid one time.
Was there some sort of thing between Pudding and one of the generals?
Yeah there was.
Fuck this is the most redundant thread I've seen all week.
"I liked/disliked it but idk it's been years idk"
Aside from Ichigo, I don't remember any of the Mews doing anything.
I was considering watching an older magical girl show recently. Specifically Wedding Peach, mainly out of curiosity as to whether it was as much of a SM clone as it was hyped up to be. Seeing this thread reminded me of that
I can't really say much about TMM though, other than I'm not a big fan of the designs other than Strawberry's. Despite it having a fanbase, I don't hear much about the show other than some shipping and the manga sequel being bad.
I kind of developed a thing for kemonomimi especially catgirls after watching that.
Grew up on this and loved it as a kid. Now that I'm older, it really is just the most cookie cutter mahou shoujo ever. This, along with Mermaid Melody, should be seen as how to make the blandest and uninspiring magical girls.
> This, along with Mermaid Melody, should be seen as how to make the blandest and uninspiring magical girls.
I just got a nostalgia bomb about a show I've never even watched. I do find it funn how much girly concepts they crammed in to the design.
> They're magical girls!
> But that's not all, they're also MERMAIDS!
> But we're not done yet, they're POP SINGERS too!
I wonder if they went deeper and found a way to include a unicorn in all this.
Mint was kind of bitchy to Ichigo. They were probably going for a Moon/Mars thing, but it wasn't very good. She also wanted to fuck Zakuro.
Pudding had her brothers and circus performing. And being basically mental.
Zakuro was the cool aloof oneesan. She made no doing anything look good.
Lettuce had glasses, i guess.
>Mermaid Melody
Pretty sure this was official art.
>Pretty sure this was official art.
It was. If anything was going for it, it was the wonderful bodies the artist drew for the girls. I just wish their faces were better.
Dear god.
There was a sort of specific antagonism, or being a "designated rival" between Pudding and small general, and between Zakuro and big general but it's not really pronounced and didn't lead to anything explicitly romantic, unlike with Quiche, who went full yandere for Ichigo.
> Those faces
>She also wanted to fuck Zakuro.
Werid, I actually vaguely remember this. Fuck you user, you might've just convinced me to rewatch..
>Pudding had her brothers and circus performing. And being basically mental.
I remember that being her backstory, but I don't recall anything else.
>I remember that being her backstory, but I don't recall anything else.
Typical I have a lot of siblings but I work hard to care for them because my parents are off dicking around somewhere.
Mint also had an episode about her rival in ojou-sama-ness, where she slapped her and told her to stay put while Mint goes and saves everyone
The bodies aren't bad but those fucking faces
I wonder, is the consensus in this thread that Tokyo Mew Mew is so painfully generic that it's no wonder that we can't remember any of it?
I have to admit, if that is the case, it's baffling. In any other genre, I've never seen a work so generic that those who have watched it couldn't remember anything about it.
I was obsessed with the show, I got all of the volumes and watched the show. I do remember all of it, but it is bland as hell. Everything about it is so typical and expected. There's nothing original about it, the story is basic, and I cannot think of a real good reason to watch it. I do love all the girls though.
Only read the manga. Should I bother with the anime? It was okay but not good. Art was kind of nice sometimes but it was a poor man's Arina Tanemura. Only thing I liked was the cafe part. Should be a comfy manga about cute girls working in a cute cafe with a grumpy male manager and a sweet oniisan manager and some punk kid who tries to cherry bomb the place all the time.
Can you go in to detail about what was good/bad about it? I'm still finding myself thinking "I remember nothing about this show, and therefore I should rewatch it".
I liked the fact that she had to kiss random animals and people to turn into a cat and back into a human
that seemed sorta original
probably not
Is it a cliche to transform into something when kissu?
>Is it a cliche to transform into something when kissu?
Dude, frogs.
Funnily enough, the times where Ichigo was turned in to a cat are just about the only things that I do remember about the show.
Oh
the only moment i remember was the one where she raped some random bird
Ichigo is a menace to society
Go on?
Art is worse in the anime, has more fillers, and is longer to go through. Go ahead if you wanna see cute girls voiced and having more mannerisms.
Good:
>cute characters
>believable reasons to be friends
>villains have more emotion than just being evil
>since it's a shoujo series, every has to have a pairing but here it's at least belivable
>there is a yuri end for Mint and Zakuro, i think?
>great music
Bad:
>typical bland tuxedo mask male lead
>try to throw you off with multiple male pairings but the worse one wins
>lame puppet character gaining true purpose bullcrap
>romance is utter shit too
>every angle that happens has an obvious endpoint
>all 5 characters can kind be summarised as an archetype
>fights are yawn
>monster of the week stuff gets boring
There's just nothing to take out of TMM. There's no lesson, no fond memories, no scenes or moments that are inspiring. Airhead sees a mysterious thing, she gains powers, others gain powers, they fight bad guy, it gets harder, they get an ally, villain plot twist that was obvious, friendship and love conquers all, fin.
How's the anime? The manga was one of my first and I have the anime on my backlog.
Go watch episode one and report back. We'll wait.
>Good
Honestly, most of that isn't so much as a good point for a magical girl show as it is part of the bare minimum.
>lame puppet character gaining true purpose bullcrap
Who was that?
>There's just nothing to take out of TMM. There's no lesson, no fond memories, no scenes or moments that are inspiring. Airhead sees a mysterious thing, she gains powers, others gain powers, they fight bad guy, it gets harder, they get an ally, villain plot twist that was obvious, friendship and love conquers all, fin.
Matches my memories perfectly. Thanks user, you've probably just convinced me to not rewatch it. Now if only I could find someone to do the same for Shugo Chara!
>Who was that?
Misaya. He was the generic perfect guy who was actually the evil seed to destroy the world but he didn't wanna do that.
>Now if only I could find someone to do the same for Shugo Chara!
Amu's mai waifu, so I have a lot of reasons to rewatch the show constantly. Not saying it's particularly amazing though.
> Now if only I could find someone to do the same for Shugo Chara!
At the very least, from my ignorant point of view, Shugo Chara seems much less generic than TMM is. What's gotten you in to re watching old girls shows anyway? Did you just want a humongous show to watch? Your mental palette wants something about girls with super powers? Raw curiosity?
Typical mahou shoujo stuff, like funny attack names, silly drama, girls turning into protected species (a porpoise? really?) etc.
>Misaya. He was the generic perfect guy
Weird, I remember that.
>who was actually the evil seed to destroy the world but he didn't wanna do that.
But I don't remember that. I just remember him protecting his waifu.
>Not saying it's particularly amazing though.
To my memory, Shugo Chara kept me hooked because it was always just one step away from becoming good e.g. they could've let Sue die in order to make The Embyro while Doki was only good for its characters (e.g. that comedy girl was awesome). As everything else related to the show however, my memories of it are nearly identical to my memories of Tokyo Mew Mew, i.e. it seems to have been such a generic monster of the week that I can barely remember any of it.
>At the very least, from my ignorant point of view, Shugo Chara seems much less generic than TMM is.
I agree. Baring Party, Chara was much better than Mew Mew.
>What's gotten you in to re watching old girls shows anyway? Did you just want a humongous show to watch? Your mental palette wants something about girls with super powers? Raw curiosity?
Long story short is that I lost a bet and had to watch both of them, although to be honest I've been tempted to make a similar thread about Mai Hime and Mai Otome, because I also seem to remember almost nothing about them. Although that may be down to them having much fewer episodes than Chara or Mew Mew.
>But I don't remember that. I just remember him protecting his waifu.
He was the tuxedo mask but also had the evil alien gene thing inside of him. Eventually that part of him emerged but he fought it.
>e.g. they could've let Sue die in order to make The Embyro
No. What the hell dude?
> it seems to have been such a generic monster of the week that I can barely remember any of it.
They don't do this much in the manga. Manga is a lot more on character interactions. Anime's biggest advantage is it had more Amu.
I like Shugo Chara a lot more than Tokyo Mew Mew, but both are dear to me. They're not Princess Tutu or Madoka, but they have their own charm.
Oh, and I also remember little to nothing about Card Captor Sakura, although that may be down to the fact that it was the first anime that I watched in Japanese and it was probably more than a decade ago.
>>e.g. they could've let Sue die in order to make The Embyro
>No. What the hell dude?
It would've made perfect sense. Everyone wanted The Embyro and that was the only way that anyone had any idea how to get it. If it truly has the value to grant wishes than it would be a worthwhile trade. Heck, they could've just wished for 20 more Sues and made 19 Embyros, meaning that they'd have lost nothing.
Or at least that would've worked until we learned 70 episodes later than The Embyro doesn't fucking grant wishes.
I honestly think that's pretty reasonable. TV Anime were huge undertakings then, it's hard to remember it all. I watched through all of Macross 7, Space Runaway Ideon, and Turn A Gundam, and I can only vaguely remember the first two. The second I only remember more because I re watched it.
>Or at least that would've worked until we learned 70 episodes later than The Embyro doesn't fucking grant wishes.
That honestly was a dumb part of Shugo Chara. It's hilarious if you consider the Principal was just lying to everyone throughout the whole series.
>It would've made perfect sense. Everyone wanted The Embyro and that was the only way that anyone had any idea how to get it. If it truly has the value to grant wishes than it would be a worthwhile trade. Heck, they could've just wished for 20 more Sues and made 19 Embyros, meaning that they'd have lost nothing.
I like my characters having humanity, thank you.
Shugo Chara could have been great if they restricted it to 26 episodes or maybe 50. The further went the worse it got.
But how else am I gonna fill my Amu folder with screenshots if there are less episodes?
By playing SlaveMaker 3 and lewding her.
By adding more animation frames.
Those are not anime screenshots.
I literally did that sometimes but only if the frames are significantly different.
Pretty much the only reason I watched it
Mint and her brother.
26 including Doki? Seems like too few.
Is Mermaid Melody really not worth watching? I was considering watching it for the song battling thing, which is something I love but have only seen in Symohogear and Rainbow Rocks, and I was thinking maybe Mermaid Melody could give me more of that. But if it just sucks, I won't bother.
>song battling
It's just them singing a song, which defeats the enemy. There is no fighting in Mermaid Melody. I wouldn't say it sucks though, it something to watch if you're really into magical girls and shoujo tropes.
>Rainbow Rocks
Dude, that scene was a parody of Scott Pilgrim Vs The World. You should watch that instead.
Look at those fucking Down syndrome faces.