Let's pretend it's 2014 and Obama says this. What happens next?

Let's pretend it's 2014 and Obama says this. What happens next?

More gun sales.

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The context doesn't help at all

Next thing you know you're crazy, and can't have a gun.
Oh and by the way, isn't Trump's mental health questionable, according to Dems?

Huge uproar from the GOP. Lots of Constitution waving and posturing for gun/2nd amendment advocate votes. Obama called a socialist and comparisons made to the rise of the Nazis. Tin foil hats start going on about FEMA camps built to keep people in and how weird agencies like the post office are buying a ton of ammunition. But because Trump said it there's a lot of mental gymnastics going on and it's really entertaining. Just a little worrying.

based magapede

>comparisons made to the rise of the Nazis.
It's not like anyone ever did that with Trump...

Yes. I edited from using "tired ass comparisons" because of that. But I'm not sure what pointing that out has to do with the hypothetical situation of what if Obama said "take the guns first, due process second."

This only applies to crazy people. Like Gun nuts and 4chaners!

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I think it would feel completely different given Obama's legal background and career as a politician. It would come across as him specifically trying to encroach on the bill of rights. With Trump, a businessman, it feels like he's spitballing in a boardroom and I wouldn't expect a serious political push to come out of it.

It's really fun to watch the left now do that sort of shit about Trump. And neither side realizing how absolutely stupid they can get about politics.

>With Trump, a businessman, it feels like he's spitballing in a boardroom and I wouldn't expect a serious political push to come out of it.

So when Trump says it, it's meaningless because Trump just doesn't know any better?

Bomp coz pol/ BTFO

So long story, short: It's ok when Trump lies because politician lie, but business men always do the right thing in the end.

Why the fuck does anyone believe this?

Not meaningless, but less meaningful, yeah. Most politicians have spent their lives in careers where they have to be very meticulous, and if Obama said it you would expect that it was very much ideological. Trump's background is completely different, results matter more than words or ideology, so I wouldn't say his words carry the same weight. I think you probably already know this yourself, you know it wouldn't be the same coming from Obama, and you'd have to be pretty dense to take anything Trump says at face value.

Nope.

Was Hilary /Our Girl/ all along?

I'm not a huge Trump fan but yes it does. He was talking about an individual that was shooting animals and someone that had the police called on him several times for physically abusing family. The FBI and local police knew this was going on and failed to act.

>I think you probably already know this yourself, you know it wouldn't be the same coming from Obama, and you'd have to be pretty dense to take anything Trump says at face value.

I've known this since before Trump was elected, and I wish cons understood the consequences of that. What if another 9/11 type attack happens, and Trump says "This is the country we should invade?" Would you send your kid to die on Trump's word?

So how do you know what Trump's ideology is? He can just say anything and you'll just choose whether or not you believe him? The POTUS can't do that. His words have the power to shift markets and cause civil unrest.

First of all, that's going to have to go through congress. More importantly, if we agree that his words are fickle then what matters is the actual intention behind them. If you understand his intention then that's what you would be disagreeing with, and that's appropriate, but to challenge his words when you're aware that they're not in and of themselves that meaningful is a pointless distraction and maybe an attempt to gain easy points. I say this because people seem to take his words literally only when it's convenient and otherwise completely discard them.

You would hope that as an intelligent person you could make your own analysis and get to the meat of what he's saying, then argue against that, but I guess when you don't like the guy you just wouldn't bother since it's way easier to attack the words.