This is what the nigger corporate-government complex does to you. you want to break free of your perpetual slavery...

this is what the nigger corporate-government complex does to you. you want to break free of your perpetual slavery? you want to reject the mindless consumerism that's brainwashed into you through million dollar TV ads? fuck you, nigger. you're going to buy. you're going to consume. you're going to partake and indulge in gross excesses.

if you try to live sustainably, or debt free, or FREE in any way, we're going to come along and FUCK you. capitalism-tards are stupid because they think more corporations will fix the problem. communist and socialist-tards are even stupider because they think more government will magically fix the problem when OBVIOUSLY government is the entity writting the corrupt laws that allow the corporatocracy in the first place.

the only thing to do is recognize that people need to be free. that government is inherently evil and that it's propping up the corporate slave state. libertarianism, SERIOUS GENUINE INTELLIGENT LIBERTARIANISM is the only way forward. END CORPORATE WELFARE. CORPORATE WELFARE IS LITERALLY SOCIALISM. THE WEALTH JUST ISNT GETTING DISTRIBUTED WHERE YOU WANT IT TO. LAWS THAT BAN TINY HOMES ARE LITERALLY A SNEAKY FORM OF CORPORATE WELFARE, BECAUSE THEY MAKE MORE SPENDING COMPULSORY.

this is the corporate-government complex. neither "side" has a fully sufficient answer for it, but especially not the government-loving leftyniggers, just to be clear.

one of the major reasons they're able to get away with this shit is because so many Sup Forumsniggers will defend this. assbags DEFEND their fucking oppressors and captors. you need to wake up and be INTELLIGENT. learn the GAME being played on you. CORPORATE WELFARE is the ultimate cause of your ills and it's not going to be fixed by either MORE government or MORE corporations.

>thefreethoughtproject.com/tiny-homes-banned-criminalize/

BTW, trumpfag is coming for your guns, niggers. he's a phonynigger.

Other urls found in this thread:

snopes.com/hud-tiny-homes-ban/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Bump for truth

and the tax cuts? yeah, they will help the economy, technically. but guess what htey cut out of the final bill? all of the provisions for small businesses. it's already almost impossible for small businesses to compete with corporations. now it's going to be even harder. as a result of the tax cuts, a few years from now, you're going to see the dissolution of small businesses and proprietorships, leaving everyone enslaved to the corporate slave state. fucking pathetic what this world has become.

and we won't have our guns either because of the fucking trumpnigger.

>squatting wherever you want in a shitbox isn't freely welcomed
>TYRANNY
fuck off holden

Could be a good thread if OP wasn't so autistic

Fake news from almost 2 years ago confirmed fake as people still make tiny homes.

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. it's land they own you god damn stupid nigger, and houses that live up to all of the existing written codes. this is EXACTLY what i'm talking about. fucking POS rotten bitch. i seriously hope people like you fucking die.

wtf? no faggot. you obviously didn't read the article. laws are getting passed in more and more places to make these sustainable homes illegal, and it's happening for no other reason than to force people to spend more money. good god. you fucking propagandist piece of shit.

First of all, the article is from November of 2016, before Trump.

The laws against tiny houses are usually laws to prevent shanty towns of poor people living in shacks and shitty conditions. And they are legal outside of cities where shanty towns aren't a concern.

Also, if you read your own article

>Granted, some cities are actually encouraging tiny homes as a means of freedom or as a solution to homelessness, as in Detroit, MI.

Literally a cuck shed. Nothing wrong with owning a massive amount of land and plopping on of these out back or in the woods - but fucking hell. To live in? Queer plebbit shit I'm glad these houses are banned.

You dumb nigger, they're not banning "tiny homes", they're holding them to local building codes for stationary domiciles.

This means minimum sq footage requirement, and the ability to hook into utility services.

If they're on wheels, they don't fall under housing code, and are instead treated as RVs.

Usually, these homes fall under the problem of having no access to fresh water and no means to put wastewater back into the system.

Nobody bans these house types specifically.
Also, just because you're hooked up doesn't mean you need to pay for the service.

Ok.
So why dont you show me multiple reputable news organizations to back this claim.
Stop pushing fake news.

>the HOA in my neighborhood is an arm of Mussolini

>First of all, the article is from November of 2016, before Trump.
wait a minute. are you fucking serious right now? you think trump is a libertarian type who is going to do something about this trend??? hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
yeah the article is from two years ago, but there's not much that's changed. the same shit is still happening, do your own research.
>some cities encouraging
i didn't say they weren't you propagandist faggot. they encourage them when they have huge homelessness issues, for obvious pressing reasons. absent that though, they're passing laws to restrict them in many areas. the point is government overreach, dont you fucking get it? you people MAKE EXCUSES AND MAKE EXCUSES AND MAKE EXCUSES and then sit around and can't figure out why you got fucked for your whole life. fucking dumb man. it's just fucking stupid. "oh no, nothing is happening, hur durrrr, there's no slippery slope".

understand that there is NO conceivable valid reason for these houses to be illegal ANYWHERE in the USA and it should PISS YOU OFF because this is clear government overreach. clear corruption. clear example of the laws that literally cause and force your own enslavement. but yet you love yoru fucking slavemasters, you pathetic bitch.

>I'm glad these houses are banned.
>i'm glad my government passes unnecessary and restrictive laws, for obviously corrupt reasons, and forces me to be their consumerist slave, regardless of what decisions i might want to make on my own. Making my own decisions is bad. Being self-determinate is bad. I need government to come and ensure that I live exactly the way they want me to.

fucking kill yourself you fag ugly bitch.

no, the article i provided literally links to multiple local affiliates and local news sources reporting on the code changes. national news outlets obviously don't cover local changing in building codes, you fucking moron.

>Why can't the fucking government let me live the way I want to?
>Dude you can still live the way you want to, you just need to fulfill all the arbitrary bullshit the government comes up with. Therefore when all is said and done your housing choice isn't as economically appealing as it once was! What's not to get you fucking cuck?

idiot. you're claiming that nobody is "banning tiny houses specifically" by banning houses under a minimum square footage for arbitrary reasons. think about that, you fucking mouthbreathing mong. i mean really, seriously, just take a serious look at that comment and think about it, please. for the sake of the universe, you god damn evil cunt.

>land of the free
Can someone explain to me why is the USA government against self sustainable electricity?
Why can't you have solar panels in your house?

Actually most places that ban tiny homes specifically ban tiny homes on wheels.

In most areas, if you have a vacant plot of land you can legally plop a legal house on, you could plop a code compliant tiny house on, if you set it on a foundation.

Let's not forget that tiny houses on wheels are essentially RVs and many are even taxed and insured as RVs. They look like houses, they're vastly more efficient than RVs, but the idea is the same.

What towns and cities are really worried about is people buying these things and putting them in their backyards and renting them out. Every single backyard in San Francisco would have multiple of these things. So they just outright ban them.

Tiny houses are in some ways a scam.

If you want a tiny house professionally made it will cost $60K to $90K. And that's for an 8'6" x 24' tiny house on wheels.

Compare that to manufactured homes. A high quality 30x40 manufactured home with all the fittings will cost you $80K or so.

But ok, let's say you bought a lot in a cute town and wanted to put your $80K tiny house on wheels on a foundation and make it totally code compliant. Just hooking up to water and sewage costs $23K in my town. That's just not realistic. No one is going to buy a $50K / $100K town lot, pay $23K for water and sewer hookups, then plop a $80K tiny house on wheels on it.

Furthermore, any tiny house on wheels is welcome in any RV park or KOA RV campground because it's a fucking RV and not a "tiny house".

Whenever you read these articles just substitute "camper trailer" for "tiny house".

>City bans plopping camper trailers for permanent living in town backyards.

No. Shit.

Dam. You were so close there. Up until the libertarian part.

Actualy the only way forward is national socialism.

It is the only system that rejects the lies of communism AND the slavery of capitalism.

Research the german post-war economic miracle. Under Hitler's system, Germany went from the poorest, most degenerate nation in Western Europe to the richest, most technologically advanced, most cultured, happiest nation in the world!
For too few years Germany bloomed, until Capitalists and Communists united to destroy the feared rival system.

I understand the frustration, but...

Most of these people in tiny homes are single Whites or childless White couples.

Meanwhile, niggers and spics are shitting baby goblins out left and right thanks to free food and subsidized 2500sq ft housing.

In other eords, tiny homes aren't really the answer to begin with.

Why would you want to be poor and live in a tiny house.
You don't think girls will fuck you if you live in a poor tiny house do you?
Girls don't want embarrassing tiny houses so they are banned!

snopes.com/hud-tiny-homes-ban/

88, Fascist state now!

you ugly evil fucking bitch. first of all there's no reason to ban mobile homes or camper trailers on YOUR OWN LAND. that's an arbitrary law written by government and imposed on you for NO VALID REASON. if you want to live in a fucking mobile home on your own land, guess what faggot? you should fucking be able to. that's YOUR personal choice.
and second of all you're fucking wrong anyway, we're talking about square footage laws specifically. you honestly just made most of your post up.
and lastly, what the fuck is this "hurrrrrr tiny houses are a scam" horse shit? that is some serious fucking shilling and propaganda you ugly fatbitch nigger. fucking kill yourself. i hope you die in a fucking fire, that's the reality. people (if i can even classify you as human) like yourselves are the ones who did this to us. who put us in thesituation we're in in the world today. i hate you so deeply. so totally. you have no clue.

Why not go splits on a normal house with your bros, gamer house style. Get 5 friends to pool funds on a mortgage.

>Actualy the only way forward is national socialism.
>It is the only system that rejects the lies of communism AND the slavery of capitalism.
let's just translate this to what you're actually saying
>"the only way to stop the government from telling people what they can and can't do on their own land is to use the system of government that actually literally nationalizes land ownership and turns everything into the property of the government.
MY
FUCKING
GOD
KILL
YOUR
FUCKING
SELF
BITCH

WOW WHAT A FUCKING STRAWMAN, YOU EVIL CUNT. THAT SNOPES ARTICLE IS ABOUT A HUD BAN, YOU MORON, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTICLE THAT I POSTED OR THE TOPIC WE'RE DISCUSSING OVERALL.
FUCKING KYS HOLY SHIT, YOU FAGGOT KIKE PROPAGANDIST. PLS KYS.

ANYONE DEFENDING THIS SHIT. ANYONE. LITERALLY ANYONE DEFENDING THIS SHIT. ANYONE. ANYONE OF THEM IS A KIKE PROPAGANDIST. END OF STORY. PERIOD. THATS LITERALLY WHAT THEY ARE. THERE IS ZERO DEFENSE OF THIS. ZERO. NONE. IT IS PATENTLY WRONG, PRIMA FACIA. END OF STORY. THERE IS NO DEFENSE. IF YOU TRY TO DEFEND IT, YOU ARE A KIKE PROPAGANDIST, PERIOD. FUCKING DIE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE. THE WORLD AND THE UNIVERSE MUST BE RID OF YOUR ESSENTIAL LIVING ESSENSE. YOU MUST BE PLUNGED HEADFIRST INTO A BLACKHOLE AND FOREVER EXPUNGED FROM OUR REALITY.

You shouldn't have to hook up your home to any utilities if you don't want to

Not him but people are paying too much money for tiny houses and when the market adapts it will make things worse. Taxes are too high, prices are too high, and the construction industry has turned homes into glorified tents.

But you don't even own the land, you rent it from the government. You may own the property on the land, but you pay property tax as a rental fee.
So technically the government can decide what types of properties may or may not be constructed on their land.

it's actually so easy, exceptionally easy, to generate electricity from the sun using technology that's 100 years old. it's so simple, honestly. you just combine 3 old principles, 1) generators - any electrical motor running in reverse 2) a sterling engine - otherwise known as a "coke can engine", literally the simplest thing in the world to make 3) mirros and magnifying glasses that amplify the suns energy, similar to the what happens when you use a magnifying glass to fry an ant.

you magnify the suns power, the sterling engine runs off of heat and warmth, then you transfer that kinetic energy into the motor / generator and boom, you've got electricity. a simple battery to store said energy is all you need if you want energy at night. there is literally NO NEED for a fuckign electrical company. NONE. PERIOD. ZERO. but the nigger government forces us to be cucked and enslaved to them. this is the fucking evil bullshit of the jewishfaggot world we live in.
self-sufficiency is OUTLAWS because government works in concert with whoever has the most money AKA our slavedrivers. if you go socialist, then the slavedrivers just become the government itself and it all becomes even EASIER for them. those are the facts.

it's not your right or place to tell people what they should be spending their money on, nor what kind of houses they can and cannot live in. end of story. nothing else needs to be said on this matter, but i will also point out that many people either buy cheap tiny houses, or build them themselves, and they fit all codes and specifications except these new arbitrary square footage codes which are designed specifically to infringe upon your freedoms and rights to live independently and sustainably. it's nothing but jew and niggershit if you defend this crap honestly.

Sup Forums should get people into the legislature so we can start directly influencing our laws.

>you don't even own the land
wtf canadian? literally EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. WITH. THE. LEAFS.
so now you're advocating that we do away with the concept of private property and so we should fully submit to the long dick of the government enslaving us? AAAAAAAHAAHHHAHHHAHAAH KILLYOURSELF HOCKEYNIGGER.

not if they want to abolish the concept of private property or land ownership, as that dumbass leaf does

>it's not your right or place to tell people what they should be spending their money on, nor what kind of houses they can and cannot live in.
If you mean by way of laws then I agree with you but you can give your opinion to anyone and you can point out trends. I think that people are choosing to live in tiny homes because big homes are out of their reach because of speculators driving prices up.

Because the union is all about the $$

Except the leaf is right, you dont own the land, the government does.

>If you mean by way of laws then I agree with you but you can give your opinion to anyone and you can point out trends.
by "you" i am talking about the government that you are obviously shilling for and defending here. "you" in the sense that you're defending LEGISLATION that infringes upon these rights, and it's wrong. it's patently wrong and it's patently evil and if you defend it then you too are wrong and evil IMO and i hope nothing but the worst things for you and your family in your life.
>I think that people are choosing to live in tiny homes because big homes are out of their reach because of speculators driving prices up.
translation
>people are enslaved, therefore we should take away the means that they use to free themselves from slavery.
good fucking god, i hate you.

That seems awful, having to explain things to dumb people all day. Maybe the laws are so shit because smart people stay away from the mess.

the leaf isn't right, it's a lot more complicated than that. if the government owned the land, it could come on to it and do whatever it wants, but it can't. there are a million restrictions and rights that landowners have over the government in the USA, so even in a legal sense, his argument is patently wrong.

obviously in a moral and philosophical sense, it's evil as well. he's a fucking commie and apparently you are too (or NatSoc, believing government should own the land). a law doesn't make something moral or right though. it doesn't mean that peoples lives will be better from it. if you think it does, you should honestly kill yourself. jump off a bridge. go run into a fire. the world will be better off without, nazinigger.

threads like this, with all of the piece of shit people who come on and defend this shit, just reminds me how NOT cool Sup Forums really is. sometimes nazi jokes are funny, and being politically incorrect is funny. but when it comes to shit like this and you defend it, it shows that you guys really don't "get" anything, and you really genuinely are just a bunch of miserable, autistic, fatfuck losers sitting behind your keyboard, wanting to inflict your personal pain upon the world.

If everyone lived in a small comfy house few people would work, progress would stagnant and the societies that didn't do this neet bullshit would rule and takeover anyway. Why do you think people no longer live in grasshuts sleep, eat and fuck all day anymore? Because the niggers who didn't, saw, conquered and came in their women.

lol why are you so angry faggot

maybe you shouldn't move to a neighborhood in a city or county with compliancy rules or a HOA that you don't agree with

Personally I don't believe in banning things like this, because if morons want to throw their life-savings away on an unrealistic fad, more power to them!
Tiny homes are a great way to take advantage of women who don't understand the difference between appreciating and depreciating assets.
They think they'll be towing the fucking thing all over the nation, going from gig to gig (lol), but what really happens is they settle for an uninspiring lot where their money-pit gets permanently parked by a man with a dually.
Then they spend the next 18 months rediscovering their appreciating for normal living via one inconvenience after another, until they decide to list it for 40% more than it will eventually sell for, usually to the bearded bug-men that built it for her.
Its a nice racket, that's for sure!

Pic related is about setting things right. My own community has taken the lumber industry and petroleum industry to task a few times and we are very poor people.
I don't support the things you say I do. I'm thinking that you are either too upset to think rationally or you are not having a good faith discussion. In any case I'm not overly concerned with the struggles of city people.

You're absolutely wrong but this is funny

Go on...

these people will just drain education and health care systems. Try living tiny and without modern medicine and hospitals. You must pay into that system and upkeep it if you want the benefits from it.

Grow up and be realistic.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong morally, just telling it how it is. If you want to build something on your property you have to submit it for approval and get permission.
If you want to own a tiny house, put it in a trailer park style community with other tiny homes.

>INTELLIGENT LIBERTARIANISM
heh good one

They can be the most ruthless people on earth.

What you say involves a lot of dead kikes and niggers!

I'm in!

But how the fuck do I start a family if I can't even afford to live? This is only because of the housing market. Its the biggest gainer in the fucking world

>education and health care systems.
Both of those things can and should be automated. There is no reason for people to not have those things in their homes in the form of gradually improving appliances from this year forward.

>libertarianism, SERIOUS GENUINE INTELLIGENT LIBERTARIANISM is the only way forward.
your opinion has been deposited into the trash where it belongs.
sage

All lies.

Like the guy that responded to you. I hope Trump comes for guns! Then people like you are going to die and my people will remain even after the losses. Kikes may never recover!

...

>gets called out on their tin foil hat bullshit logic
>rafes

Classic pol butthurt

This dude keeps agreeing with OP

Didnt even read most of this thread but this is some backwards logic. By this logic americans and their obsession with big houses that caused the housing bubble are good and societies like japan with more minimal lifestyle and focus on culture following their technology is backwards shit.

Your hysterics are near meme levels. Keep going. Tell us what you really think.