>Be Sup Forums >Plan to hopefully deport blacks in North America "back" to Africa to create all huwite homeland >"We're white NATIONALISTS, not supremacists!" >South African government redistributes ancestral land to Zulus, Xhosas and other South African tribes >"REEEEEEE!!!! SOUTH AFRICA IS OUR LAND! SAVE TEH BOAR! 14/88 RACE WAR NAOOOO!!!"
It's all the white man's land we're just hoping they die off in droves
Samuel Reyes
go outside
Jose Cooper
What is? Africa or America?
Parker Taylor
It's snowing. Just answer the question. Sup Forums always gets mad evasive whenever the topic of the ethnostate or South Africa comes up.
Luis Rodriguez
>>South African government redistributes ancestral land to Zulus, Xhosas and other South African tribes Neither of those tribes are even native to south africa and actually came there after the whites had settled it. When the whites arrived there were only a very sparse population of Khoisan hunter gatherers (who are not black in the conventional sense but are actually a different race than blacks and possibly the oldest most primitive race of humans) who are now only 1 % of south africas population. By your "logic" all the black land in south africa should be then redistributed to the khoisan.
Josiah Murphy
that equivalence makes no sense since in both instances it is a country the white man built, there is no country that blacks built where white people live. that said, i wouldnt mind in the slightest that the blacks got SA for them as long as blacks left white countries.
Brayden Hill
Bantus have been established in South Africa since the middle ages, centuries before Europeans even touched the Cape. Besides, the Khoisan and their more plentiful mixed-race cousins "The Cape Coloureds" don't want a white minority apartheid government disenfranchising them like it did in the 20th century either.
Not a single region of Africa is "white land". Why are you supportive of whites living on it?
Elijah Robinson
> Invites a bunch of foreign people to his country by lying, then makes them his slaves
> Years later his fellow white men complain about black people and how they should "go back to Africa".
Why are whites so retarded?
Luke Murphy
South Africa under apartheid wasn't "built by whites". The economy was very heavily dependent on black labour to exploit. "Afrikaners" didn't mine their own gold and diamonds and they didn't plant and harvest their own crops. They just handed out wages to the Zulus and Xhosas who did.
Like Jews (from an alt-right point of view).
Kevin Williams
Just White-Americans. Latvians, Russians, Poles, Brits and other people from Europe are cool I guess.
Jacob Ross
>South Africa belongs to central African congoid niggers who showed up after whites had already settled the land This is how stupid you are.
David Wilson
>bantus have been established in South Africa since the middle ages Factually untrue
Samuel Robinson
Only the San have rightful claim to South Africa. Bantus and Boers do not.
Wyatt Hughes
good thing they didn't end up like these shrimp dick rocket scientists huh? all those kangz going to waste
>Asia for Asians >Europe for Europeans >Africa also for Europeans
The state of Sup Forums.
Jack Cooper
(You)
Benjamin Reyes
>Bantus have been established in South Africa since the middle ages False.
Ayden Gomez
Look, if you're going to lie, at least try to make it seem like you're telling the truth.
Luis Reyes
Hawkins was a mad man
Nathan Perez
If that's the case why does Sup Forums support apartheid states like Rhodesia and 20th century South Africa?
Isaiah Sanchez
Your link supports what I wrote, retard. Gain reading comprehension.
Jace Johnson
>When arguments based on historical fact and ethics fail just out-edge your opponent
Anthony Sullivan
Well you've convinced me. An entirely unsourced Wikipedia article.
Colton Robinson
Oh, so the Dutch were civilizing n sheit as far back as 1500?
Carson Jackson
Because it's fucking Sup Forums. Their greatest hero died a coward in a lonely bunker in Berlin and let the kikes take firm control of the Volk. Laugh at them every chance you get.
Robert Walker
Everyone knows this is untrue
The Portuguese mariner Bartolomeu Dias was the first European to explore the coastline of South Africa in 1488 The first European known to have landed on what is now the United States was Ponce de Leon, as he set foot in Florida in 1513
The Dutch set up a refreshment station in 1652.
The original white settlers of the Cape first came face to face with the Bantu (Xhosa Blacks) around 1770 on the banks of the Great Fish River, 120 years after Van Riebeeck (Dutch) came to the Cape and 1000 km east of Cape Town. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xhosa_Wars#Background
Meanwhile Shaka's conquests ended up causing a domino affect of famine and war that ended up killing off 2 million Africans in the early 19th century. Eventually there was less than 50 000 Blacks fleeing around in small groups from marauding tribes in an area the size of France when the Boers trekked into the interior to found their Republics. Manifest destiny without bloody hands.
Before that the only contact with other races had been with the Capoid races of Koi and San (Koisan) Bushman that had been on the Cape since the first day the Dutch and French arrived. After a few skirmishes the Afrikaners and Koisan lived fairly well together until present day.
The Khoisan today (the original inhabitants of South Africa who were wiped out by the bantu in the Eastern parts of the region) were assimilated by the Dutch. The marjority are called coloureds today and are very mixed. They speak Afrikaans, are Calvinist Christian and hate blacks. This is in the Cape were there are no black African land claims. We only met the first Blacks at the Great Fish river along the east coast 150 years after landing on the cape.
Meanwhile Shaka's conquests ended up causing a domino affect of famine and war that ended up killing off 2 million Africans in the early 19th century. Nigs being self destructive nigs. Eventually there was less than 50 000 Bantu (Blacks) fleeing around in small groups from marauding tribes in an area the size of France when the Boers trekked into the interior to found their Republics. Manifest destiny without bloody hands.
The British then imported African labour to work in the mines and up until the 1920s hundreds of thousands move to Johannesburg from Zimbabwe, Botswana and Mozambique for work. They assimilated with the blacks already there and their descendants act like they're natives when they are in fact immigrants. We are suffering the from the future that Europe and sooner America will have.
In many ways the future of the Whites in Africa parallel the history of the Bushmen in Africa.
The Bushmen are now called the Khoisan in PC circles. However I will use Bushmen out of respect, as Khoisan literally means “men-thieves and murderers.” The Bushmen are possibly the original humans. They occupied virtually the whole of Africa. From the Cape to Cairo they were the dominant group. Their presence can be seen in the rock paintings present from the cape all the way to Egypt. They were the dominant race of humans in prehistory.
The Bushmen had a universalistic view of the world. There was no individual ownership of land. Land belonged to the tribe and the ancestors. When they hunted the animals some groups would apologise to the animals that they had to kill them for food.
However their Eden-like existence did not continue. Blacks from West Africa essentially spread out, displacing the Bushmen until the only areas left were the deserts and the winter rainfall areas of southern Africa. Then came the Whites and then with the Black population movements caused by the Mfecane (a period of warfare and population movements from 1815–1840), they now control nothing. Recently the Black government of Botswana decided to remove even the little land that the Bushmen had and use it for other purposes. The few Bushmen remaining are the downtrodden servants of all, without a land of their own. They have left a faint genetic footprint principally amongst the coloured people of the Cape and even more weakly amongst some Black tribes and the Afrikaner, but they are a lost people. Their final fate is as a tourist attraction for rich White liberals who can feel good about their misery.
Hunter King
fucking hell bantzmaster 9000
Nicholas Davis
>A Dutch lemonade stand in 1652 >A Portugese guy sailed *around* Africa in 1480-something
Again, were the Nguni established in modern day South Africa in the 1500s or not? Furthermore do Khoisan and Cape Coloureds support white rule in the form of an apartheid government, yes or no?
Charles Cox
Because it's always different rules for us. Whites out of Africa and niggers out of Europe would be fine by me. But no, it's Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, Europe for everyone.
Asher Green
>Again, were the Nguni established in modern day South Africa in the 1500s or not? No they were not in modern day South Africa in the 1500. The Nguni are a miss-mash of Xhosa, Zulu, Ndebele and Swazi people. The Ndebele didn't even exist until the 1500s in modern Zambia and Zaire.
>Furthermore do Khoisan and Cape Coloureds support white rule in the form of an apartheid government, yes or no?
According to the King of the Khoisan they would be very happy going back to Apartheid times. The Cape Coloreds I do not know but I do know they vote 100% in line with White South Africans.
Isaac Robinson
There are several instances of Boer massacres of Khoisan people in recent history which resulted from Khoisan pushback against Dutch expansion in the Cape region. The idea that they are not or ever were "assimilated" in apartheid society is ludicrous. The very existence of Apartheid South Africa came at the expense of their land and tens of not hundreds of thousands of lives of their people who were killed from a mixture of European violence and disease.
I'll ask again, are you indigenous to any part of Africa? If not why do you support white colonialism if you claim that you want "homelands for all"?
Henry Lopez
>why are you supportive of whites living on it?
Because they actually develop the land and could make a prosperous country out of the most nigger filled African nation, minus all the niggers of course
Benjamin Richardson
White pride worldwide on full display in this thread.
Ethan Green
Hawkins was financed by City of London Jews.
Colton Garcia
> complains about whites > flag
Checks out
Brandon Thomas
What pol says they want >europe for europeans >africa for africans >asia for Asians >etc What pol really wants >Europe for europeans >asia for europeans >africa for europeans >gas the kikes race war now
Noah Johnson
>There are several instances of Boer massacres of Khoisan people in recent history which resulted from Khoisan pushback against Dutch expansion in the Cape region. The idea that they are not or ever were "assimilated" in apartheid society is ludicrous. The very existence of Apartheid South Africa came at the expense of their land and tens of not hundreds of thousands of lives of their people who were killed from a mixture of European violence and disease. The Khoisan King disagrees with you 100% as stated in his papers he filed with congress last November.
The ONLY indigenous in South Africa are the Khoisan. I am SURE 100% that every White South African would be more than happy to let the King of the Khoisan decide the fate of blacks and whites, because we already know his decision. Separate homelands..
Hudson Hernandez
Sup Forums only ever takes up the noble "homelands for everyone" position when called out on their love of imperialism and colonialism by outsiders such as myself. If I were to get banned or leave right now you'd all start hatching out LARPish plans on how to reinstate apartheid.
Xavier James
>Miss-match
Explain.
Brody Myers
fuck off, niggers feel entitled to keep africa black only while living in white lands. It's a good thing that africa is now being flooded with asians. Once we fill it up with alot more, we'll be able to fully take over. Africa is a beautiful place, niggers are the shitstain of it.
Xavier Ward
They already live there bud To want to move the white people out is ethnic cleansing. Just be honest with your terms bro.
South Africa's economy has maintained steady growth since the end of apartheid. I know Sup Forums likes to imagine the country's gone to shit now to make yourselves feel better about supporting colonialist aggression which runs counter to your "Europe for Europeans, Africa for Africans" stance, but it's not. The only difference in South Africa today is that the wealth generated is more equitably distributed amongst the population and 90% of the population can hope to be more than miners or agricultural labourers for "Afrikaner" run companies.
Andrew Cox
>Everything bad that whites have done is da Jooz fault
Jews are whites with a fancy religion to me.
Leo Jackson
A reasonable and respectable reply.
Josiah Reed
You are out of your mind. South Africa has fallen apart totally. The entire electric grid has not been serviced since Apartheid. The Rand has plummeted since Apartheid. Less Blacks as a % have a job now than during Apartheid. The country is falling apart, nothing is maintained. What you are saying is just not true,
When apartheid ended, the life expectancy in South Africa was 64 — the same as in Turkey and Russia. Now it’s 56, the same as in Somalia. There are 132.4 rapes per 100,000 people per year, which is by far the highest in the world: Botswana is in second with 93, Sweden in third with 64; no other country exceeds 32.
I could go on for days about how delusional your statements are. South Africa is about the most dangerous place you can be outside a war zone. Better...No
Hunter Price
Can "King Khoisan" (in quotation marks because there's no such thing as a monarchy for a unified "Khoisan" ethnicity, but only for hundreds of tribes) make whites indigenous to Africa? No, so the Boers are still trespassers that arrived a full 200 after the land was settled by Bantu pastoralists. You're hypocrites.
Ethan Long
A white supremacist supporter of colonialism. Thank you for being upfront about your intentions.
Landon Flores
>>Plan to hopefully deport blacks in North America "back" to Africa to create all huwite homeland wrong
Ryder Nguyen
this
Kevin Bailey
Why do you pepper everything with lies ? King Khoebaha Cornelius III is the Khoisan King. Yes there are other leaders but he is the King.
The Boers are not trespassers. No white man saw a Xhosa, Zulu or any other Bantu, in South Africa for 150 years after they arrived. That's 7 generations!
CIA officially stated that Hitler died an old man in south america.
Christian Lewis
If we're using GDP as an indicator of "stability" South Africa overall is doing fine. You just cherry-picked a few statistics to push your "whites MUST rule South Africa" narrative with. I don't even know if they're genuine or even relevant since having a job under Apartheid for example didn't count for shit given that Bantu wages were artificially kept as low as possible by the government.
Parker Evans
>How does this work? you put them all on a plane and shoot it down once it flies over the ocean. You're welcome
Jayden Edwards
It isn't Sup Forums with the double standard, most of Sup Forums would champion isolationism in my experience. Almost every western country on earth now has a substantial (and growing) nigger population to deal with. But some remnant colonists producing most of the wealth in the ass end of Africa are being ethnically cleansed. It'd be entertaining to watch Zimbabwe happen all over again if I didn't know millions more niggers will be heading for my country to escape their own colossal stupidity.
Jackson Edwards
Well, they are kind of 13% of the population which gets in the way of the 100% Bavarian phenotype demographic state of the proposed ethnostate. Furthermore you've got a lot of Mestizos and Asians which together compose around 20-25% of the population too.
Kayden Fisher
I don't understand this land redistribution. Lots of Black's have already been given free housing(they built my mom a house 5 or so years ago) and farms(my family have a farm too. Its not used for anything) A while back. What this sounds like is land seizure.
Evan Rogers
There were always niggers in South Africa but their populations were so sparse it gave the illusion that niggers never lived there remember retard nigger populations barely ever exceeded 300,000 before the white cucks started helping them.
Jack Hall
The people who talk about an ethnostate literally want to give every state besides 1 to non-whites, and just keep that 1 as a white state. If anything you should be encouraging this retarded proposal.
Ryan Kelly
>Bantu wages were artificially kept as low as possible by the government. What!?! OMG you are insane. Please show me where the government set wages for the Bantu.
South Africa is falling apart. Period. Anything else is a LIE. Drive through of Johannesburg today youtu.be/IuNYOwKlDIE
The only reason there is ANY GDP left is because the mines keep running. The infrastructure is falling apart, Hospitals are there for you to go die in now. It is the most dangerous place on earth.
Benjamin Williams
It is, theres historical evidence whites settled in south africa before tribal africans.
Colton Young
I don't think many of us actually care about the land in SA, it's the people we're worried about
we often talk about getting them to come here
Kevin Hill
a Plethora of evidence.
David Perry
>No they were not in modern day South Africa in the 1500. yes, yes they were. he already linked an article that supports that claim. you have no evidence to suggest otherwise so stop spreading this bullshit.
Christian Morris
NO I DON'T LIVE IN DENVER. I GREW UP IN SIERRA LEONE
Aaron Nelson
>yes of course! but I can't give you any
Anthony Cruz
this guy is single handedly btfo -pol
Connor Gomez
The nigger has a point whites should go back to our homeland Europe and stay there forever because we too cucked of a race to genocide a landmass's native inhabitants and instead let them multiply over the centuries until jews eventually can weaponize against us. Colonialism was the worst thing for white people to happen.
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The archeology and the Khoisan history do not agree.
Jayden Adams
you can get the parts that have always been filled with niggers and nothing but niggers u can also have south africa if you get out but as is typical with niggers you will just cry and attack and get as much as you possibly can wtih no actual thought for fairness or logic
Gabriel Perry
As whites expanded further from the southwest coastal areas which they landed on they faced more and more Xhosa and Bantu resistance. If you wanna say that all of South Africa is "white man's land" because the Boers set up shop on a landmass the size of Wales which only Khoisan lived on you're reaching.
Blacks are not cucks they wont give another race any human rights, the nigger and khoi have been enemies for millenia in Southern Africa. Also dont think the Khoi wouldnt genocide whites if they had the nigger advantage like niggers.
Angel Clark
>How does this work? well first you create a strawman, and then you knock it down
Jaxon Thompson
No the faggot racist arguing in this thread admitted kohesians have lived in SA before whites, and no matter how much mental gymnastics you want to do , kohesians are not white
Henry Butler
Hawkins didn’t sail until 1562 and didn’t get the Jesus de Lubeck from Elizabeth I until 1564. Stop lying and get back to picking cotton.
Jason Walker
Didn't see you ask for any
we do know the Dutch East indian Company kept very very good records, they never ever mentioned Blacks in South Africa ever until the BoerTrekkers met up with them at the fish river in 1770 150 after the cape was formally settled. Just do a google search for are Blacks indigenous to South Africa.. heres one linkedin.com/pulse/truth-lies-south-african-history-blacks-indigenous-arrived-kobus-jfk/
Brandon Allen
lol that picture. Sierra Leone didnt exist until 1971, and the backwater tribal kingdom that occupied that place had been selling their own as slaves to muslims since the 8th century. Hell 71% of the people there today still cling to the barbaric religion that justified it all.
Xavier Long
>It's a good thing that africa is now being flooded with asians. Once we fill it up with alot more, we'll be able to fully take over. I expect no less from a Chinese colony
William Hughes
If you knew anything about south African history you'd know that that land is not historically Zulu land.
Jaxson Jackson
>retarded
So you don't agree with it?
Andrew Martinez
Earth
Daniel Foster
No what they found was around 50,000 scattered remnants of Zulu massacres.
Chase Gray
Khosians are closer related to other blacks than europeans, they are still african you mental chink
if you saw this nigga in europe you wouldnt think, "hmm what an interesting race I never seen before", no cunt 100% of time europeans would think he's just a nigger
Jace King
>"L-look! I have pictures of a few decaying buildings! Hand over control of your government to the huwite man and live under minority rule immediately, negros!"
Leo Hall
>you >not Racist >advocates white genocide
Wowee
Luke Jones
Oh I misunderstood the question. I thought you meant Blacks, since that is what we had been arguing. The Khoisan of course had been all over Africa since homo Sapiens became home Sapiens. No one disputes that the Khoisan were is south Africa and they loved the Whites. At least that is what their oral history says.
Lincoln Baker
evidently not.
Benjamin Wright
Yeah South Africa is just getting better ALL THE time