Kaiki was the most enjoyable character in the Monogatari series

Kaiki was the most enjoyable character in the Monogatari series.
Why did they kill him off?

he didn't die when he was killed

Kaiki is literally plebit personified.

I just read his opening monologue in Koi (because that's pretty much all that's translated). Holy fuck he's so best.

What does that even mean?

Intelligent, nihilistic and with wicked sense of humor

he's not a nihilist though, the mc is a nihilist.

Just like me.

He will not die until he get his hands all over Kanbaru. He already started conditioning her in Hana. He deceitfully got her to agree to have a date with him and was able to call her by her first name using his superior convincing skills. In just one date, they already call each other on a first name basis.

to make crab faithful to Mc

I mean you had a point until you said they call eachother by a first name basis.
Unless you think Kaiki is his first name then you would be wrong.
There is only one person we've seen animated who calls him Deishu and that's Gaen.

Kaiki has a sense of humor?

That is really misleading. He had been using Kaiki to introduce himself.
If Deishuu is really his first name, I've been had.
Can it be that the whole Deishuu Kaiki is his first name and we don't have his surname?
Even in wiki's, people have been using Kaiki like it is his first name.
Anyway, he still got to call Kanbaru by her first name.
It is a shame since Deishuu does not sound cool at all.

Not even the best specialist in my opinion. Cop/basically-a-specialist Koyomi in Musubi is cool too even if everyone just focuses on the shitty melodrama he has with Gahara.

That'd be shit for both of their characters I feel. Kaiki needs to get over his pathetic obsession with Tooe already, not shift to the closest one to her around. Kanbaru herself is living her own life happily and is gives no shits about all that bullshit anymore, she deserves better than what you're suggesting to be honest.

I'd be more open to Kaiki ending up with almost any other chick in the cast instead of Kanbaru to be honest.

>Anyway, he still got to call Kanbaru by her first name.
That doesn't carry the conotation you think it does. He refuses to call her by her family name because that's her dad's family name, who he's still asshurt about.

In another 10 years Araragi will actually be someone you expect to be going around with a legendary vampire.

He was. But it is weird how much love there is for him considering what he did to Karen. I guess people hate Karen.

Would a redditer date high teir highschool girls while scam selling bullshit charms to middle schoolers?

He hypnotized her into thinking she was sick for a couple days and stole her lunch money. It's kind of a dick move, but far from unforgivable.

He's way hotter with the beard. I hope he kept it after second season, I haven't followed the shows since that aired.

It's weirder that people keep saying that Koyomi should stop hating on him after he had Kagenui attack his family.

Sort of want a story set a hundred or so years in the future with just the immortal characters around as the returning characters (vamp Koyomi, Shinobu, Godchikuji, Yotsugi, Tadatsuru, probably Ougi, Yotsugi, through some sort of sheer bullshit probably Hanekawa too since she's part-oddity)

>yotsugi twice
I have no complaints

No

I sure hope you aren't trying to imply that boring, mary-sue Hanekawa was more interesting than Kaiki instead of an anchor dragging the series down.

Most of the cast is more interesting than Kaiki though. Manchild eternally butthurt about getting rejected that one time a few decades ago < pretty much all the other Specialists alone despite most of them not getting a fraction of the focus the guy gets, nevermind the rest of the cast.

He is not that butthurt anymore because he has Kanbaru now. That does not mean that he did not really love Tooe. He can't go on crying about it forever so he turns his focus on Kanbaru. She has a special place in his heart. He even gave one of his card to her. Kanbaru took it an said that she would take his offer and call him if she needs anything.

He may not have combat skills but he is the only one, among the specialist, that could create an oddity. He is also has great skill in convincing people. He is more decent compared to the MC. Kanbaru could not even get to hate him because he was very nice to her.

>He has Kanbaru now
He doesn't. It took until Hana for him to persuade himself to meet her in the first place despite how much help she needed earlier on, and she hasn't seen him after the arc either according to Suruga Bonehead. She's also busy living her own life as a sports doctor by Musubi too.

>that could create an oddity
Tooe created an oddity. Kaiki didn't.


>He is more decent compared to the MC.
Not even, and I have no issues with calling Koyomi out on his bullshit. He's a dumb teenager who acts like a dumb teenager. Kaiki's a fully grown man who acts more like a dumb teenager than most of the cast of dumb teenagers who had to deal with actual life-crippling problems.
By Hana Koyomi is basically just a goofier Oshino too, the closest thing he has to an issue is his on-off relationship with Gahara which isn't comparable to Kaiki's behavior. Kaiki's actual character is that he's self-inflictedly sort of pathetic, that's not me hating on the character, that *is* (and still is, as far as we know) is character.

>He is more decent compared to the MC
Kaiki is basically bad end Koyomi. For all the shit Koyomi gets (in-series and out of it, about 2/3rds of the main story was dedicated to everything he does backfiring and him struggling through it), Kaiki is basically Koyomi if he never actually got better and kept running away from or denying everything.

I'm absolutely certain that if their positions in the story were switched people here would be saying this about Koyomi instead. You guys always do this with "the other male main character" in these sorts of shows, I've noticed.

People were theorizing that Hanekawa could have "nine lives" like a cat. Sounds completely bullshit but also sounds like something Nisio would do to be honest.

Why is he so fast?

this

>taking care of Kanbaru
It is not that he didn't care about her. He clearly said that she just recently heard about Tooe's death. I don't think that there is any reason form him to lie about that. When he heard about it, he immediately went to check her up in Nise. Though he said that was just secondary, it was something important that needs to do. At that time, the devil's arm has already settled down. When did her mother die anyway?
Kanbaru took his card because she accepted his offer and not just to shut him up. That is why she tsundere'd when she took it. She will contact definitely contact him when she needs to. Her being busy and being a sport doctor is not a problem. Kaiki's offer to her is a blank check that is why he told her to call him only when she really needs to. That is to prevent her from calling him when she just need to talk to someone but even if she just need that, there is no reason why she can't. She does not a reason to hate him at all. Kaiki teasing her if "she fell in love to him" is a sign that he is not after being a father figure to her. He just wants to look out for her.

>create oddities
Kaiki can create oddities too. The tofu slug that he gave to Nadeko was able to manifest itself in Tsukihi Undo. That is probably why he is fascinated with the Gaen Lineage, particularly Tooe's. It is also possible that he learned how to create oddities through her help. He did say that he helped Tooe a lot before. That same fascination probably got his attention to Kanbaru. Araragi even said it in Ougi Dark.
>What’s more, she is the direct descendant of Tooe Gaen. No matter how the talent may manifest itself, the predisposition to create oddities is surely something that’s been passed down through the Gaen family for generations.
So it is not just Tooe alone but her ability to create oddities that got Kaiki to like her. That explains why he kept calling Kanbaru as Tooe's Legacy. He kept telling that he does not remember anything about Tooe but he remembers clearly that she is left handed and then project that to Kanbaru. He even said that Kanbaru might be just like Tooe because she is her daughter but the truth is that he is seeing Tooe in her. He just doesn't want to tell it directly.

>decent
He is also quite decent. He even questioned what Araragi have done to Nadeko in Koi. That is when Nadeko told him that Araragi was really happy to see her half-naked and in a school swimsuit. Kanbaru even said it herself that Kaiki is really nice.
Kaiki is not a degenerate. I know he deceives people but. as he said, he just give them what they want in exchange for money. The money the he got from the middle school students were just pocket change. I don't know why he is doing it but he is not profiting on his scam and cons that much. As as whole, Kaiki is a nice and decent guy.

Kaiki never really loved crab.
It was a one-sided infatuation towards him.
She got dumped again and again even in Koi.

So why did Shaft make Hana before owari s2 and spoil everyone that Kaiki and Ougi are alive?

>The tofu slug that he gave to Nadeko was able to manifest itself in Tsukihi Undo.
Point taken about the slug oddity, I'll retract what I said there.

>It is not that he didn't care about her.
I didn't say that he didn't. I said that it took him until Hana to persuade himself to even confront her, and that they don't meet again after that either.

>Kaiki is not a degenerate
I said he's pathetic, not a degenerate. I was also objecting to him "being decent compared to the MC", not him being an inherantly not decent at all. All the reasons hate on Koyomi for are mostly justified but also apply tenfold to Kaiki, the king of not actually confronting his issues and denying everything. Stemming from a 'problem' far, far pettier than pretty much everyone elses in the cast at that.