Why don’t tradcucks understand that unless there are very real and very harsh consequences in place...

Why don’t tradcucks understand that unless there are very real and very harsh consequences in place, women will never behave? As much as you wank to the past you never think about WHY things were that way. Women did not respect, fear, love, or revere their beta assigned husbands. They respected, feared, loved, and revered the dangerous forces in society (authority) that would leave them hungry, bloody, battered, freezing, and doomed if they dared to step out of line.

Tradcons are soft feminists and the sexual counterparts of LARPers.

>Hurr durr I’m a Viking!
How many people have you raped & killed in the name of Odin today?
>Umm...
>Hurr durr I’m a Crusader!
How many muslims & Jews have you killed or forcibly converted today?
>Umm...

They want all the flashy imagery and romanticism with none of the harsh reality needed to create such things. They think we stand a chance of winning as long as women have voting rights. They think we can win without imprisonment for adultery. They think we can win without male preference in custody battles. They think we can win without arranged marriages. They think we can win without religious fundamentalism. They think we can win without taking women out of the mainstream workforce. They think we can win with alimony.

It’s absurd. Tradcons are deep down just scared little betas who still believe women are unicorns who will just magically behave of their own accord if men do XYZ. It’s fetishism. It’s a cargo cult. Tradcons watch 1950’s sitcoms and read propaganda posters from the era and think it’s just a matter of monkeying them. You can act like the hardest alpha in the world but deep down women know ultimately you’re just another submissive follower of big daddy government and the church.

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>whining the post

Do you have any power yourself besides bitching?

>SEETHING tradfag got triggered
wew

Tradcons are first wave/second wave feminists.
First wave feminism became second wave, second wave became third wave.

Similarly to gun control, the banning of fully autos/suppressors was the first step to a future blanket ban of all firearms except bolt actions and pump actions.

100% agreed.

Women need to be disciplined like a child.

wtf did I just read.

Truth

Totally agree but I never see it happening in our lifetimes or ever if this trajectory keeps up.

Wat

Man's downfall was believing women are their equals.

saving this for use as a pasta later

have fun at your tabletop gaming session later today

Only a beta would say this. I'm an average girl, I thing special, and all of the hot guys I've been with never told me I shouldn't be able to vote, or that I shouldn't be able to work. Know why? Because hot guys don't need those crutches to get a woman's attention.

Sorry you were born short or ugly, or both.

They're first wave feminists. Second wave are the man hating radicals like Andrea Dworkin.

That's because they were wanting to fuck you, you stupid whore.

So you want to basically make women afraid to be themselves with the threat of freezing or starving to death yet you say your way is more moral?

No one gives a shit what you think really.

There is nothing immoral about it. The alternative is what is immoral, as you can see by our morally sick society.

Yeah, and I make my money and look hot enough to fuck, and they make their money and look hot enough to fuck.

You loses don't look hot enough to fuck, so you want to take away women's capacity to earn enough money, therefore needing to fuck you.

Just be grateful you can watch women fuck in porn.

Behold fellas, the demon in all its evilness. Your time is coming to an end, demon. Your going to answer for your fucking sins.

I had a strong family in this society so I'd have everything to lose and nothing to gain from your proposal as a female.

Living in this society made me Darwinian. Just let people make their mistakes and pay the price. Why should I care?

Timestamped tits or exit.

I had this argument earlier.
>looks at the past with rose coloured glasses
>all people in the past were chaste and wholesome and pure
>people didn't fuck around, be unfaithful or have any sexual kinks
ye olde ≠ less degenerate

There is a simple reason. It's not the only reason but it's a breddy big one.

Before internet

>i want to fuck toasters
>dont be a fucking retard
>grow up

After internet

>I want to fuck a toaster
>google
>find an online/social media community with 1000+ members about people wanting to fuck toasters
>fuck up your life, the cops break down your door to find you fried to a crisp with your dick stuck in a toaster.

Because it's causing the foundations of our entire civilization to erode. I can't make you care about your civilization, but don't preach to us about your twisted sense of morality if you're going to be apathetic about its effects.

I think most people are idiots and I don't care what happens to them from their bad decisions. I'm a misanthropist. I shouldn't have to pay the price for other people being stupid. I don't feel the concept of collective guilt.

Just come out and say you're a luddite then, lad; stop beating round the bush.

So civilization will crumble and those that don't prepare will pay the price.

What on earth makes you believe that a society you openly hate should care one wit about how you feel? Let me guess, you have a vagina? That's the probable explanation for your solipsism, if I had to guess.

They don't care. This is why I'm extra vigilant in protecting my interests.

This. If you arent a NEET refusing to slave away for roasties and old childless losers, you are part of the problem

True enough.
Understandable. What isn't understandable is that you'd expect society to help you protect those interests at its own expense.

Well. I don't want to fuck a toaster, if that's what you're suggesting.

No, just that sometimes young blokes here have a blinkered view of the world. They think everything before now was people who only fucked each other from early adulthood and stayed faithful to their missionary position hubby/missus till death.
When the reality was their grandparents were just as much horny little fuck-bunnies who would stick their dick/have a dick stuck in them as any of us here.
There just wasn't the ability to communicate that in such a broad spectrum back then...

>loser rambles about what other people should be doing thread #43872343

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>So you want to basically make women afraid to be themselves with the threat of freezing or starving to death yet you say your way is more moral?
There is no such thing as good or evil. There is only power, and people too weak to pursue it.

Women are relics of a primitive age. Still hardwired to behave in ways that are dysgenic for a strong civilization. And it’s high time that these traits were culled from the gene pool. The domestic dog was once a savage forest creature too, but we bred out the worst traits and kept the best.

We are at war. And we are losing unless we EVOLVE. For men to win the sexual war, women must lose (I.E. every woman being paired with every man instead of the top 20% in SMV). This is why women fight so hard for feminism and traditionalism. It gives them the maximum odds for (female) sexual success.

>FUCK YOU MEN! IM A PROUD SLUT!! I WILL FUCK AAAALL THESE DARK TRIAD ALPHAS AND NOT GIVE A FUCK!! IM GONNA BE A BIGTIME EXECUTIVE AND THEN DADDY WILL LOVE ME!!
>FUCK YOU MISOGYNISTS!! A WOMAN CAN BE A HAPPY HOUSEWIFE TOO BECAUSE 3RD WAVE!!! NOW GET OVER HERE AND PUT A RING ON MY WRINKLY FINGER!! STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND RAISE CHAD/JAMAL’S SON!!! ITS THE CHIVALROUS THING TO DO!! BE A TRADITIONAL MAN AND STEP UP TO THE PLATE!!

For women to win the sexual war, men must lose. That’s weak beta men becoming living ATMs, chauffeurs, status symbols, and therapists for used up sluts and whatever hellspawn they had.

Nature isn’t good or evil, it’s apathetic and amoral. And for white men to win the gender wars we MUST become amoral in pursuit of victory.

If society isn't able to handle rights what do you think makes it worth it to survive? If it can't survive it means a culling is needed.

Women should be spanked when they are bad. Physical abuse is a big no-no and is very bad.

Also, they should have no rights, and be allowed only to serve their husbands or work in family owned business.

If the system won't be feminism or traditionalism why should I cooperate? No choice? Nope. I will live with my family for life and refuse to have kids. Good luck missing my genetics or contributions to society.

OP you are right on a few issues but remember this: if you work on self improvement and don't waste your time chasing tale, then one day you may find love. Don't fall in love with roasties, they are no longer able to form meaningful relationships but know that there are women out there who haven't given in to society and genuinely want a loving family and relationship.

Its not only about bringing the white woman back to the white man. It is also about bringing the white man back to the white woman.

You should make "I'm a fucking idiot" into a meme.

That would be so hilarious.

>I'm average

>lol you're born SHORT or UGLY!! hahahaha!

It's one thing to recognize that a game is skewed in your favor, it's another to keep playing with the rules as they are, and another entirely to not only keep playing, but to gloat about it. You're like a 12 year old 1st person shooter player who beat a 6 year old without letting him use his thumbs, screaming "HA YOU LITTLE FAGGOT WHAT NOW YOU GOT NOTHING BITCH NIGGER FAGGOT HA!", i.e, the very picture of class and nobility.

The very notion of rights is little more than the historical discussion by men, between men, about the scope of their liberties and responsibilities within the confines of civilization. It has nothing inherently to do with women. That was introduced after most of the discussion had already taken place. You assume you have rights for no other reason than that you were born into a late-stage civilization that treated you with them.

They will want you when they do not much of them self left. Work hard now! GET YOUR LIFE NOW! Woman are so messed up. One second a hoard of them will look at a guy like they are a sleaze then 5 minutes later they are weak in the knees. Daily shaming will suffice!

We're born with rights. Rights is something other people take away from you. If you take away my rights you're taking away something I was born with.

I already have zero social status so no shaming will work.

I hit above average with women and admit there is some truth to what you say.. it's like a parent who doesn't understand his children and disciplines them all the same way; his insecurity of being a bad parent makes him act out improperly; but that doesn't make "discipline" wrong. "Women voting" and women in the "workforce" are legitimate social ills from an objective cultural and social standpoint. It has been entirely unnecessary to raise this point with about 90% of the women I've been with; you simply lead by example and stick to principles; that is enough to guide them in the right direction.

That's a lot of salt. I have three guys lined up off Bumble that I'm flipping a coin on which one I'll spend the night with. All of them are hot, over 6ft, have nice lives in their photos, while you're talking in your undies at your mom's house.

They deserve my pussy, you don't. Darwinism, boyo.

>We're born with rights.

Nonsense on stilts. And even if you were, the discovery, maintenance, and enforcement of those rights would still have to take place in the confines of civilization, unless you choose to go wander the wilderness and be free. And no civilization is required, morally, ethically, or otherwise, to pursue forms of government that lead to its demise.

>I have no game so I have to beat women to like me.

Beta as fuck. My girls don't step out of line on me because they my dick is irreplaceable and that I'm never more than a phone call away from moving on to greener pastures.

Animals are born with rights. If animals deserve rights so do humans.

So what are you going to do? Go arrest almost all the nurses for working?

Just be the Chad of whatever it is you do or try. Then meet people socially at it or go out with local community gathers. Even if it ends up being just a bunch of big ugly fat black woman. You'll be getting more male social experience and bonding than a soyboy. You don't have to fuck them. Maybe you'll meet some thing on the way. A white girl that is like. Why is this white guy hanging out with 6 fat black woman? I must save him! Life is strange!

>Animals are born with rights
And these rights are?

Why do they have to be over 6' are you a tall bitch?

they shouldnt have rights

lol "If I had to go through what men go through, I'd do the same thing men all do these days! Ha. Gotcha, there. Now that I've said that, in a rational world, I'd act just the same as you do, you can see how much smarter I am and how much of an idiot you are. Checkmate, buddy".

Every objective data point you care to look at proves society is better now than it was then. GDP, medicine, life expectancy, education, freedom, opportunity, etc, everything is fucking better. Nice long rambling post though.

>deserve

You are a child. Who is the arbiter of this deservedness? Who decides that?

How do we go about changing our nations laws which have now been written to prevent us from being men in the household and have allowed women to run amok with the state as her sole provider?

Here's the truth: women pull shit because nothing turns them on like a man who will put her in her place.

It doesn't matter how physically beautiful you are as a man. As long as you are clean, neatly dressed and not afraid to take the reins you can pull in all kinds of pussy.

>We're born with rights. Rights is something other people take away from you. If you take away my rights you're taking away something I was born with.
Poppycock.

You were born with nothing more than the inalienable ability to eat, fuck (later in life hopefully), shit and die like the rest of us.
Your attitude speaks of expectations and entitlement - you're no better than the screeching lefties if that's where you're coming from.

You wait for the eventual collapse.

All women want love (attention or resources from a high value male) and relationships, obviously. They’re also hardwired to branch swing when they find an opportunity to do better. Women cannot love men the same way men love women.

Female love is respect and admiration in the moment. Male love is adoration.

A child loves daddy because he’s fun, he’s someone to respect/look up to, to admire, he’s comforting to be close by, and he’s cool. But at the same time a child can suddenly hate daddy because he won’t let you eat chocolate cake for dinner or go to a concert. It’s conditional. A man loves his child with 10000000000x the intensity. It’s total adoration, they’re the greatest thing that has ever happened in the history of the universe. You’d die for them, you can’t imagine life without them.

Men adore women, women adore children, and children adore pets.

Respect flows upwards from this arrangement but LOVE flows downwards.

You didn't get me there. I don't see any hypocrisy there. Not having any rights is far worse than what men go through today anyways and I don't care if guys go MGTOW or NEET anyways.

Tits/timestamp or gtfo
Does everybody forget the Rules?

Yes that's why muslim women are so faithful. If you had half a brain you wouldn't need force to keep your woman in place.

And accelerate it by having a big white family that doesn't contribute to the system.

>I have three guys lined up off Bumble that I'm flipping a coin on which one I'll spend the night with

lol I'm 29, have been with 3 women in my life, one of whom is my wife, and have turned down many more. You and I are like the perfect examples of our genders being exactly the opposite of who society says we are.

Society says man=untrustworthy horndog looking to GET LAID

Woman= person who deeply feels for society as a whole and who wants nothing more than to help people and start a family.

Yet here we are. lol it's kind of funny if you think about it. I bet this sort of dichotomy is much more common than people think

No, but the ones that I fuck will eventually find out after a stressful shitty day at work that they don't have to be there. The way society is currently structured makes it hard for couples to create a healthy dynamic; some relationships require two people working and within that context you can make it work; but going the career path is (objectively) not a comfortable or sustained alternative for a woman and prevents her from flourishing/fulfilling her potential as one. For a man to remain attractive to a woman, the principles (that I'm indirectly reference) need to be self evident and not explained; women fall in love with "what you are" not "who you are" (the guys who just "get it"; you cannot appeal to their reason to get them to like you; you don't tell them "they shouldn't be working", you just create the right social dynamics to let them feel that what they are doing is unnecessary. Any man who is comfortable in his own skin can do this.

This is sadly true.
The only way to fix women is to fix society.
The main reason women 50 years ago weren't sluts was because you'd be shamed and shunned by everyone for it.
Now the complete opposite is true.
Flipping shame around so that shaming people is now seen as shameful is perhaps the greatest achievement (((they))) have managed to pull off.

>I love traditional women, Sup Forums! I will marry one someday :^)

I wasn't trying to "get you there". That whole thing was making fun of you.

You need to stop and ask yourself this, if you're sincere and genuinely who you say you are: "Why did I latch on to the most extreme position put forward by any user in this board, ignore the basic argument, and then assume that each person agrees with said most extreme position? Did I use that to straw man everyone else? Is that the kind of thinking that I want to abide?"

You mean 60 years ago. 50 years ago was 1968, the height of the hippie era.

Typical response from a woman.
Instead of an argument, she resorts to social shaming.
Women can't think of anything outside of what a group has told them it's okay.
It literally reveals your inferiority.

You fucking retards are the first to bitch about Muslims setting up Shariah when Shariah or a Christian equivalent is exactly what is needed to get women the fuck in line. You can't have it both ways you faggots, OP is right. You either lock things the fuck down and harshly punish bad female behavior, or you live as a western pussy forever.

Both the modern left and modern far right support Sharia. I decide to side with no one.

Likely because you had a good mom and so you think "well she was a good woman and didn't have shariah" well she lived on the fumes if you will of a past extreme religious system of morals.

>this entire post

>pretending to be a girl online to ibsult other men
I hope you can get better, my man.
Try going to the gym, pick up a language to learn and focus on studies/work.
I will pray for you.

Not only a good mom but a good sister. I had an extremely Christian upbringing.

Well there you go, I had a similar situation, very Christian mother and father, sister is also very christian. Notice how they aren't whiny despicable whores when they adhere to the bible?

I spanked my wife today because she was complaining constantly about the fucking snow.

She hasn't done it since and she made me pancakes to apologize. Feels good

Show 'em

It's possible to get a trad wife despite the shitshow of a society we live in.

Just marry an ugly girl.

My breasts can only be see by men over 6ft with at least 6 inch penis making six figures, and you're not Jordan Peterson.

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Oh come on now women have the capacity for love too, plenty of women who love men who treat them like absolute shit or who cheat on them or who are unemployed and without a cent. As men we tend to perceive female wrongdoings but if you look around there are plenty of guys who are incapable of love and just view women as wet holes.

Girls into The Smiths are best to be avoided.
youtube.com/watch?v=Xv8LdKp2Y-8

It's not going to happen, test levels have fallen too low.
We must first fix our global hormone levels.

He didn't say that they did not. Fucking idiot.

> I’m alpha and can leave whenever I want
Wait till when you’re married.

>Here's the truth: women pull shit because nothing turns them on like a man who will put her in her place.

This is a universal truth. I learned it way too late in life.

The problem is that the woman can easily sic The State on you for putting her in her place. These days, her discipline amounts to a "verbal lashing" and that's about it. Otherwise there will be plenty of evidence for her to accuse you of the "crime" of putting her in her place.

Shit, even cops have to struggle when dealing with drunk bitches. One man-handling too strong and a thousand fucking cameras are on the cop and social media is streaming "POLICE BRUTALITY!"

Yes fellow conservative. Trad women are the best.

> just marry an ugly girl

*tick tock*

you are right though. the cycle of civilization is this
>strong patriarchy
>prosperity
>women demand more freedom
>fuck everything up
rinse and repeat.

mgtow is always right when it comes to women.

Stop arguing with the vapid cunt. Demand tits or gtfo since she dropped part of the user to get her pussy privilege on the fucking Ukrainian borsch site.

I do think there is more than a grain of truth in what you’re saying. A lot of the men on here are at the bottom of the evolutionary pile.

But as someone who finds it extremely easy with women I can’t help but think that they’re right. I’m in a situation where she’s 24 I’ve been with over 100 women and find no problem banging solid 8s off tinder regularly.

But in terms of finding a decent, kind women with integrity and honesty, who hasn’t been fucked by >5 guys and who has interests and opinions and a sense of humour. That’s very difficult. Especially in the UK with our degenerate culture.

It’s a curse for alphas and betas. The betas can’t bang and hate women. The alphas bang all the time but realise that there are virtually no good women left to make a wife and build your life with.

Honestly I would rather have fucked one woman in my life and marry her than be in the current situation I’m in where I can fuck as many women as I wanted but have so far barely found any worthy of love.

*where aged 24

>Why don’t tradcucks understand that unless there are very real and very harsh consequences in place, women will never behave?

but trad position is a non-whiteknight one. women should face consequences.

>Yeah, and I make my money and look hot enough to fuck, and they make their money and look hot enough to fuck.

shut up you you thot you. thotty.

marry a fatty. no one likes fatties

not a great example, as, relatively, she is out of his league; shes really just proof that gold digging whores just need to punch down

kek havent you seen that pic of that woman who lost weight and divorced her husband?