Why aren't westerners buying manga?

Why aren't westerners buying manga?

Because I can read scanlations for free.

We talked about this bait months ago, fuck off.

Sup Forums BTFO

What does "heavily scanlated" mean
I didnt know scanlation came in grades

I live in socialist republic of Europe, don't have anywhere to buy them from, but I did buy a few from Amazon when I was in the US.

Much better and different feel to read the real thing.

what data? The ones that are scanlated are popular and i really doubt the unpopular ones sell better.

manga is expensive as fuck

I'd rather buy an actual book for less than the price of 1 manga volume out of 20 or whatever.

Don't forget to report and sage this sjw eceleb trash

If they manage to find a way to release a weekly or monthly magazine with the translated chapters the same day as the ones in japan I'd buy them.

I live in a third world country.
And it seems stuff I wanna read never gets officially translated.

Cost is too high. I'd pay for a physical or legitimate electronic copy if it wasn't at extortionate, cutthroat prices.

Because it's a garbage format to physically own, and I don't read moon.

>reeeeee le sjw menace
go back to whatever site you come from, OP asked a question and we're not autistic enough to know or care who some random person on twitter is

>@ Manga Publisher Panel @ #SDCC17
That's a weird name for a person to have.

Too bad the ones that aren't heavily scanlated don't sell either

There's so many manga titles around, it is absolutely not worth it to own them physically at all.
Might as well just read a low quality scan from an online source to know what the newest chapter is telling about.

I don't even read manga.

>reeeeee
Go back with him too.

I import manga from Japan all the time though in its original language :^)

You sound triggered.

>what is shounenshit
Nuke the thread already.

literally me

Don't license stuff that's already been translated for free then

I have no idea what you're trying to say about shonenshit, but shonen is highly scanlated and is probably what sells best in the west. Coincidence??

Because official translations of manga are frequently inaccurate, or just generally poorly made. nine times out of ten I'd rather read the fan translation.

Before I started learning Japanese I could just read scanalations for free, and now I buy raws instead.

I'd love an e-ink reader with a proper screen size for manga reading. That would be the tits, but it doesn't currently exist.

>shounen is most heavily scanlated genre
>shounen are highest sellers

really made me think

What about subscription based online streaming?

That seems to be the way to go here in the west. We pay for convience, not for the product.
Also having to pay everytime is a horrible way of selling things, it justs adds barriers to your product. The "pay once and it'll automatically come from your bank acount every month" is far, far, superior.

Physical products is just for die hard fans anyway.

And we're very grateful for your scanlations, dear esteemed chinese pirates who get the manga releases before even the Japanese themselves.
Fight-o!
For free market.

Scanlated yuri manga tends to do well. Maybe they should focus on only bringing across yuri.

It's literally publishers fault that most of their titles won't sell. In my cunt they always fucking wait until the title is finished and popular in the west so they can publish them monthly in tanks.

It's too expensive, a single volume of translated manga costs $12, where as a volume of manga in Japan costs more like $4. I also don't re-read manga that often so I can't justify spending that much.

>t. Manga Publisher Panel
Why should I trust what evidence these guys are giving me. Is it an unbiased study? And if they really want to increase sales, they should provide a better service. It's current year and we still have fanlations providing much faster translations than the actual businesses overcharging for physical products.

Also do we have a study for how scanlations affect sales of other manga-related merchandise such clothing, keychains, and figurines?

The west itself is to blame for its own shit taste for not encouraging manga culture. The east is to blame for publications and adpting bad manga.
Anime and secondary fags are the cancer that is killing anime.

I'd buy them digitally if they were easily available. I don't have room to go physical.

> Shounen manga

If they provided a digital service with timely translations I be more than willing to use and pay for them. I have no desire for physical copies and much less for the waiting for overseas licensing and printing.

But they have 7 SOLID years of data, user. I hope you're not implying they're trying to blame their own failures on some weeaboo in his underwear that does it for free.

Seriously, when you're getting BTFO by some teenage neckbeards that do it for free, you need to take a long hard look at what you're doing wrong as a business.

>grateful for your scanlation
HAHAHHAHA

I am
t. frog

>Why aren't westerners buying manga?
More expensive compared to the Japanese editions, and translations especially Viz are shit.

Buying manga in general is a stupid idea since the physical copies fuck up the doublespreads.

>is heavily scanlated
>sells better than anything else

truly makes one ruminate...

I only manga that I like, I ain't buying stuff without knowing it will suck or not.

>Much better and different feel to read the real thing
Keep telling yourself that while I look at my gigantic, non-localized scanlations, that I didn't have to get from some Jew.

>scanlate manga
>7 years later it gets a translation
>wonder why no one buys it

>Buy one translated tank in my country for about 5 dolans
>import a shitton of complete series from rakuten for about 1USD per tank once or twice a year

>reeeeee
>Sup Forums-kun telling others to go back where they came from
Oh the irony.

>refuse to bring over series because there's no interest
>turns out there was, and fans scanlation'd it
>bitterly publish an official physical release years later
>no one buys it
oy vey
why aren't western fans supporting manga?

In Latvia there is no where that Im aware off where I can buy them. Im not gonna order manga online.
If I could find where to buy and if it was affordable I would buy it. So far I dont know a single shop where I can find some.

Stop making shitty-ass Sup Forums-tier threads you fucking retarded brain-damaged tranny nigger. Twitter threads are all shit threads.

>we have data
>doesn't present the data
bullshit

>twitter shit
Go back there

What does the term 'heavily scanlated' even mean?

It's solid data, you don't need to see it.

Basically everyone reads One Piece online so the official english version sells like shit, except it don't.

I'd probably buy more LN translations if they adapted more stuff I liked. I already have the full Spice and Wolf english LN release.

but I bought the omnibuses for Love Hina and Air Gear today, feels good

I'll soon have 1000 mangas in my library.

What should I buy for the 1000th title?

Pretty much this. They're looking for a no-risk low-effort low-cost cashgrab and they throw a hissy fit when they find out they can't get away with that kind of bullshit.

>I don't read LOL
idiot

Seriously though who the fuck is buying all this shonen manga? You would think if you were a weeb that made it to adulthood and secured a job they wouldn't be buying the most entry-level of entry-level shit.

using a heavy scanner cause change results

Ayako

What about series like Hero Academia and Monster Musume that regularly top the American sales charts, and arguably owe their popularity to scanlation? What about them?!

What a worthless post, you really showed him

>Is it an unbiased study?
I understand what you're saying, but you have to realize that if companies didn't commission studies to be done, a lot of them just wouldn't happen in the first place.
I'm not taking a side, just pointing out that companies are the ones that have both the interest and the money for research.
A study being funded by a group with a vested interest doesn't necessarily make it biased, you have to take it case by case.

>manga is the only thing that can be read
dummy

This has been proven as a bait already. In the same day other publisher said that scanlations actually don't really matter that much mostly because people buying physical copies and people reading scanlations are two different groups with only minimal overlap.

Nips should buy nip and Americans should buy American. It's that simple.

I'm from Chile and spanish translations fucking suck because they are made by filthy beaners.

Not included in the 7 SOLID years of business failure.

This study was suppressed, yes, but here's the question; was the study actually true? It could've been complete bullshit, and we won't know until people go over it.

People like free things. I've pirated things I've loved before because I lacked the money. I'm sure there are billionaires who pirate. It's impossible for it to not hurt the sales, even a little.

People pay good money for nostalgia.
I buy raw manga, and although I never paid for Naruto, I did read it to the end because I wanted to see how my favorite middle school manga ended.
It's not that big of a stretch from there to see how someone could care enough to buy Naruto, One Piece, etc.

Amazon proves them wrong.

Because not everybody can afford to buy everything.

Why do publishers and the likes have such a hard time grasping this concept? Manga in particular is saturated as fuck with garbage. This exact behaviour triggered the video game crash in the 80's. Not everybody has the money to buy everything they want or the time to sift through the garbage.

You just need to look at the top selling franchises to see this. The ones that sell well sell incredibly well and the ones that sell okay are not even on the same level.

Manga also has a big problem in that the long running series are too long running. If a manga is 5 or 6 volumes long that is okay but you have shit like One Piece and Detective Conan that take up literal entire shelves on their own. Maybe publishers should work on that too.

>expensive as fuck translation
>not even in english but in shit-tier german
>mostly FOTM manga
Yeah nah.

Crunchyroll and viz does that digitally though

>A study being funded by a group with a vested interest doesn't necessarily make it biased, you have to take it case by case.

Technically you're right, but in reality they're almost guaranteed to be biased and you should probably go in with that mindset.

But you're right though, pretty much every big study is funded with an agenda in mind. The ones that don't suit the narrative get thrown out.

Companies all want to scan all their fucktons of documents for better archival and retrieval, because there's too many paper now existing, and trying to find the physical documents is too much of a hassle.
Same might be true for customers. There's so many manga and comics around, it starts being easier to simply read a digital version of it instead of buying a physical copy and storing it somewhere after having read it.

Cost for tankobon is fucking absurd in Canada.

Manga is actually pretty standarized when it comes to numbers. Most of my collection consist of 8 volume series.

This isn't capeshit, shounen has the the highest level of competition and cancellation rate which breeds quality.

>Basically $15 for a manga volume and almost 20 for a LN

Yeah its fucking horrible over here.

I'm sympathetic to your skepticism, but it's not impossible. Theoretically it's possible that the piracy raised more awareness of a products quality that translated into sales than sales lost from people that were otherwise going to buy.

I'm not saying this is always the case or even usually the case of course, but it's a possibility.

>implying the "professional" translators would ever bring me stuff like "rumble of scientific triumph" or "loli spilling noises"