It's over bigots, can't deny science any longer

it's over bigots, can't deny science any longer

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Chromosomes determine hormones, which determine sex....

unless you are being bathed in artificial hormones from a jewish chemical warfare operation, of course...

They they will blame it on you to hide their involvement.

>23rd pair of chromosomes
>always either xx or xy
>super rare cases of xxy and xyy
also she said middle school biology, they teach it at undergraduate and graduate level biology

>Thanks to the wonders of modern chemistry, we now have concentrated and injectable male and female hormones! Checkmate, nature!

Also, she literally states that chromosomes unlock certain genes which go on to produce hormones. Ergo, chromosomes = sex.

>boils down to male and female reproducing
>females can't reproduce with females
>Males can't reproduce with males
>"But we have to consider this organization for the purpose of reproduction bullshit. The reason why is because it interferes with mental delusions that people prefer to indulge in."

Okay then. There's only two functional genders. The others are sexualities, or mental illness.

>Also, she literally states that chromosomes unlock certain genes which go on to produce hormones. Ergo, chromosomes = sex.

Unless of course you are inundated with artificial hormones in the womb by a jewish chemical warfare operation, of course.

>Sex doesn't determine gender

>male and female hormones!
So they admit there are 2 genders of hormones.

sex vs gender is just a semantics game

(((French)))

>xy here followed by a wall of bullshit
it's like a Sup Forums post

People who don’t think their sex and gender are the same have a mental disorder plain and simple

There are several genes that determine sex. The very most important one is SRY that stands for Sex- determining Region of the Y chromosome. The lack of Y chromosome in spermatozoa determines female sex while Y chromosome determines male sex. If the SRY gene determines sex the chromosome in which that gene is determines sex. Pretty easy to be fair.

Biochemist.

Exactly.

Fucking kek

10/10

By that logic
>The holocaust didn't happen. I know that middle school history told you it did, but nope. A single Jew in power starts a cascade of events involving citizens all over the land to revolt. When any of that changes, surprise!

>Capitalism and communism may not match. And we're STILL not talking about national socialism.

isnt that this pokemon from pokemon gold?

Rare Unow chart confirmed

daaaang hahah, reposted to /r/MurderedByWords! Simply epic!

Trans rights are human rights!

There are rare cases, but statistically x and y chromosome has a HUGE influence on your sex, and statistically your sex has a HUGE influence on your gender.
Yes, two aren't the same, yes there might be rare cases where they act irregularly, but they are NOT a spectrum, and they ARE related to each other. They are NOT independent from each other.

We don't deny that humans have 46 chromosomes just because some people have Down Syndrome.
And she claims to be a scientist. Shit like this really makes me furious.

Actual biologist here.

SRY gene on Y chromosome upregulates SOX9 gene, in turn up-regulating fgf9 production.

wnt4 and fgf9 are hormones which determine sex.

The events occur in the genital ridge. If wnt4 is in higher ratio to fgf9 then the female cascade is induced, and if fgf9 is higher than wnt4 then the male cascade is induced. Knocking out different genes in the pathway causes different defects. Specific mechanisms are in place to force either wnt4 or fgf9 dominance - failure to do so results in ovotestes.

Other intersex conditions are either physical defects which make observing sex ambiguous, abnormal chromosomal differences (not really "intersex" at all, still determines correctly), or interference within the cascade which causes ambiguous features.

She's chatting shit, physical sex is determined almost completely by hormones which are in turn controlled by genes - the gene specifically responsible for inducing the male cascade typically being found on the Y chromosome.

Absolutely pitiful attempt at using science to demand authority over the general public rather than using it to enlighten them.

The 5000+ likes she got by bots and shills still doesn't change the facts.

(((Twitter))) exists not to share opinion, but to SHAPE opinions.

>If wnt4 is in higher ratio to fgf9 then the female cascade is induced, and if fgf9 is higher than wnt4 then the male cascade is induced.

the genitals aren't the only place where the male/female cascade is induced....

And in the presence of artificial hormones, places closest to the genital ridge are effected the least, with limbs, head, etc, being effected the most.

Hence, male body, female brain.

Those are all good points, except for gender. Sex is defined as the biological differences between men and women. Gender is defined as the psychological and social differences between men and women. So, arguing that Gender is non-biological is not wrong. But it is circular. In other words, to avoid begging the question you have to actually explain why it is appropriate to use the term "gender" instead of "sex" in other words, how you know something is socially constructed instead of biological.

Let me go ahead and explain the baffling levels of ignnorance and stupidity in your government:

>OMG, these chemicals are turning so many people in our population gay and transgender, what do we do?

>How about we remove the chemicals from the food and water supply?

>That's silly, let's just keep killing the victims, instead of solving the problem!

holy shit boys I found the og tweet. 120k likes

>>That's silly, let's just keep killing the victims, instead of solving the problem!

good goyim.

>female "scientist"

hah hah hah

>american professors

The hormones which affect the entire body are generated primarily in the genital ridge. Other SOX genes play roles in sex determination - SOX 1 and 2 for example play roles in neurodevelopment.

Consider the genital ridge a component that determines the sex for the rest of the body to follow, and controls it via the hormones it produces.

Also put that trip away, there's no reason to be using it.

hahahahaah
all this because they don't want to talk about all the white children getting raped by muslims
it's time we start cutting off heads of these traitors
RISE UP
come on jefe sessions
time to cut some commies
LET THE BLOOD FLOW

BuT WhAt If Ur A MuTanT
CHECKMATE

>If any of those changes, surprise!
those are called called diseases. Androgen insensitivity syndrome, 5 alpha reductase deficiency, adrenal hyperplasy. All of those are correctable diseases, they do not change sex but rather they warp it.

>Chromosomal and somatic sex may not match
this is an exception, not a rule.

>Gender is a psychological and emotional identity
and even within this realm of psychology, biological sex is part of a person's gender.

>Intersex and ambiguously sexed individuals
again, these are diseases. Since the chromosomes and hormones are in disorder they also carry further medical complications and thus should be corrected.

>sex is mostly hormonal.
and these hormones are regulated through the expression of information within the DNA, therefore they're chromosomal

Looks to me like this "genetiscitst" got too exited by a high school level biology book.

>The hormones which affect the entire body are generated primarily in the genital ridge.

Yes, and that means the place on the body which is effected PRIMARILY and MOSTLY by the hormones produced in the genitals, are near the genitals.

Thus, any external hormones introduced to the developing fetus, would effect the genitals the LEAST, and the rest of the body MORE, depending on how far away from the genitals they are... yes?

>Also put that trip away, there's no reason to be using it.

No reason that YOU know, no...

>BuT WhAt If Ur A MuTanT

Moronic white people in charge, falling for jewish tricks that tell them to kill more white people.

Most of her twitter posts have just a handful of likes.
Telling me, real people don't give a shit about her opinion.

I guess the bots and shills only swarm when she's pushing an agenda.

DAX1 duplication can result in XY females

Yes I know - my post wasn't refuting yours, I was supporting it.

>this 1% means the 99% is invalid
fucking liberals

>120k likes
Bots and shills pushing an agenda for Jews.

What a diversity hire.

Why is it such a leap to assume the Gender identity is determined by sex

DAX1 directly interferes with SOX9 up-regulation and henceforth the up-regulation of fgf9 hormone production.

if I remember correctly DAX1 was a transcription factor for the promoter of SOX9 which complemented with SRY, but I could be wrong about that.

>Gender describes the psychological and/or emotional identity
To be fair, that's not a completely asinine statement. It's why we have traps (very feminine looking men). However, she fails to address that just because someone looks/feels/behaves like a member of the opposite sex doesn't mean they get to become one. And sex is more important in society than perceived gender.

>this "genetiscitst"

she's some larping dropout or diversity hire

Separating sex and gender is also a social construct. And by that logic there is no reason for me to follow a social construct because there is no basis for it.
Yes social constructs exist but I wonder if they think about why social constructs are constructed or how they are constructed. I suppose that's too much to ask of a geneticist.

I'm implying that sex traits determine gender regardless of if gender is a social construct or not. Over large populations, XY people have certain biological sexual traits that impact how they interact with other people which is what determines their gender and visa versa. To say that gender is arbitrary because it is only based on a social construct is wrong.
I wish these people would stop using their degree as some sort of axiom because clearly they don't deserve to call themselves that.

>Yes I know - my post wasn't refuting yours, I was supporting it.

I wasn't detracting your supportive addition, I was adding to it.

We are in agreement, and together we are red pilling people!

isn't it fun!

I feel like we're preaching to the choir more than we are red-pilling, but I'll take it.

>chromosomes don't determine sex
>its something on the chromosome that determines sex
its argument by semantics.

>I feel like we're preaching to the choir more than we are red-pilling, but I'll take it.

me and you are the choir, because we have actually studied epigenetics...

everyone else is the congregation.

>an appreciable frequency
>1%
>oh btw I forgot to ignore how said individuals possess deformities and are infertile
I miss the time when science was science and not politics.

1. Chromossomes do determine sex
2. There is no such a thing as """gender"""

hormone levels are actually a spectrum, shitlord

>sex is mostly hormonal, not chromosomal
Oh, so that explains why trannies need to take hormones?

Gender is an expression of sex characteristics

Sex is the OBJECTIVE biological measure.

Finally someone gets it!

Sex = male/female
Gender = masculine/feminine

Stop trying to argue retarded shit like "there's no such thing as gender" or liberals will win the debate every time

It's not since mixed vagina and penis aren't common. Spectrum implies middle ground

There isn't.
English is literally the ONLY language to use such term.

So in other words, he is a communist geneticist.

i want to be a SCIENCE PROFESSOR!

look if you're born with a penis you're male, regardless of what your chromosomes are

Lysenkoism is called

The human body can create two gametes;
1) Egg
2) Sperm

No matter what aberration you have in your genetic code, no matter if you have a dick and vagina, you will never produce both. You will be set up to produce only one, or be infertile. Thus, all humans are either male or female, even the most hermaphroditical.

More than that, all variations come at a cost to sexual fitness. It's as useful to have ambiguous sex as it is to be born with half your arms or a pair of extra legs hanging off you like dead weight. It's a genetic mistake.

What if your penis is hidden, or didn't formed well?
ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/5-alpha-reductase-deficiency
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

Not because you're born in a certain way means it's correct. Mistakes do happen.

Yea, but every male should look to an extent a certain way, as should every female. The "Gender Spectrum" is a meme, because of the simple fact that if you have a dick and balls you will be stronger, more aggressive, more objective=more intelligent than if you were a female.

Plain and simple user.

Genetics is literally the forefront of science at the moment, and speaking to simply science, Men that can't grown beards are not lesser men than those who've had one since 12, just like women who have small breast are not lesser than those with large breast.

That doesn't mean if you have a cock you you're a girl because you "FEEL" like it. You do realize you could never know what it's like to feel like a woman, simple because you don't know what it's like to have sex AS A woman.

That’s bitch should have her PhD revoked for spouting such fucking retarded nonsense. Intersex and ambiguous people are rare as fuck and aren’t genders, but genetic mistakes.

Then we call it a mistake and move on
Aberrations dont get to become standards

>chromosomes determine sex
>gender is different tho, it's whatever u feelz like

This whore's argument in a nutshell. Thousands of retards think that this is in any way enlightening. Nuke this dumb Earth.

>more intelligent
no it doesn't mean by default
there are just as many utter morons as geniouses
a woman should not be put down just because she is a woman
let the exceptional people develop their talents to the fullest extent

Yes, but if you speak fatalistically like that, it's basically like you're begging to be called out on exceptions. Choose your words better because science and medicine is not concrete and very open to exception.

>Chromosomes don't determine sex.
Every bio class I took between grade school and grad school begs to differ.

#1 Sex and gender are literally the same thing. This buffoon is just perverting science to fit a postmodern cultural marxist paradigm that was initially developed for the expressed purpose of destroying society.

#2 Sex is literally determined by the sex chromosomes. Certainly there are other things at work, but the most fundamental unit of sex are the twenty third pair.

This bitch is literally the dumbest geneticist ever.
IF YOU HAVE A Y CHROMOSOME YOU ARE MALE
That's literally the only thing that matters. What you look like and what you feel like are utterly irrelevant.

Sup Forums is more like

>a wall of bullshit
>t. xy

You can’t bring intersex people into the discussion of gender/sex and act like it’s a valid point. These “scientists” are retarded.

sex is genotype... not phenotype
If you have a Y you are male /story

Where the fuck did you go to school?

the true exceptions (IE people with physiological disorders) get to counted as mistakes
The rest are just confused or mentally ill

I do not deny that they exist, I merely want to focus our efforts on finding a way to cure rather then playing pretend

>physical sex is mostly hormonal not chromosomal

yea ok see if your estrogen supplements ever grows you a dicknballs

They might not be lesser men or women, but there is a perceptible difference between people who are less or more masculine/feminine than others.

I'm of the opinion that we should concede that gender is indeed a spectrum, but it is only a 1 dimensional scale with two endpoints: masculinity and femininity.

this is why you should be on twitter educating the masses. I am on twitter daily as it is the white man's burden to civilize the world, as a brit your ancestors knew that well and formed an empire. You must now colonize the cyberspace.

This shatters the illusion that this could possibly be solved peacefully...

These people are way too brainwashed to ever be liberated from their death cult.

Kys

its all semantics and irrelevant classification if gender and or sex matter. Some men are more manly than other men, some women more feminine. Who cares? Believing you're a gender that you're not born as is just a mental illness. I make no distinction between gender and sex, why would I? For me gender/sex are interchangable because they determine the exact same thing: I befriend males, I sleep with females. I do not care what you identify as that rule never changes.

>give them an inch
Guess what happens next.

I can get on board with this.

kek

>geneticist here
>my position means my opinion is final and indisputable
She isn't a scientist. She's a bishop of the Church of Science.

a ⇒ b
b ⇒ c
a ⇒ c
really makes you think

>there is a perceptible difference between people who are less or more masculine/feminine than others.

Agreed

Women are built to complement men, because GOD put us into a reality that put MEN before WOMEN... and WOMEN get to raise the next generation of MEN. How is that now beautifully proportional? How is this not the way things should be?

> arguing that Gender is non-biological is not wrong

Yes it is because the differences between men and women are largely biological. Gender and sex are by no means vary independently of each other. The whole gender vs sex debate is pure sophistry based on ignoring blindingly dominant trends and focusing on an exceedingly small number of defects and outliers. A big part of it is also confusing gender with personality.

>soyboy PhD
>faggotry agenda
>twitter
>sucess!

Epso facto detrminto reguraus nomanie quid pro quo
Chromosomes determine sex. She said they don't but then goes on a long rant which concludes that they do in fact determine sex

>IT's the CAR that hits people, the driver doesn't matter!!!

t.you

The tweeter isn't wrong but much like the "THERE WERE BLACK PEOPLE IN 18TH CENTURY RUSSIA BECAUSE THERE WAS THIS ONE GUY SO THAT MEANS YOU SHOULD HAVE BLACKS PEOPLE EVERYWHERE" is stupid. You should be able to effectively ignore insignificant fractions of a percentage of people.

It's even much less than 1%

More proof that women are retarded.

^

But you just don't understand user. I have this cock that just feels aliens, because girls don't like me and it'd be so much easier to be a girl!

Because there's this exceedingly small minority of individuals whose sex doesn't match their gender identity, and we don't wanna be bigoted against them, so let's ignore the glaringly obvious causal relationship.