Christ and Christianity

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Ask ANY questions you may.
Most especially encouraged to participate are non-believers and naysayers, anyone NOT a Christian.

Please, come in and express any doubts or thoughts WHATSOEVER.

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Hello?
come on someone/anyone, lets discuss the most important subject that CAN be discussed.

>Most especially encouraged to participate are non-believers and naysayers, anyone NOT a Christian.
Everyone but Atheist.

Atheist are the worst people and will burn in hell.
They're Marxist in soul and will never stop until the destruction of the West and his Church

How do you combat lust?

Is the bible better used as rolling paper or toilet paper?

Fact: Christianity is the most anti-white religion in existence. Prove me wrong

wauowwwwoh so edgy!

You sure told me with le hat maymay.

okay

I've heard of people smoking their way into the Kingdom before. God can even use your puerile arrogance, mate.

Just remember, before long, you die.

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HEY folks, sorry Im a bit late and behind

>Everyone but Atheist.

WHAT??!
NO
they are among those in most dire need of the Gospel

>Atheist are the worst people and will burn in hell.

but apparently not as badly as you
:(

>They're Marxist in soul and will never stop until the destruction of the West and his Church

you need Prayer, sleep, and to calm yourself and seek Christ, and much reading of the Word

Oh wow... you read my mind
that is among my most very difficult struggles, myself
im 37 and havent even had so much as a date
terrible, terrible porn addiction
it is a wicked, demonic nightmare

do this:
Pray, seek Christ, read the Word, and keep yourself busy with productive things that keep your mind off of it at all times

BUT MOST OF ALL
seek and acquire a wife WITHIN the Church, a humble, pious, God fearing woman

please be serious
and not absurd and childish/brattish

?????

same goes for you as trouble maker above
but you make even less sense

how bored are you?

I'm talking about actually existing Christianity, not your larp interpretation believed by you and two other people on the internet.

Praise the father,the son and the holy spirit
>Tfw reading the bible right now taking breaks to school pagans and atheist

dont even engage such ridiculous nonsense gibberish bating/trolling

CANT YOU PEOPLE JUST BE SERIOUS

another brat
thanks for being so counter productive

if you hate jews so much, you must clearly see the greatness and righteousness of Christ in that his fellow jews seethed with hatred hot and bitter enough to torture him to death despite the real possibility he was the Son of God

go away

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i try to live as Christ commands but just cant. my lust greed and need for revenge are too strong to overcome. i am one of those who say "lord lord" but dont do as He says. probably going to hell

Why do you believe in a God when there is 0 evidence?

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How do Catholicucks defend this?

>it's okay to rob, rape, and murder tens of thousands of other Christians because the pope said so

No such thing as god, sorry.

God separated the races after He destroyed the tower of Babel.

How do you reconcile your belief in God with the information available to humanity today? How much of the Bible do you think is true?

PAGANG IS IN THE THREAD TONIGHT
CHRISTIANPOSTERS GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME

If God exists why do kids get raped and molested by priests ?

Because Christians are gay by nature

Jokes on you, the later is believing in science, in which a large number of scientists conclude multiverse theory to be the most likely. In that case with an infinite amount of universes possible God would be in one, by default transcending universes he would be in all
> checkmate
> fedora tip

Not the best Christian anymore, I still call myself a Christian, but I now believe that God truly does little to effect us, and he is just there to judge us for our lifes. I find myself thinking of Vlad Tepes lately, and have decided to base my life off of his.
If I go to hell for it, then so be it, I rather be in hell with the Crusaders then in heaven with hippies.

>The Swedish armies alone may have destroyed up to 2,000 castles, 18,000 villages, and 1,500 towns in Germany, one-third of all German towns.

The Thirty Years War, fought over religious interpretations, killed almost half of the German Population.

You didn't answer my question.

Can someone ban this faggot already, he spammed this in over 20 threads by now.

reminder that we are brothers united against the ((real enemy))
Jesus is a very important figure in Islam, perhaps on par with Muhammad.

There’s people who uses causes for bad, every religion, ever political ideology, when something powerful is introduced to humans it’s often abused

It's judaism though.

Not even Christianity promised you that you'd never be molested.

Don't be sorry, just try and make the most of your meaningless existence before you return to dust!

Redpill me on Quakers, also what's the best denomination and why is it Serbian orthodox?

>worshiping the ubiquitous nazarene

I was serious. I'm not talking about potheads having visions. I'm talking about people who stole a Bible to use as rolling paper, and encountered the word of God in it.

Isaiah 55:11, so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.

Why are churches against their host nations?

[citation needed]

he does expect you to be perfect, of course

nor to TRY to be perfect

not even to ATTEMPT to be righteous

ALL that he needs in you is the DESIRE to want to attempt to be righteous, that alone is enough of a seed for him to form of you, in time, a truly and fully righteous servant in mind, heart and action, a bright beacon of his light

the transformation does not happen in a day or few

just the desire to try to be righteous is PLENTY enough

that says that, no matter how small it seems, Christ HAS you, and will lead you Him with certainty, in due time

>my lust greed and need for revenge are too strong to overcome.

yes, they are, without Him at least
his transformation of you will eventually have unimaginable results if you keep trying, hold to Him, pray and read the Word, and be patient for Him to work his miraculous sculpting of your Soul (mind)

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(be serious)

you too
what is so difficult about that?

well think about it, if YOU placed some living HUMAN MAN in a place in your heart equal to Christ, a command from him is exactly equal to Words from the Son of God himself

insanity, but that is the logic

grand, now you just need to substantiate that

hint:
not ONLY is there no proof either way, there CANNOT be, and that is just as it is meant to be during this era of the earth

FINALLY someone asking a really good and decent, HONEST and engaging theological question

the vast majority of my evidence is empircal, but within my own mind

I dont even have "beliefs" any more, but rather certain and concrete knowledge

Further, i do not hold even ONE iota of the Word to be untrue whatsoever

no joke.

But MUCH more than that, I know that there is a true Church, a single Church, on earth NOW that is THE true Church of God and His son

& that of course angels & demons do indeed exist & move among us, almost ALWAYS unseen of course, but sometimes as humans and even sometimes possessing humans

In Genesis 4: 15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so[e]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,[f] east of Eden.

Who were the Others, and why is Nod a proper noun?
Were there other people? Does this make Adam and Eve not the first homo-sapiens?

>Quakers
Their gone, the real ones anyway, take it from someone who lived near their remaints, the real ones are so low in numbers they will be gone soon.

Serbian Orthodox Church, unlike the Latin faggots, remembers the last time pislam invaded Europe, and are more then happy to kill the enemy.

>(be serious)

Not good enough. Why do you believe there is a God?

>there is 0 evidence
Nice meme

Illegal immigration (example 1)... accepting homos as the norm (example 2)...

thats a very high level and needlessly specific version of THE most common question by unbelievers (and even among many/most believers as well!)

the question reduces to this:
"Why does pain exist?"

Here is your answer:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
a summary is somewhat difficult

100% free to read and download from/at MANY sites online

do you really desire a summary of the situation/reason/cause from me?
just ask

BEGONE

the true Church of God, the remnant Church reconciles ALL science and knowledge and Scripture and doctrine TOGETHER

it is the only Church on earth that makes as much sense to the heart/soul/emotions as it ALSO does to the intellect

every other Church practially requires you to SHUT OFF you mind to hold their beliefs/doctrines/practices/etc which are entirely absurd and nonsensical and irrational to the mind


you need much prayer and strength and renewing of your spirit

Why is god such an asshole? Seriously, why does he give us natural disasters, deadly plagues, cancer, mental illness, etc. How can a truly benevolent god punish his children for sins that are admittedly minor by LITERALLY MURDERING MILLIONS OF THEM, even the ones who are dedicated to him?!?

So Like how come everyone here is so anti-Jew and christian?
Like how do you know Paul of Tarsus wasn't actually ancient (((controlled op)))?
Like how are you so sure at least a huge part of Christianity isn't Jewish tricks?

A very serious reminder: Salvation is only through gnosis

further:
there is much evidence
proof is impossible however, as that only has absolute meaning in math

little to NONE of the evidence is empirical and incontrovertible

which is where internal evidence comes in

it is as impossible to describe to a nonbeliever as the experience of site is to a blind man

nevertheless, the entire universe indeed SCREAMS to attestation of the fact it has a divine supreme being as its creator and caretaker

I never trusted Saul/Paul. One of Caesars goons gets a change of heart all of a sudden? Not buying it. I smell a schlomo.

You're spot on, freind. Christianity IS Jewish tricks.

>there is much evidence
What evidence?

I'm not a Judeo Christian, I think the OT is mostly inherited traditions from Mesopotamia, and later a rather exhaulted version of Jewish history.

As for Christin Doctrine, I believe the entirety of Jesus' message was summed up in the Lords Prayer

Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come; your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our bread for tomorrow;
Refresh our souls with the water of life.
And forgive us every one our debts
As we also have forgiven our debtors.
Save us in temptation, deliver us from evil,
And increasingly make us perfect like yourself.

(There are multiple variants, all pretty similar, all with the same meaning)


His entire message was of the will of his Father in Heaven, and Faith that he will sustain you.

Much of Christianity today is about Jesus' miracles, however Jesus never wanted peoples faith to be based in Christs Miracles, as that would detract from the glory of the Father.

Mark 7:36 36 Jesus commanded them not to tell anyone. But the more he did so, the more they kept talking about it.
Matthew 16:20 20 Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.
Matthew 8:4 4 Then Jesus said to him, "See that you don't tell anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift Moses commanded, as a testimony to them."

yeah thats weird, maybe he meant the first of his people. our they were npcs. like store owners.

>Jesus called out the wicked jews day and night endlessly and exposed they're betrayal of God and his word
>Jews being so desperate and afraid of this bitched at the Romans to kill this man until they did
>They thought that would be the end of it
>Jews do everything they can to attack Christianity
>It's all Jewish tricks lmao
Oh look it's the Gnostic HERETIC from yesterday
Still thinking you can achieve salvation by your own means? Hahahahahahahahahaha

salvation?
yeah, you mean oblivion
if you abuse your creator-endowed gift of free choice and follow that scientology-teir lie from the mouth of the dragon

>So Like how come everyone here is so anti-Jew and christian?

because it is HUGELY thrilling to the ego to hold a "universally" unacceptable position on some cultural/political issue wherein you are alone with but a small few fellows in your glorious quest against an insurmountable enemy

this is true of almost every "fringe" or "radical" position one may hold relative to any culture/society/era

most of that is the direct hand of the dragon

see:
(1st answer)

oh for heavens sake
you speak as one presently quite high flying on the same substance that you speak

yes?>
did you have some sort of point?

return to dust and nothing more only if you CHOOSE oblivion (anything other than Christ)

nope
not united
NOT together
you deny his divinity, which is a sin like any other

every example of which was/is a source of the cause that nailed Him to that cross

islam is fantasy tale from the dragon, allah is a figment of that very same adversary

The implications of it are that the earth really did evolve, and there was no 6 day creation.

I personally am an old earth Christian, well old universe. I feel Colossians 1:15-20 and John 1 both support that conviction. However, it breaks tradition.

>Answered a question I wasn't asking.
I said why is everyone here anti-jew AND christian, not ANTI-Christian, and you didn't answer the real QUESTION about Paul of Tarsus Being a Jew Plant.

Saul/Paul is a phony

>Oh look it's the Gnostic HERETIC from yesterday
Still thinking you can achieve salvation by your own means? Hahahahahahahahahaha

that is not the attitude of Christ

be bold, assertive, hold to and express nothing but the Gospel and Truth, but never be demeaning, condescending, rude, insulting, sarcastic, cynical, bitter, etc

those are all antitheses of Christ's way and manner and means of engaging ANYONE but most especially non-believers

well yes, very much of it was, but not at all hardly ALL of it

little that is incontrovertible mind you

but I can just about read you mind by your few words

I know that you dismiss ALL of it as evidence of the God of Abraham as "easily explained away by natural/coincidental means"

You are the type that a believer can only say, try to bring yourself to seek Christ and read his Word, perhaps you will be receptive some day

the choice is yours
I dont say any of this with offensive intent, just saving time and energy for us both

so you have chosen death

he was a righteous and greatly (Holy) spiritually gifted prophet and servant of the Savior
dont think/say such things about him

>If God doesn't adhere to my personal morality then he's bad
Typical commie

Challenge to the whole thread, for everyone:

Can you guess what the remnant and true and extant Church of Christ is on earth RIGHT NOW?

if you need hints let me know
every guess away I will let you know when you get it

one hint to start, it is just about the "lowest" Church there is:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_church

My point is that you are a jewloving autist.

DEFLECTION DETECTED.

So what, who cares what Jesus DID?
We are talking about PAUL and Him ultimately being as important or more so to the advent of Christianity's spread into Civilization.
ALSO you are an Idiot.
Claiming yourself to be the Messiah in Roman occupied Israel would mean you seek to overthrow Roman rule, ergo an enemy.
Plenty of people were killed by the romans for claiming to be a messiah and starting trouble for the Romans.

>Tarsus Being a Jew Plant.

ok....
i wont because that is so absurd I cannot fathom even trying to entertain it as a valid question

just.... absurd

indeed
that is merely given your axioms and accepted evidence, that is the best and most rational conclusion

you need a different set of axioms and further evidence

I literally asked about this and the 2 Dogmatic Christians didn't answer it and instead changed the topic.

I've lurked Christian threads for a while, but could someone tell me how to pray? How to humble myself enough for God to strike a spark of faith in me? Thanks. No troll/jew replies pls.

Why is it absurd?
Do you not believe they have ever infiltrated anything ever?
Paul literally goes from Killing Christians to Leading them in no time at all, seems like (((pure coincidence)))

ok
reality check
nothing, NOTHING is a great force, both real and psychological/spiritual behind the Gospel and its spread and power than Christ, with possible exception of the Helper (the Holy Spirit)

However you want is fine.

Is there any evidence of Paul being an apostle other than his self-proclamation as such?

>nevertheless, the entire universe indeed SCREAMS to attestation of the fact it has a divine supreme being as its creator and caretaker

>divine supreme being
>jew tribal god
Pick one.

>Sup Forums
>No Troll or Jew replies
I think you are confused as to the nature of this Nigerian Boogey Boarding Forum.

If you want to pray, it starts with that piece inside that is connected to the source of all, you should be able to feel it. You should think about what you're grateful for and go from there.

Pro-tip, Prayer isn't for God it is for you to feel better,healthier and more adjusted.

>why would you want to withhold salvation from me?

you replied to wrong post

>you think this is a fucking game?

take a breath, and post a correction so we know which post you MEANT to reply to

so very, very productive

thanks for coming here and posting!

>Do you not believe they have ever infiltrated anything ever?

various childish fallacies
*zzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

>Paul literally goes from Killing Christians to Leading them in no time at all, seems like

have you even read the scriptures?

if you "decide" all of the divine stuff ascribed to his path in life and transformation, then suddenly you can imagine any conspiracy scenario (or any thing at all really) that you wish!

but if you really choose to disregard the divine events and encounters he had that set him on the right path, than there is no use in talking to you at all about it

you question was as valid and productive as "do you think he farted often?"

nope
but im not putting forth anything more substantial than that statement because it would be like casting bread before FECES

It was only natural that the cult of renunciation and humiliation should have paid attention to sexual gratification. The continence cult originated as a ritual among soldiers prior to engaging in battle; in later days it became the practice of "saints." This cult tolerated marriage only as an evil lesser than fornication. Many of the world's great religions have been adversely influenced by this ancient cult, but none more markedly than Christianity. The Apostle Paul was a devotee of this cult, and his personal views are reflected in the teachings which he fastened onto Christian theology: "It is good for a man not to touch a woman." "I would that all men were even as I myself." "I say, therefore, to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them to abide even as I." Paul well knew that such teachings were not a part of Jesus' gospel, and his acknowledgment of this is illustrated by his statement, "I speak this by permission and not by commandment." But this cult led Paul to look down upon women. And the pity of it all is that his personal opinions have long influenced the teachings of a great world religion. If the advice of the tentmaker-teacher were to be literally and universally obeyed, then would the human race come to a sudden and inglorious end. Furthermore, the involvement of a religion with the ancient continence cult leads directly to a war against marriage and the home, society's veritable foundation and the basic institution of human progress. And it is not to be wondered at that all such beliefs fostered the formation of celibate priesthoods in the many religions of various peoples.

No, in the Bible he is confronted by God while alone on a Journey.

Paul was antichristian

but was choosen and transformed into a veritable direct apostle of Christ himself, BY Christ

your whole post is on the level of some fantasy fan fiction yarn's premise

No no, a guy that kills people for a living is to automatically be trusted

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You are DUMB AF.
MANY THINGS were Great Forces in the Spread of Christianity.
For Example:
Would you not say the printing press was a Great Force in spreading literacy and Christianity?
Retard.

I know in my heart God created us, but I was looking for helpful advice from someone who isn't an empty vessel. I have abandoned the toxic atheism that you are selling, and shame unto you for your words in this thread.
Like how?

Shill. You know no truth or God.
If you cared about Truth or actually had REAL FAITH, you would seek it instead of hiding from the light.
The Truth need not fear inspection, Infidel.

I used to have doubts ... but "having doubts" makes you religious, the whole Bible is full of people with "doubts".

Now it's just that I think the religion of, let's call it, Technological Singularity, is the logical step forward of Christianity

What Christianity talks about (resurrection of the dead, eternal life, etc.) will all come to pass via the Technological Singularity

Praying to the sky was OK 1000 years ago, today, my "praying" takes the form of reading the laters news about DeepMind, Neuralink, OpenAI, Boston Dynamics, IBM, Nervana, Tencent, Baidu, Softbank, Intel, what have you.

Those are the angels that will usher the coming of the Kingdom

I am not an Atheist, I was telling you the Basics of personal prayer.
Every christian group prays differently so every group might take grievance with something I said, I just kept it as nondenominational as possible.
I described prayer in ways an atheist might grasp and the atheist dares call me infidel lol.

Pro tip: If you think being grateful to god is atheist, you don't understand faith.

take your mindless tin foil hattery elsewhere

the edgy trolls here are contributing as much as you

>MANY THINGS were Great Forces in the Spread of Christianity.

no body said otherwise

i was stating what the single GREATEST

english a problem?

>Would you not say the printing press was a Great Force in spreading literacy and Christianity?

what the hell?
a red herring... and for what?
do you need some sleep?

make sense
start by avoiding fallacies

>Mark 16:18
>they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.

So who's the first cuck to start drinking?

yay!

more meaningless spam!

you are an obnoxious child

The purpose of the apostles message, and Jesus' message was to bring us closer to the Heavenly Father.
Paul did a fine job, although he did *as you stated* bring baggage from his previous cult.

The people at this time were falling from monotheism, remember the times of Jesus. The entire region was run by the Sanhedrin courts.

God was an angry and jealous God who smites all of those who break laws or traditions. Jesus brought a message that was tradition breaking, and freed the Jews from the constrictions of their own laws. Allowing them to live their lives.

Sorry if I don't adhere to the same denomination as you.

Praise the lord snd be faithful, Brothers and sisters of Christ! WE ARE SAVED!

if you read the Bible literally, it makes no sense or it's crazy

it needs interpretation

>WE ARE SAVED
No, you aren't

>Nobody said otherwise
Yes, yes you did liar.
AND I QUOTE: "ok
reality check
nothing, NOTHING is a great force, both real and psychological/spiritual behind the Gospel and its spread and power than Christ, with possible exception of the Helper (the Holy Spirit)"

You Literally said Paul WASN'T one of the greatest if not the greatest forces in Christianity's advent, and then you lie and say you didn't say that?
I am not holding ANY FALLACIES, you are.
You can't even bring yourself to question a part of your faith you've never examined because you can't answer it without fear of your faith being destroyed.

>it needs interpretation
Kay
Here's my interpretation: The bible is a scam by the demiurge and your quest for hidden meanings is futile

Fatherhood of God
Sonship of Christ
Kingdom of Heaven
Brotherhood of Man

you dont even know what that verse means, not the context, not the intention, not the purpose, nothing

it is not for "showing off"

>So what, who cares what Jesus DID?
>Who cares what the single most important person in Christianity did

>We are talking about PAUL and Him ultimately being as important or more so to the advent of Christianity's spread into Civilization.
Paul isn't even close to importance compared to the Messiah
>ALSO you are an Idiot.
Nice ad hominem
>Claiming yourself to be the Messiah in Roman occupied Israel would mean you seek to overthrow Roman rule, ergo an enemy.
>Give to Cesar what belongs to him
>Overthrow Roman rule
Huh
>Plenty of people were killed by the romans for claiming to be a messiah and starting trouble for the Romans.
The jews forced the hand of the Romans to kill Jesus
In the eyes of the Romans,jesus wasn't a problem,its was the butthurt jews bitching and complaining endlessly because they knew Jesus was telling them the truth to they're faces