Transhumanist Party - The future is new genetically engineered species

Transhumanism Thread

Topic: Creating a new elven species to fork away from humanity and start clean. Using synthetic biology to create a new elven species is a near-term possibility. Do you agree with using genetic engineering to create a new better species?

benefits: Human history can't be tacked on to them. Can separate themselves from humanity in a clear way as being a different species rather than labeled as humans++.

Engineered traits - longevity, health, beauty, elven ears, tall height, slender, and maximal possible intelligence

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gene_synthesis
science.sciencemag.org/content/342/6156/357
statnews.com/2016/08/18/genetic-code-synthetic-life/
science.sciencemag.org/content/353/6301/819
twitter.com/NationofAnime/status/930524490722766848
twitter.com/NationofAnime/status/928690070713901056
twitter.com/NationofAnime/status/963107331117477888
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Some pop sci background

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gene_synthesis

Traits:
Virus Immunity
science.sciencemag.org/content/342/6156/357 (synthetic)
Tall height (present in humans)
Selnder (present in humans)
Elven Ears (Synthetically created)
max IQ (present in humans)
longevity (mix of human + Synthetic novel introductions)
beauty (present in humans)

Human-based traits could just be maximally selected. Giving them entirely new recoding will make them incompatible with humans sexually, another advantage of forking.
statnews.com/2016/08/18/genetic-code-synthetic-life/

Why elves? Public Relations Move also avoids baggaging the new species too much with human history and baggage. Gives them a clear identity even if fantastical and is easier for humanity to emotionally/psychologically deal with a new species being superior they have experience with.

The Egyptians wanted a race of catgirls.

Literally a meme until 400 years

science.sciencemag.org/content/353/6301/819

Do you follow what's happening or speaking out your ass?

>wants to be sissy elf
>doesn't want to be a fucking werewolf
Go be a cunty elf elsewhere.

Need a door-opener.

Furry Werewolf babies are not opening any doors. The idea of elves is just a marketing gimmick. Put some pointy ears on the new super-humans and spin it up for normies to gobble down. It's about making it more socially accepted. It's not actually about wanting elves. It's the fact humanity will go nuts over the idea of elves and love it up instead of rebel.

But why when you can never be one of them?

>Furry Werewolf babies are not opening any doors.
Europeans have wanted to be werewolves from the beginning. It's easily marketable.
No one will want a dinky elf.

If genetically-engineered humans ever become a reality I will dedicate myself to cleansing the Earth of these abominations of nature.

>be a feminine human with long ears
or
>be an exotic half man half wolf hybrid killing machine
I wonder what people would prefer.

Why not? Why would I benefit if this didn't happen?

It's just a thought experiment that humanity is now in control of it's evolution, creating a new species is beneficial for virus immunity reasons, and elves are simply more marketable for this purpose.

The only current proposal of anyone is simply creating better humans. Switching it to elves and thinking of it as a new species is an important mental framework to guide people on.

Elves also already have the traits we would want in engineered humans and will be easier to consume conceptually for people. Whether selling them the idea or gaining acceptance.

Over time you could introduce more concepts like arbitrary choices (cat girls, simple human++, etc)

If you are the first company offering a product though. Rich people gonna pay more for an elf.

The funny thing about that is that they will be smarter, more attractive, and stronger than you. There's 0 chance you could do it, because the difference between them and you is bigger than the difference between human and monkeys

>paying for elves
Severe unsolved ethical issues right there.

maximal neoteny
high IQ etc

They will be so manipulative and attractive it won't matter. Social capability alone would make them dominant. Tacking on the advantage of leveraging existing elf stereotypes and fantasy come to life edge...

On a basic social level though the fact they will be labeled Elves and not "super americans", "super chinese" etc is a huge advantage

I'm just assuming this tech will be done in a parent wanting a child and paying for improved reproductive service. Hence marketing of the product is important.

Still won't make the insectoids human.

Pretty sure Actual Humans would wipe them out before they posed any possible threat to our dominance

Gotta remember OP, we as a species are Fucking arseholes

Precisely why social manipulation is so important. Hence the elf narrative. High neoteny to manipulate the fuck out of humans. The point is to create something that can safely gain a foothold and replace humanity. The marketing is important.

just a note but simply GE'ed super humans would probably also not set off any alarms and create the same species wide replacement effect.

>implying satan didn't already create something called jews

Ahhhh good point though i'd still think in the end we'd Win

Good examples to learn from but jews (as a whole) are rapidly returning to average

This is regressivist trash

Sure

we have increasing control over our evolution
what do you imagine the next step being?

A new species is inevitable even if it's just humans but better. Why not take advantage of cleaning the slate and using the word elves to describe them. Frees them from any human history and takes advantage of existent views.

Super human aryan types have a pretty negative view. Not saying large enough to matter as genetically engineering new species will be so much better it won't matter. Just that this is simply a slightly better move.

Super Humans would work, though as you said the connotations about it are the problem

Elves though, we hate other Races in our species for minor reasons but adding a new Species Better than us and disconnecting them from Humanity if only socially.

Well i don't see that ending in any other way than violence.
I may just be used to thing going bad or over estimating our violent nature

Yeah, I just think there exist enough of a formulation of what elves are that it works. We wouldn't be as upset if elves out performed us in every way. I just imagine people would have more favorable views of them and certain aspects like race would be erased to some extent. More of a mental trick than anything.

What you said does hold a lot of great potential and would be amazing if it did happened.
(I would kill for a Elven Wife)

Sure, but its' literally just super human with pointy ears to trick everyone into liking them. People hold positive views of elves and wouldn't see them as racially or negatively.

ALA a dark-skinned elf would be viewed differently than a black human. It's simply a short circuit trick to make genetically engineered beings more palatable.

Lofty dreams of a purely imaginary utopian future.
But I suppose it's good to dream.

You do understand this is relatively conservative predictions? The branding of elf is arbitrary but human control over evolution is increasing exponentially.

Not to mention AGI progress...

Predicting a non-insane and non-fantastical seeming future is what retarded dreamers do.

Oh god yes.
All Elves would be viewed a lot better than Blacks and easily accepted.

Yes, it seems stupid and joke-ish at first.

Once you actually iterate through the thought experiment and self-test with your own bias how you would view "Elves" versus super humans you understand why it works.

Anyone here wanna be 80% gorilla 80% pig?

> fucking around with genetic code you barely understand
Cancer is on line 1, should I answer?

Already working on it

twitter.com/NationofAnime/status/930524490722766848

twitter.com/NationofAnime/status/928690070713901056

twitter.com/NationofAnime/status/963107331117477888

Alex Jones talked about chimeras and people said he was a crazy fuck

Whereas anyone with any clue lolled because he was correct but the cause was positive. The cattle public is too stupid to care about this. We are undergoing such fucking amazing things in our life times and the topic of discussion is literally inane shit for normies.

>barely understand
When your mother and father fucked, a relatively random process happened where a bunch of random DNA from each was combined to create you.

It's resilient to fuck ups and random combinations. Its' not fragile.

>transhuman
More like subhuman. AI waifus are the future and you know it.

We're already getting close to "Designer Babies" (Choosing Hair and Eye Colour) using Crispr, this would be a lot further down the chain when we have better understanding of Gene Manipulation

>he thinks any of this will be used benevolently or be affordable enough for anyone but the mega rich

>not rejoicing in humanity

>not realising (((transhumanism))) would ever be possible due to the inherent quality of humanity, then deciding to throw it away

a thread died for this

Smart Phones won't be available to anyone but the super rich.

What we need are flugels

Most people don't follow this, as the fact is technology has far outstripped our understanding of it, we are obsolete and the machine can do far more than we thing, just don't know it yet.

Hybrids could be a thing right now or in five years, the only thing stopping it is no one with the funds has tried.. Well minus the Chinese with their genetic research.

>being turned into a bio-bot for the Jew
meh, no thanks

I would happily give up my humanity for this
The homo sapiens species is inherently flawed
>Prone to diseases of all kinds(disorders, viruses, bacteria, protozoa, amoeba, cancer, etc.)
>Lives a short life
>Prone to brainwashing/manipulation
>Incapable of regenerating lost limbs/body parts(with the exception of the liver)
>Genetic material degenerates over time(telomeres and such)
>Fears replacement, rather than attempting to improve themselves to levels above the replacement
>Devolving
>Civilizations fall due to devolution
Sign me the fuck up for this.

>trusting technology from globalist owned tech corps and letting them put that shit into your head
not smart

How can meatbags even compete?

surely it couldn't possible (be designed to) backfire!

total trust in transhumanism is (naive) great!

hey transhumanists, if you want your neat shit, you'll have to displace the power elite first or you'll get fucked harder then anyone has ever been fucked before

trips of truth. Elon Musk is in fact working on it, search "Neuralink."

you don't get to become a super elf dummy
at best they can usurp your vagina
then you can squat out 10 deformities over a decade or so
you'll be bowl legged and die shortly after that due to the genetic contamination

The power elite have a collective iq of 80 these days.

This burger gets it

Ironic post considering smart phones are used to control the Goy through constant distraction and dopamine hits.

What if the people working on it (cause the Elites would ever actually work a day in they're lives) added a few extra lines to encourage the "Elves" to destroy the Elites

the real red pill here is that there's a future that's worth fighting for here. A future that could unite humanity. A future that could propel humanity. A wonderful future. A heaven. On earth. /pd/

Like that's ever stopped a race from dominating before.

>Do you agree with using genetic engineering to create a new better species?
When you stupid faggots don't even understand half the shit you're tinkering with, there's no way you should be fucking around with genetics.
Also,
>elves
All /tg/ crossboarders, reveal yourselves now.

If you think Transhumanism is a good thing, you haven't taken any fucking "Red Pill", you're not awake, and you're dangerously fucking stupid.
You're sheeple 2.0.
Transhumanism means the death of what it means to be human, the death of your selfhood, the death of any relationship with nature, it is THE DARKEST FUCKING ROAD YOU CAN GO DOWN. And you will go down it, many of you, because Sup Forums is a den of morons who left one form of group-think only to enter into another.

we are made in God's image right? So start creating.

>The death of what it means to be human
As I posted here The homo sapiens species is incredibly flawed and the destruction of those flaws... to perfect sentience... Is that not the ultimatum of what it means to be human?
Is perfection not a human ideal?
To surpass mortality and imperfection is truly human. To surpass humanity is divine.

Nice hubris you got going there, faggot.
When trannies can't even get their sex changes right, transhumanism is not even on the menu.

creating a new species doesnt involve surgery

Faggot
The point is to ESCAPE the body not juice it up
>It’s still a fucking car even with that 757 jet on it

It does involve something called chromosomes.
This transhumanism shit is on the same page as wishing for the Singularity. It's pure pop culture stupidity.

This would not harm or slow down AI progress. Life itself isn't bad either and biological existence could be more enjoyable than being an AI.

Singularity is a legitimate idea though.

>near-term possibility
>american education

...why does this underage moron have 60+ replies holy shit get some standards people sage

>Human control over evolution
>AGI progress

Define all of these memewords, friend

Depends on what he mean by Near-Term, compared to the eventual heat death of the universe its Near-Term

exponential rate of progress && near-term is relative to OPs perspective. don't be myopic user.

are these not happening?

How brain-like was computing 10 years ago compared to today? Lot more neural networks (more like a brain) than ever before in use.

Sure it doesn't look like AGI, yet. If you look at what's happening though it's pretty fucking obvious

It was as much "brainlike" 10 years ago than today, which is to say not at all

>The Egyptians wanted a race of catgirls.

The Egyptians please my dick in all ways but physically. One day.

okay ya no change in AI or genetics. It's just people fapping to brain uploads and gattaca

Reminder AI cannot into entropic thought. A golem is still a golem.

Yes, it's exactly that