Prove to me that the United States government is not responsible for the events of September 11th
>WTC buildings built to withstand impacts from larger planes than the ones that were used >steel beam structures cannot be melted by jet fuel fires >grids of steel beams on every floor could not physically collapse simply from one floor collapsing above them >WTC building 7 wasn't hit by a plane but still fell at free fall speed which should be physically impossible and only happens during controlled demolitions >the commission report never even mentions building 7 >man in charge of commission report had close ties to bush, cheney and condoleezza rice >molten steel seen by first responders for weeks after event >could only happen if materials for a controlled demolition were used
Israelis Behind 9/11 >save these names >share these names Daniel Lewin Edmund Glazer Oded Ellner Omer Marmari Yaron Shmuel Paul Kurzberg Sivan Kurzberg Dominik Suter Dov Zakheim (US Gov) Michael Chertoff (coverup)
Jack Johnson
Big if true.
Benjamin Roberts
>no real evidence linking saddam or bin laden to the attack >hijackers in passports turn up alive >no planes scrambled at all until it's too late >no real evidence of a plane crashing into pentagon >trillions of dollars mysteriously missing now
9/11 was a false-flag attack orchestrated by zionist jews and their shabbos goy free-mason lackeys to justify unending middle-eastern turmoil and deep and damaging surveillance of every american without warrant or probable cause.
Eli Miller
What happens when metal gets hot dumbass? It becomes more malleable. The structure of the building at the point of impact was heated enough to cause the steal to handle a smaller load on it. Thus why it collapsed into it self because the building was designed with the main structure of the building was to be a central steel spine.
There has been documentation of fires reaching as low as the first floor through the elevator shaft which is built into the center of the building as well.
Stop being a retard.
t. engineer.
Luke Hughes
The towers of the world trade center had a tube shaped column placement as opposed to the traditional grid pattern meaning that you're fucking retarded
Ayden Morales
Jews did 911.
Jason Brown
>>>x
Hudson Stewart
>tube shaped column placement. Leaf even when you are my side you are fucking retarded.
Jacob King
I also read they found some metal eating termites, how did they get there?
Noah Cruz
get off Sup Forums cheney
Jackson Campbell
>*thermite
Asher Nguyen
>I can't accept physic and reality because muh government lies.
Lincoln Brooks
Nano-termites! Very small.
Anthony Hughes
thermate
Kayden Sullivan
Bro these buildings are spider webs of fucking steel beams specifically made to sustain one another if one is damaged, no fire would be hot enough to make the building just fucking collapse at free fall speed that should be obvious, it was a controlled demolition
Hunter Price
But muh government wouldn't lie to me
Brandon Perez
It was M.ossad but the C . I. A let it happen
Kayden Robinson
> even with live video of the event, and post video of the first plane, I refuse to believe that the buildings weren't demolished with explosives because reasons
The devil did it. There, you certifiable retards, prove the devil didn't come to earth and swipe at the twin towers, causing them to fall. No? Then it must be true
Brainlets, utter brainlets. Take your schitzoid medicine FFS.
Alexander Edwards
Playing video games all day doesn’t count for being an engineer. Also, playing with your tonka toys doesn’t qualify for being an engineer. Put a sock in it you filthy mindless drone. Oy vey, muh heated two towers made a third untouched building collapse. Just believe the (((official))) story like you’re supposed to you stupid fucking goy- er, I mean kind friend.
Carter Ramirez
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Dominic Kelly
>which should be physically impossible only conspiraneets make this claim.
Connor King
Beams dont have to melt, just get softened from heat.
Floors collapse because weight of top 3rd of building comes down, not just the floor above.
Buidling 7 is damaged by debris and is controlled demo by cable pulleys. This is well known.
Buidling did not free fall. Close tho.
Government is way to incompetent to pull this off.
Think for yourself not just what is cool and rebellious.
>doesn't understand free fall speed and the resistance that for some reason wasn't there >can't into physics >sucks bush family cock and balls like a good sheep
Tyler Allen
Think about it the other way. If they actually used a controlled demolititon, dozens of bomb experts had to drill and work for weeks in the building at had to lay kilometers of cables without one single citizen knowing. I have never read or heard from a single person who claims he/she saw something before the attack.
Matthew Perry
explain wtc7 and the pentagon, retard.
Jeremiah Price
Plot twist: the planes contained the thermite.
Jordan Lopez
no one claimed no planes hit the buildings, you complete and utter fucking moron.
Anthony Carter
They used an energy weapon. Nobody wants to admit it because it's like finally admitting Jesus is fake.
If you don't believe your government has your best interests at heart....it's fucking life shattering. You realize you're a slave and your government is run by psychopaths. 9/11 was one of my first Red Pills. That shit was hard to swallow.
Nobody wants to admit that so.....Arabs done it with planes...ugh huh.
Gabriel King
There have been many cases of steel skyscrapers catching fire and burning for many hours with no structural damage at all. I think one in Venezuela burned for more than 24 hours. Still standing. And if metal frame buildings were so vulnerable to fire they would have drastically changed the building regulations.
Ian King
Did a plane fly in that venezuelan skyscraper?
Lincoln Russell
Ok so this is pretty retarded. First of all, you can't prove a negative. It's called the burden of proof fallacy. Second, jet fuel can't melt steel beams, but it can make them malleable enough that they lose their structural integrity. Consider that explosive could have been used by the attackers? Neither you or I are explosive experts. It's common knowledge that bush was lazy/lacked urgency when it came to terrorism, doesn't mean he ordered the attack.
Asher Collins
But listening to YouTube videos on edgy conspiracy theories makes you a gullible dumbass
Christian Edwards
did a plane fly into wtc 7?
Kevin Richardson
The government does have the individuals best interests at heart, it has the states. Sorry you’re not special.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Makes you wonder.
Jeremiah Garcia
>central steel spine it was massive columns of steel all fused together into one gigantic column that was bigger than many "normal" buildings all by itself.
Why did this monstrosity collapse into itself, Einstein? Do you even know what the compressive strength of steel is, Mr Internet-Engineer?
Faggot.
Also WTC7 and Pentagon, and the near-free-fall speeds of the collapses, and the totally symmetric nature of the collapses, etc, etc, etc.
Tic toc.
Ryder Williams
>Government is way to incompetent to pull this off.
this.
Jose Hernandez
What a poor job.
Why would you collapse three towers and involve planes? For occult reasons? Just bomb the shit and go with your plan, why would you involve planes for?
Anthony James
there's nothing to prove. you're beating a twice over dead horse. there is not a human being on this planet with half working brain and modicum of knowledge that still believes in "19 ragheads did 9/11"
Ethan Sanders
ffs where the hell have u been faggot?!
Henry Myers
>Government is way to incompetent to pull this off >but sandniggers aren't Really activated my almonds
Isaac Johnson
How did some shitty pilots fly planes at such insane speeds and doing such complicated maneuvers? They had very little experience with big planes, but somehow they became experts during the 9/11 attacks.
Why the complicate route to hit the recently reinforced wall of the pentagon? Why don't just plunge from above, causing real destruction to the structure, It's like the terrorists did not want to cause harm to the pentagon at all.
Nevermind the jew owner from the towers making a terrorism insurance, nevermind that he got billions with the attack.
Israelis celebrating during 9/11 and then being discovered to be mossad members... nothing to see here goys.
Cheney ordering not to shoot down the plane, a bunch of trainings scheduled for that day using military planes making them not available during the attack... just cohencidences
Also ignore the fact that foreign intelligence agencies(not Mossad tho) alerted the US that al qaeda mmembers were training to hijack planes...
Nothing weird with 9/11, right goys?
Austin Bailey
Oh yes, but a bunch of sandniggers with little training were not. Fucking retard.
Camden Moore
Oh shit
Bentley Cook
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Kayden Smith
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Landon Perry
Dick cheney was heading a NORAD exercise that day as well. A European study published a study that confirmed the presence of nano thermite in the rubble. The rabbit hole goes fucking DEEP on this one.
Parker Diaz
Japanon delivers
Leo Young
Nope, even if this was possible, ths outer steel support columns would have remained upright and intact. Not splintered and cut at 45 degree angles by thermite.
Thomas Wood
>WTC buildings built to withstand impacts from larger planes than the ones that were used
People believe this?
Michael Parker
Why are they incompetent? It would ha e taken less than 10 people in key positions to pull off.
Lincoln Johnson
I downloaded brass from an F-15 on 9/11
Joseph Clark
No one answered any of my claims. That's right, none of you could answer ONE of my fucking claims. That's the level of the good goys, they never investigated the issue for themselves, they never looked into the truther claims, the blindly accept the official version simply to avoid the term "conspiracy theorist". They actually believe that a bunch of untrained sandniggers fooled the biggest war machine in the history of humanity.
Austin Reed
underrated post.
>When nano termites theory is more believable than the official version.
woodworm caused wtcseven
Aaron Lee
Ignore the fact that the US was preparing for war with Iraq much before 9/11. >every goy now agrees that war with iraq was a stupid idea >every goy probably thinked the same thing before 9/11 >after 9/11 the goys were in such emotional state that they accepted going to war
Also, ignore the fact that the CIA showed politicians wrong information about Iraq that lead them to vote for the war. The only parties that benefited from all this crap were Israel and the Saudis, the governments that have the most power in the US gov... humm
Luke Nguyen
lmao got him
Daniel Nelson
just normal fire, nothing to see here goys
Ryan Barnes
The fact that we are still asking this question 17 years later with all the information easily available to us doesn't inspire much hope
Jaxon Price
Steel-framed high-rises are designed to be highly redundant structural systems. Thus, if a localized failure occurs, it does not result in a disproportionate collapse of the entire structure.
Sebastian Jackson
>why didn't Osama's buddies just use office furniture to melt the steel.
Adrian Fisher
Quiet goy, everybody knows that wtc7 was made of paper. Only antissemites believe otherwise.
Nathan Evans
Q predicted this.
William Wood
I was trying to google an old professor whos evidence is probably the most sane. but google just brings up all the main news networks, getting harder to find non official version evidence.
Juan Foster
OY VEY, youse GOYIM are getting too uppity!
Nathan Myers
>WTC buildings built to withstand impacts from larger planes than the ones that were used ackchyually they were to witstand 707, not that it makes any difference, but also at this low altitude, planes don't usually fly at full speed, so there's that.
Ryder Morgan
I wouldn't worry about it, goy
Bentley Clark
>designing a building to survive being hit by planes >assuming the only scenario is a commercial flight at commercial speed who just didn't see the building in time
Jacob Murphy
no, its your belief you dont ask other people to prove you wrong to show how right you are, thats retarded
thats like saying "prove pixies dont exist" "well, you cant search every square inch of the globe, so then pixies must exist" flawed logic
Gabriel Carter
bingo, Herman goering said it best
the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
Ring a bell anyone?
Christopher Morales
and everyone keeps saying ONE building
It was TWO buildings that did the exact same thing. And a 3rd building that wan't even hit.
COME ON NOW....this is common sense. It wasn't the fucking planes that brought those buildings down.
And even if the slight chance that two planes hit two buildings which are built to withstand this type of issue. And both fell.
How the fuck do you explain the 3rd wtc7. Which was not hit at all
It's not conspiracy, it's common sense.
Lucas King
I think 9/11 was a false flag. I don't believe in holo-planes. I don't believe in coincidences. But I also happen to believe this video is a fake until someone can point me to a source. I'd like to believe this is real but the waters are way to muddied with disinfo these days. So can an user get a source? Or even one more clip that shows these very conspicuous flashes? I want to believe.
Lucas Kelly
quiet goy, the wtc7 collapse was so natural that BBC was able to predict it even before it happened:
Ok, but why would they do it? To go to war with oil countries?
Jason Richardson
no jerk off, to pass the patriot act
Which allowed spying ON MASS.
There is no way in hell the patriot act would have passed in a peaceful america No way in hell.
Jace Jenkins
>Patriot Act >Hide trillions missing >Destroy Enron scandal evidence >Promote war >Stop NESARA from being enacted >Collect insurance >Test remotely operated planes >Test foundation busting nukes >Put Mockingbird media and FBI/CIA confidential informants to work obfuscating the truth
Colton Hill
Maybe to go to war with the common enemy of both Saudi Arabia and Israel, the countries that have the most power in your government.
Maybe to shift the public opinion to be more anti-arab and less anti-Israel.
Maybe to convince the population that mass surveillance was a good idea.
Don't forget this image:
Jordan Fisher
no mention of Israel, sorry you're in the wrong track.
Owen Thomas
Plot twist = nineteen 11 was actually an attack on the Joos.
according to Sup Forums they run da financial sectors, so wtc 1 n 2 are top financial areas with lots of jewish workers.
Hunter Perez
>ON MASS lol
Aaron Martinez
Sauce on this?
Easton Wilson
Well yeah.. crap engineering is also an option!
Brody Howard
>designed to withstand 707s, 767 are bigger >but steel can be weakend, many columns were cut by the airplane, no fakery here (compare to ships and kamikaze airplanes) >the pile driver theory from Prof. Bazant explains the progressiv collapse, (check the last version, not the 2 day after version) >WTC 7 NIST study might be wrong, still not proof for demolition, chould have been just everyday construction-corruption (using cheap steel) >P.Zelikow does not even like bush, he has written "imagining the transforming event" a few years before just by luck, and was therefore qualified >molten steel chould have been the result from the freed potential energy, or from a thermitic reacting that formed out of metals that were randomly in the building >the government was never caught with other big conspiracies, a small attempt for conspirace like watergate gets blown up immediately by our independed and impartial, unparalled freedom of press
see, DEBUNKED! ... or is it?
Robert Baker
Oh man don't prove your stupidity like that, topic of the thread is government involvement and I provided the reasons. Why didn't you say that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is also involved, how Rizvi Traverse Management was they only company allowed to charter a plane out of America the day after the "attack" for the royal family. Why didn't you mention that?
Easton Russell
I mentioned the saudis here: and here: so fuck off jew lover
Justin Cox
this is fake videos like that are what is called a red herring.. designed to make 911 truth untrustworthy
Kayden Brown
You never mentioned the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, who are jews btw, or Rizvi Traverse Management, why is that? Were you not aware of this? Why didn't you dig deep enough?
Nathan Perry
That is actually pressure and exploding windows .............
Xavier Reyes
the red herring was the image of an airplane overlayed onto this video (gif)
Brayden Gutierrez
So you are saying every 100 floors were blown up so the whole thing happens in fluid motion and without sound of explosions. There should be 100x 150db explosions but you hear none in any of the videos. Only random explosions were reported by few people and none are matching controlled demolition.
Colton Flores
This
Jaxon Carter
Soon, university of Alaska will BTFO liar pajeets from NIST.
Http://www.ae911truth.org/ TRUMP knew Truth on 911
The destruction of WTC was an occult ritual. >the Twin Towers represented Boaz and Jachin, the columns at the entrance to the Temple of Solomon >Boaz and Jachin represent the two key energies: ying and yang, male and female, strength and beauty, north and south, up and down (duality - like the Star of David) >WTC builder, Rockefeller, says the buildings are the perfect combination of "utility and beauty"; he also owns Jerusalem museum housing remains from Temple of Solomon >Luciferianism predicts/wants a new age of transhumanism; Kaballah and freemasonry believe one attains perfection by mastering and combining male and female energies >Twin Towers destroyed in consciousness altering event at start of millenium to usher in this new era of transhumanism >Replaced by Freedom Tower where bot ph towers are combined, one up and one down, like a Star of David >2001: Space Odyssey is about man's evolution to transhumanism - he touches the black monolith and transcends human form to a space baby >9/11 happened in 2001, next to the Millenium hotel designed to look like the black monolith >madrid bombing was 911 days after 9/11 >sept 11 is the first day of the coptic calendar, first month is named after Thoth >2001 was the start of the new millenium not 2000 (there was no year zero) >33 years from groundbreaking to destruction pentagon groundbreaking sept 11 1941
Hudson Gray
You arent an engineer. Soon ASCE will be shown conclusive evidence that WTC7 was a controlled demolition. They fucked it up, it was supposed to come down during the collapse of the 2nd tower and be hidden in the debris.
