how the fuck is this fair?
>b-but votes are per state muh chess
do you even realise what this means? it means that a vote from someone in a highly populated state literally matters less than a vote from someone in a state with less people
1 vote has a higher percentage aka more influence compared to a state population of 1.7 million like in idaho than 1 vote in a state with 21 million people like florida
this system is completely fucked
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The popular vote hasn’t mattered in the USA since 1787
You clearly don’t understand shit pal
Because the states would not have united to form the united states otherwise.
>libcucks still crying about the election a year and a half later
The only people who voted for Trump are rural and suburban retards.
City people all voted for Hillary.
werid how there's no fair electoral process huh :^)
Democracy is mob rule, where the loudest and stupidest make the rules for everybody else. That's why the U.S. was established as a Democratic Republic, so the loudmouth retards couldn't fuck shit up for everyone else.
But, wouldn't this make "City people" retards for voting against democracy and freedom?
I know you're baiting, but
>liberals legitimately believe this means city dwellers are more intelligent, worldly, and compassionate
>ignore the reality that it's because urban centers are where minorities are most concentrated and minorities always vote for leftist gibs
1) She agreed to the rules
2) Because of the rules, the campaign is also directed in a certain way. If the popular vote mattered the most, both candidates would campaign only/mostly in Cali, NY, Texas, PA and Florida, neglecting other states.
3) The Electoral College exists because the US is literally a ''Union of States'' under a Federal Government, which means every state gets a representation to the Federal Government. Eliminating the Electoral College eliminates also this concept, paving the road to balkanization
4) There is no data, but it can be assumed that a lot of illegals managed to vote, make the official popular vote count suspicious
No, high IQ people naturally tend to move to the cities:
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not a democracy. Constitutional republic.
Listen dickhead if Trump wanted to win the popular vote he would have.
>play soccer
>score more goals
>other team complains because they won on possession
Truly the best timeline.
Do you think that if there rules were changed, Trump would lose? He would have changed his campaign strategy. This was a year long battle, do you think there's no strategy involved. Do you blame Trump for playing by the rules, when Hillary was doing the same?
I'm not saying she won, I'm saying the american voting system is retarded
no matter how you try to twist and turn it, not every vote is equal in this system
and befoe you defend this system simply because it's in your favor
keep in mind that obama would've lost his second term if the voting was done through popular vote
so the worst SJW years, 2012-2016, probably wouldn't have happened with a normal voting system
>every vote is not equal
Of course not. It's a republic not a straight demogracy. Rules were known before and during election by both parties.
>this system is retarded
>uhm sweetie that's the rules ok? no arguments allowed
Thats the point, retard. The electoral collegewas created partly to make sure those in less populated areas are protected from being run by over populated shit hole cities.
As if letting big cities decide elections and shaft all the flyover states is fair
You have been given counter-arguments in the thread and it has been shown that the system is not as retarded as you claim.
>how the fuck is this fair?
If it wasn't fair, why did they agree to it in the first place?
THIS
Now post the one about income levels and who they voted for
Oh wait
Thats where jobs are. Guess where these high iq individuals went when they retired. Yup the country side. Your argument is weak.
Well Belgian brother the United states chose to unite in the way they best sought fit and as a result they created the greatest country in the world.
We have a saying in English:
>Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
Perhaps you should look at how your own country is united (or disunited) before commenting on others.
>it means that a vote from someone in a highly populated state literally matters less than a vote from someone in a state with less people
That was the fucking point when it was designed in order to make rural states have more of a say, you absolute brainlet. Having an electoral system that only counts individual votes only works in countries that has a small, tightly-knit population.
america is basically an empire with each ares having a single vote that their citizens in turn vote for.
Understand the reason why we don't have the popular vote. It's so some populous dictator doesn't get into power and starts running a muck. It's there to protect the people. BTW Hillary only won the popular vote because of illegal state double voting, dead people voting, and illegal immigrants voting. Popular vote doesn't mean anything.
>california and new york think they control america
OOOHHHH NO NO NO NO
Dam it share blue you buch of cry babies you lost you will always lose cause you are Evil
Most of our dtates are several times lsrger than your country. A dorect democracy may work for you in your country, and it may work for some of our states,but the US is a supposed to be a bunch of smaller countries united to form one bigger country. The people do not elect the president, the states do. We the people just tell our state how to vote. Does that make sense?
People who live in major population centers matter less, true. Just look at them. Nigger crackheads, disarmed cucks, faggots of every stripe, barren wombed whores. They're not as valuable as people and they don't deserve a vote at all, honestly.
Government is designed to be fractured and limited in scope. You are a typical lib idiot - probably "educated" yet don't understand shit. Democracy is simplistic and dangerous. You must like the federal takeover of this country. KYS ASAP
...where?
Well, it means all regions are equally represented, for some reason. It's certainly not a democratic process.
There are literally more people living there. It is not their fault the US has unmanageable amounts of land with different geologic environments.
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You retards didn't care about popular vote when Hillary beat Obama in the 2008 primaries.
Get fucked by daddy Trump, crybaby bitchboy.
We aren't a direct democracy you dumb mother fucker.
At least look into the political spectrum before you show us where you are on the spectrum, retard. Because we are a democratic republic.
This means we vote for representatives on districts, cities, and states and from there they decide on representation for a federal government. So we have an electoral college so that states like cali don't decide for the rest of the country.
If people cared about votes they would have got bernie over shillary. But everyone wants to forget about how shillary used the electoral college to pressure bernie out through super delegates.
She is a cunt and deserved to lose to Trump. Get rekt faggot.
People keep fighting for "their" party and "their" leader, not knowing that the only thing a party or leader is loyal to is to stay in power. I see so many people making enemies of their friends just because they follow other ideology.
We associate our worth, and our ego to whatever party we follow, or for devices it could be apple vs android phones, or DC v Marvel.
That's not how it should work, it should be DC and marvel fighting for you and your vote and opinion.
Make yourself in such a position that you play both sides. We are all asking for gibs here, we all attach our lives, spend our time, and waste our resources in tying to prove "our" party is right.
As long as people do not understand that the teams aren't left people vs right people, it is people vs anyone who wants to govern we all will be ruled by people who are expert at manipulation.
Citing our history doesn't make it less retarded.
People believing democracy is a good form of government is one of the best arguments against democracy.
it's not really fucked up and I wish the EU would have the same system.
It's a union of states/countries, not of people.
California/Germany shouldn't be able to ride the enture union into Turkey/Mexico because the majority of their people choose to be cucks.
The votes of farmers SHOULD matter more than the votes of baristas.
This ensures one group of people can't decide to have 8 kids each and attain more voting power than everyone else in a very short period of time. I can't imagine why leftists would be opposed to this...
Well unless you want to go through the amendment process of the constitution, or you want to have a civil war over it, that's the way it's gonna be
It's to curb hivemind mentality where everyone in a group collectively has the same ideological thinking.
It's to stop foreigners in California from deciding every president while the rest of the country doesn't matter at all.