This confuses the gun-nut

Republicans: WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN SEVERAL MILITARY-GRADE RIFLES USED IN WAR IN ORDER TO DEFEND OURSELVES

Decent people: OK, but what about the right to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness", where the only way to preserve Life is through healthcare, thus universal healthca-

Republicans: OMG SOCIALIST COMMUNIST

Low effort shill post meant to clog up Sup Forums saged

We can talk when the government pays for my guns.

Fucking this.

"WAHHHHHH ILL ONLY SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO MEDICAL CARE PRESENT IN MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES ONLY IF YOU SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO GUNS WHICH IS ABSENT IN MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES"

You sound silly

Go be gay somewhere else, we're not paying for your AIDS medicine.

sage
God's work user

>the only way to preserve Life
Through the ability to protect yourself

That’s from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

Sage

/thread

ur either someone who has never talked to a Republican or a baiting brainlet

Please don't use slug waifu to shill your political ideology thank you

Yes because buying yourself a gun with your own hard earned money
And the government taking your money by force to give healthcare to other people without your agreement isnt the same thing

WE ARE SHUTTING THIS THREAD DOWN UNTIL THE POSTERS OF Sup Forums ADRESSES THE FOLLOWING


We Want An Immediate End To Police Brutality And the Murder Of Black, Brown & All Oppressed People

Every 28 hours a black person in the United States is killed by someone employed or protected by the government of the United States. Other communities are also criminalized, targeted, attacked and brutalized. We want an immediate end to state sanctioned violence against our communities
We Want Full Employment For Our People

Every individual has the human right to employment and a living wage. Inability to access employment and fair pay continues to marginalize our communities, ready us for imprisonment, and deny us of our right to a life with dignity
We Want Decent Housing Fit For The Shelter Of Human Beings

Our communities have a human right to access quality housing that protects our families and allows for our children to be free from harm.
We Want an End to the School to Prison Pipeline & Quality Education for All

We want an end to policies that criminalize our young people as well as discriminatory discipline practices that bar access to quality education. Furthermore, we want all children to be able to access free, quality education. Including free or affordable public university.
We Want Freedom from Mass Incarceration and an End to the Prison Industrial Complex

We want an end to the over policing and surveillance of our communities. This will hasten an end to the criminalization of black and brown people and hyper incarceration everywhere. Policing in the United States has historically helped to enforce racist laws, policies and norms. The result is a massive prison industrial complex built on the warehousing of black people. We call for the cessation of mass incarceration and the eradication of the prison industrial complex all together. In its place we will address harm and conflict in our communities through community based, restorative solutions

>Every 28 hours a black person in the United States is killed by someone employed or protected by the government of the United States

You say that like it's a bad thing. It's not.

Instead of giving money to Israel , the american gov could use it for healthcare.
Otherwise , cuck

If free healthcare didn't involve someone else's labor I would be slightly more inclined to agree, though still not very. The government can't prevent you from seeking out medical care, that's honestly as good as it can realistically be. That doesn't mean they owe it to you, they just owe you not fucking it up for you. This is why you don't want much government in your healthcare, it's not hard to see how that can go wrong. I would point to Charlie Gard as a real life and tragically sad example of this.

the jews pay you too much for this weak shit.

Always the same catalan fag, making the same flawed argument using the same BnhA edits...
Don't you get tired of it?

>We Want an End to the School to Prison Pipeline & Quality Education for All

Easy. Control your niglets.

>We want an end to the over policing and surveillance of our communities

Easy. Control your niglets.

You have the right to it you colossal faggot
What you don't have is the right to make me pay for your shit.

I have the right to own firearms. I don't want military grade since I am a hobbyist and have higher standards. The current laws don't even allow that much though. Gun rights are extremely restricted in The United States.
Everyone has the right to healthcare, universal healthcare even. Just go see a doctor and tell him what you want and you can purchase the service, even something as fucked up as chopping off your dick and having a vaguely feminine looking gash installed in it's place.

Not an argument.

They're not mutually exclusive and you're presenting a false equivalency.

Taking away guns doesn't = a path to universal healthcare.

The 2nd amendment can exist alongside decent healthcare. Most people on this board agree that a robust system to flag the mentally ill would stop mass shootings.

Or at least I do. I live in a huge gun state that most of you cucks fantasize about moving to (no, I won't name it). We use our guns for practical use instead of owning them for fear of the gubments or to participate in the cold war against urban minorities. A mass shooting hasn't happened here.

>ONLY IF YOU SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO GUNS WHICH IS ABSENT IN MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES
are you actually saying you think having a right to something means that the government needs to buy it for you

>WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN SEVERAL MILITARY-GRADE RIFLES USED IN WAR
The AR-15 isn't used by the military. It is quite literally a civilian model.

I'm sure we can do better than one every 28 hours, we should at least be able to get it to one every 2 hours. Once that happens and your population is severely reduced it should take care of the rest of the problems you listed

positive vs. negative liberty. gtfo

> guns exist
> universal health care does not

Any other dumb arguments?

> Europe has universal health care!

Two words: Charlie Gard.

Interesting. I would like to see how the nation turns out if everyone is issued a basic loadout of firearms and required to carry at least one of them at all times when outside of the home. Starting at age 10 all citizens are issued a 20-gauge shotgun and proficient use is required at all grade levels in school. At 14 they are issued a small rifle like a personal defense weapon or carbine. At 16 they receive a handgun in 9mm or 45ACP. Then at 18 they are given a bolt action rifle chambered in something like 6.5 CM. Being caught without the firearm could be a class A misdemeanor. Subsequent violation within a 24 months period would become a class E felony. Obviously we would have to remove felons not being allowed to own firearms. Just beef up the punishments for those using a firearm in the commission of a crime and it will work out. A nice double edged sword here. If you commit a serious crime without a gun, bam! Extra charges. If you use a gun, Bam! Extra charges. It is a win-win scenario for good patriotic citizens.

Life is something that you receive when you are born. Nothing in that sentence promises you eternal life. Same reason i says Pursuit of Happiness and not just Happiness itself. You must have failed all of the reading comprehension portions of the testing you had to do in school. Is that why they switched you to the class with the really angry kid and the one that drools? The short bus must have sucked.

The image is referring to surplus like the mosin nagant and springfield. Those are quite literally military grade rifles. Bolt actions are scary because le sniper rifle. a neutered cartridge like the .223 is of least concern to gun grabbers. If anything they hope it is used because of it's extreme sub-lethality.

you don't want freedom to universal healthcare, you want FREE universal health care.

the difference is that one of them requires money.

Healthcare is universal just health care costs aren't

SAGE

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

Also the fact that you don't understand the difference between a Natural negative rights vs a man made positive right then you are a fucking idiot.

Here is a hint, I have a natural right to defend myself but you don't have the right to steal from my pocket to pay for your unhealthy lifestyle you colossal faggot.

Sage this idiot

What is confusing about it?

The freedom to guns is the right to purchase and own firearms.

The freedom to healthcare is the right to purchase and own health insurance.

Calling universal healthcare a freedom does not make it a freedom. You're talking about FORCING other people to pay for YOUR medical expenses.

2-A are not demanding that the population be taxed so that the government can buy guns for everyone. Your argument is a false equivalency. THE LEFT CANNOT MEME.

can someone please tell me if the bad grammar is part of the bait?
i need to know

Sage

>turning right into an obligation so it fits my fantasy narrative
nice strawman, sage

It's no different with healthcare. We could make it so that if a person has a BMI over 20 they no longer receive any coverage and must drop their weight down before accessing any medical gibs. Maybe even go a step further with the big gubment lefties seem to love so much and tack on an additional 50% tax for food items to anyone with a BMI over 20. People like to say 18-24.99 is normal but have you ever seen someone with a BMI of 24.9? It's fucking disgusting and definitely not normal. 20 is the sensible cutoff.

Did we pass a gun care act Sup Forums? Where is my free gun at?

How many days are you going to copy and paste the same bullshit argument over and over again? No one is being forced to pay for my guns for me.
The right to bear arms means that I have the right to arm myself as I see fit to defend my sovereignty.

At what point is your "right" to healthcare a legal obligation on my part to pay for?

Is my owning guns somehow preventing someone from going to a hospital? If so fucking how? Seriously I have yet in all the times you have posted this seen you actually make a rational correlation between the two.
The right to any government mandated service is a bullshit comparison.

Your argument boils down to. A some people have things that cost money and you want free shit. So it's unfair that people have things when they could be taxed to pay for your free shit instead. This is called slavery and you are a entitled cunt for expecting it. That and guns not in the government/police states hands hurt your vagina feels so (((we)) must tolerance camp the stupid drumpf lovin rednecks.

Basically you are a whiny godless communist who deserves to be helicoptered if you actually believe your own bullshit.

The reason you are wrong. I pay for my own arms. I also pay taxes equal to or greater than almost every nigger who expects free shit in my country.

No I don't need my rights and privately purchased property revoked because you want free shit. No one is being denied access to hospitals and no one is being asked to pay for my guns. Your argument is bullshit of the highest order and a textbook false dichotomy.

A brief summary of why OP is a colossal faggot.

A. >The freedom to guns. (Already off to a good start twisting the second amendments wording to attempt to make an argument.)

We have the right to bear arms, but nowhere is there any form of obligation for anyone to be forced or coerced to provide those arms for others in order for them to be able to exercise their right. Except the state, but that's different liberals love guns when they don't have to be the ones using them to enforce the will of the state on the thought criminals.

Now for the complete opposite. For part B of it's bullshit argument.
>But not the (((freedom))) to universal healthcare.

If I A have the right to provide for myself the means to self defence and uncivil disobedience. Than I am B obligated to be forced to contribute to a wealth redistribution plan that provides an extremely costly service to everyone (badly by the way. Emagine going to the DMV and getting in line to get open heart surgery) at the expense of those who are able to contribute almost solely to the benefit of those who do not.

In summary OP is wrong because.
Part one is the freedom to have access to the ability to provide for myself the means to exercise a inalienable right at no expense to others.

Part two is the false assumption of dictating an obligation to contribute to a collective service as a freedom while actually infringing my individual rights as a sovereign citizen.

One is a right = Freedom
The other is a tax = obligation/subjugation/mandate
They are not the same thus this is a false dichotomy. No one pays for my guns but me. I already have to pay for pic relate and I don't want to have to pay for any more.

In not so short that is why OP lives next to the dildo factory and is completely fucking wrong.

you can only be free from, not to. like for examle free from tyranical government

Republicans want you to have the freedom to buy firearms as well as the freedom to buy health care, it's just that you'll have to pay for it yourself.

By that train of thought, the state is also supposed to clothe, feed and give you shelter.
Stop doing charity with someone else's money, you useless shits.

Sage

no u

also sage

Real issue is demcratic false flags. People who hate guns going out of their way to start some shit so we can have gun laws/more guns laws. All we need to to purge the Democratic cancer from the earth and crime goes down 90%. Do your own research leads you to the same point

You have the right to buy healthcare, just like I have the right to buy a gun. The government doesn’t pay for it though

They also want tax cuts for billionaires

You achieve liberty and the pursuit of happiness by taking your guns and conquering your enemies and taking everything you can, not from leaching off of social welfare programs at the expense of your betters like parasitic scum.

The biggest failure of the modern man is his trading in of self-sufficiency, ambition, and Excellency for dependence, defeatism, and self-loathing all in the name of some dogma the faggots and weaklings call "virtue" or "goodness".

You have the same access to guns as you do to healthcare.

What's the problem? Do you want the government to freely issue firearms to every citizen?

No, it doesn't you fucking moron.

I believe in the FREEDOM to buy or have any gun I want!

I believe in the FREEDOM to buy or have any healthcare I want.

Fuck off and die in a fire with this reposted bait

>universal healthcare
>free
please stop associating my wife with your retardation.

Healthcare is a right.

Being forced to PAY for said healthcare is not a right, that's an obligation.
"Rights" can't be obligations.


Are leftards braindead idiots or subhuman non-white parasites?

Minor tweak leaf bro hope you don't mind.

> right to

Kill yourself, retard.

When do we get government funded guns?

that's not how you do it, you stupid, stupid person....

THIS is how you do it!

The only appropriate authority of any government is to protect against the violation of Negative Rights, not to provide Positive Rights.

Based America, never change. You're an inspiration!

You have the right to purchase healthcare, and I have the right to purchase firearms. There is no double standard here.

>MILITARY-GRADE
> what about the right to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"
How does your so called 'MILITARY-GRADE' rifles prevent any of that?
kys share blue
sage

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>That feel when liberal who is in the process of telling other liberals to buy guns.

Seriously I don't know why the left is so against guns, the best route for use to grab em is to buy them. Right wing pussys don't do to well when they know the opposition is as armed as them.

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oops, wrong thread.

>freedom
>universal healthcare
How the fuck is this supposed to by freedom? If anything it is tyranny since I'm forced to pay for something I don't use

sage

God, I hate that shitty fucking meme and this shitty pasta.

>freedom to universal healthcare
So, uh, enslaving doctors, nurses, and everyone in medicine is considered "freedom" now?

Why are BnHA so cancerous?
Seriously their piece of shit garbage anime offers nothing new or interesting, all it does is take tropes from every shounenshit ever and play them in straight.
How does this hot piece of garbage get away with being the epitome of average
What also angers me is the fact that its fans think this garbage has a large enough following to become the next naruto/bleach, or god forbid, Dragonball. It's as if they're completely unaware of how gigantic those series really were and still are today.

>Cites the Declaration of Independence from England
>Believes it's a constitutional right
>Unironically believes he has the right to another man's labor without paying for it
So you're fine with a return to slavery, then?

Hes right you know.
sage

Silocon Valley SJW's, amirite?

Sup JIDF slide thread

1. Nobody forbids you from exchanging money for medical services, entertainment of other life- and happiness-supporting stuff like food etc.
2. Israel needs more diversity and immigration from sub-saharan Africa, especially from the muslim countries

In a national socialist state healthcare would be subsidized by the state so that the people were fit enough for industrial and military service. The right to own firearms would also be maintained to give the people the ability to defend their nation against the aggression or outsiders who seek to undermine and destroy it.

You can have both Healthcare and Weapons, there is a better way a National Socialist way.

>liberty
>universal healthcare

obvious slide thread, sage

Yes it is, it's awful!
Some might even say that number is not way too high enough!

I'll accept universal healthcare when the gubbamints provides universal firearms to citizens.

Let's rephrase this. Republicans support our Bill of Rights.
Republicans do not support the expansion of government to provide healthcare paid for by taxpayers.

I like the added explatives, and the anime image. See people, this is why you have an editor review your work.

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Guns are objects.
Healthcare is made of people.
You can not buy a nurse dipshit.

>republicans believe in the freedom to spend money
>not in the freedom to get free stuff
wow
this really gets my noggin jogging

>military grade
Stopped reading there

that's because hard working conservatives don't want to pay for millions of deadbeat niggers and illegals healthcare. Do you understand now?

Are all Catalans this retarded

>noguns
>keep every sack of shit alive
>result: overpopulation, deforestation, smog, traffic, long lines for everything, everyone hates each other

>guns
>survival of the fittest
>result: small, elite population, healthy, strong, lots of living space, friendly society

For once I think the mutts are right about something.

Sage