Who was in the wrong here? Did Mitty really deserve to die? how could we be 100% sure that they are souless beings...

Who was in the wrong here? Did Mitty really deserve to die? how could we be 100% sure that they are souless beings? What if this is the real evolution of man by the Abyss where eventually after many thousands of years they will evolve becoming immortal God like beings. It just really makes me think

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Nanachi literally spells it out to Reg. Nanachi won't live forever, and when she's gone Mitty will have to fend for herself. She might not stave or be able to die normally, but she can still feel pain and suffer. Reg's incinerator is the only thing she'd found that could kill Mitty, and do it with a minimal amount of suffering.

I'll be honest here. I cried like a bitch.

Also, please tell me they're considering a second season

I will honestly mail my feces to whoever is in charge if they do not make another season.

It's not about whether she deserves to die or not, and proposing that she might still retain her soul gives you more reason to kill her, not less.

She's trapped forever in a shell of suffering. She only feels pain, can't communicate, can't act, can only sit and hurt. Death is a sweet relief from that terrible stagnation.

Go read 'I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream'.

>Who was in the wrong here?
>It just really makes me think
Why do you have to inject shitty memes into your posts, OP? I don't understand.

>Who was in the wrong here?
Bondrewd, duh.
>Did Mitty really deserve to die?
Mitty had no agency at that point. As Nanachi said, any "feelings" Mitty might display are just reflexes. The "Mitty" that Nanachi new was long gone. And much like a wet cigarette pack the choice to discard it is left to the owner.
>how could we be 100% sure that they are souless beings?
You can't 100% confirm anything in the Abyss.
But in my opinion the, fact that Rico was able to "communicate" with Mitty in her subconscious state, tells me they probably still have souls. But anything is just wishful thinking at this point.

The studio behind it is very passionate about the series and would probably love to do another season the problem is there isn't enough manga material out right now to do another full season so it may be a while if they do

>Also, please tell me they're considering a second season
I just hope the manga scanlation continues. Anime was great but was it popular enough for S2?

Nanachi can't actually know that Mitty only operates on reflexes. Imagine being Mitty and having a rudimentary understanding of what's going on around you while Nanachi tries to kill you. Not understanding why this is happening, knowing only that your best friend who promised to protect you is hurting you and won't stop no matter what you do. Imagine the betrayal.

Euthanasia, duh.

Meaty deserved to die because she would literally live on forever. She feels pain but regenerates. Did you not watch the fucking show?
>100% soulless beings
Did you watch the fucking show? It was literally explained in the last 2 episodes.

Wait so the scanlation group is lagging then?
> last chapter
> chapter 42 : Narehate Princess [LQ]
> uploaded 07-19 06:19
Just fucking kill me.

>Imagine being Mitty and having a rudimentary understanding of what's going on around you while Nanachi tries to kill you.
Mitty can move. If she was really horrified/had a rudimentary understanding of what's going on around her she would run away.
Also didn't Mitty tell Nanachi to kill her if she loses her humanity? If so, wasn't Nanchi just fulfilling her promise and Mitty accepting her fate?

Are you daft? Nanachi telling Reg that Mitty operates on reflexes is a lie he's telling himself. He needs to believe that Mitty is gone because the alternative is too painful.

she literally begged nananchi to kill her while they were in the tubes

>Nanachi can't actually know that Mitty only operates on reflexes.
Nanachi literally said, that real communication with Mitty is impossible. Since she is capable of movement this would be easy to test by giving her very simple instructions. If she can't follow them it would be highly unlikely that she's capable of thought. The only contrary explanation could be that she can perceive what Nanachi says but can't recat to it. But this is something that you could never rule out 100% in any way, so judging by the best of information Nanachi had, she had to conclude Mitty was basically a vegetable able to feeling pain at that point.

Sup Forums is the scantilation group.

This was exactly how my family put my dog down.

Laid him down on his bed with all his toys then blasted the fuck out of him with a giant laser.

Yeah, like paralyzed people irl...

this

x1000 this.

/thread

There's a reason we ultimately decide to kill people who don't wake up from comas.

I would not get your hopes up. I want a season 2 as much as the next dude but there's a few things to consider here-

1: There isn't enough material to begin with. The anime stops half way through chapter 26, the manga is at chapter 42. It'd need another ten chapters to make it work, and even then that assumes that chapter 52 is a good, logical point to stop it. Plus the author is prone to, 'it's done when it is done' syndrome.

2: The studio in question- Kinema Citrus- is likely planned out for the next year.

3: The surge in popularity the series has enjoyed in the last three episodes will need to be sustained. Prior to it's current sales figures- number 11 for anime BD's, number 1 for the OST- it was performing pretty poorly.

4: Someone will have to take it in good faith that in a year or two there will still be an audience for Made in Abyss.

The Japanese are far more willing to take on passion projects- especially the anime industry- but that doesn't mean they just ignore reality. Unpopular anime do not get season 2's and even successful ones wont.

I fucking broke like a faggot during that scene.

I'm sure there is probably a way to reverse it, and Mitty had all the time of eternity...

Who was in the wrong there? Well first you have to ask, what did they mean by that? maybe she was a big girl, for you that is something to consider, I know for a fact that Sup Forums will defend this regardless of the value they put into visual direction.

It will, as a matter of fact, really make you think.

Insight like this is a real diamond dozen.

Remember the dream that Riko had.
She was imprisoned and suffering.

gr8, I r8 8/8, m8.

Oh wow it is!
>Latest Release(s)
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>Status in Country of Origin
>6 Volumes (Hiatus until 2018)
I will live.

>The Japanese are far more willing to take on passion projects- especially the anime industry- but that doesn't mean they just ignore reality. Unpopular anime do not get season 2's and even successful ones wont.
So BD sales will talk, then.

Plus Nanachi had a valid point- at some time or another she was going to die, and then what? Mitty would be an eternal snack for some creature for all eternity? 'Deserve' really has nothing to do with it. Anything other than using all means necessary to destroy Mitty was only going to prolong her suffering for all eternity.

>So BD sales will talk, then.

Among other things. BD sales are not the only indicator for what market is present for a multimedia product. If you really want to support the chances of a second season there's more than just BD sales to consider- there's the manga and other knick knacky shit you can buy.

Is it actually good Sup Forums? I've been waiting til its over to hear the general consensus before I dive in. Was it endearing? Or edgy torture porn shit the likes of Elfen Leid?

shouldnt have made me laugh

Watch it and form your own damn opinion you fucking mongrel. If you can't decide whether you like something on your own after watching a few episodes, you're a lost cause.

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>implying she is dead

Can't prove you wrong.

Nah, it's good. Maybe not 10/10 material but it's still solid. Sound work, voice acting, visuals, a lot of heart went into making it compared to the seasonal bullshit you see every few months that screams, 'phoned in.'

nanachi can literally see how a creatures brain interacts with the force feild so it isn't unreasonable to assume she can see a difference between premeditated and/or sentient thought vs instinctual reactions.

No, it's terrible.

Thats to much work senpai
>its an ANN review
Eh on second thought maybe I better not...
Well thats good to know, I certainly felt that way from watching the first episode way back when it aired. Good to know it held up

Then you're a lost cause, famalam.

The only thing I'll say is that, if you're worried about gore, everything shown is the result of necessary action. There's no mindless killing for shock value.

>Who was in the wrong here? Did Mitty really deserve to die?
She didn't deserve to turn from tittymonster into a blob, but she's better off dead yeah. She's barely a functioning being at this point, akin to a human with severe brain damage. They shouldn't be alive.

Its great but everyone is calling it edgy because of episode 10 and 13.

Oh look, it's a contrarian.
See ya!

my youtube e-celeb says its good

>you are now aware mitty could've cured world hunger

Missed opportunity.

Good 'ole utilitarianism. Let one girl suffer for eternity, constantly feeling the pain of dying over and over again, so that everyone else can get fat.

The issue isn't food sources, we have more than enough for the whole world. The issue is distribution and human nature. Mitty wouldn't change that.

>doesn't want to sacrifice one's pain for the good of millions

Nice ethical views

That has serious repercussions in the long run, man.

One of those rare case when you can tell that the people who worked on the adaptation are loved the source material.

Heh, fuck you too.

Everything would have been fine if the Einzberns hadn't tried to cheat their way through the third Grail War by summoning Avenger.

Mitty could've created a cure to almost every disease and could've created an antidote every poison/venom out there.
But naaw let's just vaporize her instead. Not subarashii at all if you ask me.

How do you value a life. If you're using Mitty as a food source, you're going to effectively kill her each time you take enough food to feed a person. Assuming one death = food for one person, you're killing her millions of times to feed millions of people. It's effectively a 1 for 1 trade, but the difference is that Mitty comes back allowing you to reuse her for the next person, and she has to live through all that suffering, which makes it a fate worse than dying.

And that's only one meal. You'd be forcing her to die millions of billions of times every day, suffering more than you can possibly imagine, just to supplement food sources that we already have.

Mitty makes for a great example of why Utilitarianism isn't a good philosophy to follow.

It's VERY good, the manga is definitely better though.

>world hunger
Only exists because we're incompetent at distributing despite producing triple the food necessary to feed the entire world and Africa having enough fertile soil to feed everyone 15 times over.

I was fine with Bondrewd until I found out he's actually scalie filth who's existence is powered by a giant booty.

The couldn't carry another dead weight. Having Rico in the party is bad enough.

African starvation is necessary to control their population. The last thing this planet needs is millions of sub 80 IQ zombies breeding like rabbits thanks to the abundance of food.

i'm still not sure how the curse affects normal surface animals, but maybe papa could try swapping babies for puppies next time, just a thought. i mean we already use animals like this to create antivenom.

The better solution would be to let Africa fail, but we're too self absorbed in appearing like we're good people ourselves to let that happen.

Animals are entirely uneffected by the curse.

Animals that lack a higher conscience are immune to the curse.

It is already a massive failure. If consequentialism and utilitarianism are to be applied here, a huge genocide is required to finally make good use of all that rich land.

People breed like rabbits precisely because they don't have food. Higher quality of life almost always leads to smaller families due to the decrease in child mortality and less need to rapidly grow a working population.

>It is already a massive failure.
There's a difference between being a failure and actually failing. We refuse to let them properly fail by providing useless aid that only ultimately causes more problems. Those philosophies are too inhumane, and the better, simpler solution already exists: Let them fail.

Cut off all aid and let them run themselves down into the ground. Zimbabwe is a great example of their self destructive tendencies. Left to their own devices, they'll exterminate themselves in a generation.

Africa did just fine for thousands of years without foreign aid, cutting off all aid would ultimately not make much of a difference except perhaps reverting quality of life for those who currently enjoy modern comforts.

Reg specifying that he meant for Nanachi to not kill herself AFTER healing Riko and Nanachi hitching at that put the chink in the armor needed for this scene to really penetrate all the way through. The immediate cut to the bed being made was ruthless.

And that acting holy shit

I hope you have an account here.
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tl;dr IQ and birth rate correlation is around r=-.85

Africa is literally a time bomb of immesurable trash.

I wish I could have adopted Mitty and given her a good life. Her breasts would distract me all the time, but I would have fed her and made her feel loved.

happy bday mitty.

>IQ and birth rate correlation is around r=-.85
And correlation does not imply causation. It's not so simple as "dumb people have more kids" or "having more kids leads to dumber kids" or whatever.

There are so many nightmare scenarios for an immortal blob to go through, like becoming the self-replicating morsel of one intelligent monster, or getting buried alive suffering suffocation for a LONG time, getting stuck at the bottom of a lake and drowning every other minute.

Call me an autist one more time.
It was ripped out straight from this scene. They didn't even try to hide it, i barely edited the start times.
Do you see the light ?

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>You'd be forcing her to die millions of billions of times every day
she doesnt regenerate that fast user and you would need a factory to churn out that much Meaty Mitty Meat in an organized fashion

"I will describe myself as I see myself:"

“I am a great soft jelly thing. Smoothly rounded, with a gaping hole with no jaw where my mouth once was, with pulsing red holes filled by tears where my eyes used to be. Clawed appendages that were once my arms; bulks rounding down into legless humps of soft slippery matter. I leave a moist trail when I move. Blotches of diseased, evil pink come and go on my surface, as though light is being beamed from within. Outwardly: dumbly, I shamble about, a thing that could never have been known as human, a thing whose shape is so alien a travesty that humanity becomes more obscene for the vague resemblance. Inwardly: alone. Here. Living in this shack, under the sea, in the belly of the Abyss, whom we delved into because our curiosity was badly judged and we must have known unconsciously that Bonedrewd was lying to us. At least Nanachi is safe at last. Bonedrews will be all the happier for that. It makes me a little sad. And yet ... Bonedrewd has won, simply ... he has taken his science ...

I have no mouth. And I must scream.”

Would you sacrafice thousand criminals to save one innocent or sacrafice one innocent to save thousands of criminals?
It's not just about the numbers but also the quality.

Just because you "feel fine" doesnt mean you cant stop taking your medication.

In her case, I have a mouth and I scream a lot.

Does it really matter though?
Low IQ people are hardly people, we'll suffocate as a specie if low IQ is allowed to keep breeding.

/thread, OP clearly didn't even watch it

it fits pretty dang well

I hope anime-onlys don't read the manga only to find out that nanachi forgives bondrewd and shows him (some) mercy
really activated my almonds in all the wrong ways

Nanachi did the right thing.

And you think humans wouldn't do that?

What did she saw on him?

Thank you. You give peace to my torment. This youtube doubler is the best i'll ever get out of this scene unless someone talented edits the two together.

Forgiving him is a big word
she lets go because he's obviously insane and there's nothing she can do to him that would actually hurt
plus she's got her fair share of blood on her hands between her helping daddy and experimenting on random people

Even Nanachi understands the good his scientific quest for knowledge could do for the world

Hiary Bonerdude movie when?

I hope they don't and it gets a second season, because I'd rather see their reactions all together when that episode airs. They already seem convinced that if the abyss is hell, he's satan.

She expected him to be more evil than he was. Even if she'll never forgive him, she feels conflicted about it. It's really fucked up but he was probably the closest she ever had to a father figure.

Mitty didn't deserve to die, but she didn't deserve to live either.

I think that Mitty was aware of everything to some extent, and Nanachi knew it too. That's why she pretended to "save" Mitty from Reg to catch her of guard so she could die without fully realizing what was happening.

Imagine being a immortal blob that can hardly move or communicate but you could still feel pain. That is truly a fate worse than death. Mitty would end up constantly eaten by abyss creatures screaming in pain eternally.

Thanks for the translation, ESL-kun.

Nah she just realized how fucked up he is and she basicaly can't damage him any further after Reg destroyed his base and all of his useful replacement body.

Sooo, that masked faggot actually has a moving platform to go safely from the top to the bottom in one way? How come nobody knows about it?

>I'll be honest here. I cried like a bitch.
Same here. The whole storyline made ME want to die at multiple points. I should have listened to you guys when you said there would be suffering. I thought you meant like the usual anime suffering, not this. 10/10, would suffer again.

>Did Mitty really deserve to die?

wasn't even a question of "deserving," how did you even come up with this

are you dense

Who are you talking about? I dont believe there is any such platform