Why are you against free migration, Sup Forums? According to economists, open borders would double the world's real GDP

Why are you against free migration, Sup Forums? According to economists, open borders would double the world's real GDP.

>open borders would double the world's real GDP.

And it would half the world's real IQ.

That makes no sense.

> filthy nigger apes that invented stick in 50000 years
> mudslime apes that can only explode and attack humans with trucks
> POO IN LOOS
Not really

Also gr8 b8 m8

Who is this semen demon?

What have you ever invented in your life?

I am not a nigger so at least I have a chance

>average wages rise
>median wages fall
>implying this is a good thing

what are you, a fascist or something?

Lets test it on Israel first

Because Migration is a warmongering policy, that when used incorrectly spells the downfall of one's culture.
This, You successfully manage to get a large group of immigrants into Jerusalem, id change my mind.

>putting the gross in gross domestic product

Why are you against free migration, Sup Forums? According to socialists, open borders would destroy every nations social and welfare system.

I don't give a fuck about GDP, fuck niggers and subhuman vermin

If you want to raise your living standards get a job and stop waiting for some sort of magical government gibs like universal income or "higher GDP due to migration"

Stupid kid

show flag Shlomo

>let them in
>actually let everybody in
>IT WILL INCREASE MONEY

PFFFFFFTT

underrated post

As important as the economy is, some things matter more, nobody wants better wages but increased chances of the women being raped, or better GDP with massive rise in knife crime and acid attacks.

but brits are subhuman too, almost like a slavs, german too, french maybe not, not sure.

I never mentioned money in this thread.

Drop the meme flag, show yourself, your either a leaf or a Jew.

Are you happy now?

Potentially a butthurt German who's father was the spawn of communist rapists sometime in 1945

Open borders is the opposite of "government gibs", retard.

>mfw this thread again
kys OP

Maybe you should have

Literally an outright lie with no real evidence to back it up.

On the contrary, it would cause massive never-before-seen levels of violent crimes because of all the niggers raping and murdering over 5£ and machete killings because of all the rabid muslims that would be free to go into "infidel" countries without any checkpoint and kill whoever they wanted. To top it off, violent gangs like in Mexico would be free to do whatever they wanted because there wouldn't be any territorial borders to stop their filth from seeping into the neighbouring countries.

Also, sage

Why should I care about money? Only real economic factors matter in the long run.

A leaf-jew who lives in muttland. Who would have thought.

isn't gdp a measurement of income?

Yeah, it's the total income in an economy and the total value of the goods and services produced in the economy. What's your point?

...

How does this table define "welfare recipient"? The biggest transfer program in the US is social security and the overwhelming majority of the recipients of the transfer payments are old white people.

Where's your argument? Why should economists care about money?

This is a great idea. Israel, open your borders.

>What's your point?
>What's your point?
>What's your point?

always they say that

Do you know the definition of money?

How does that? Africans will double European gdp after they move? What are they talking about?

Everyone should open their borders, including Israel.

I just assumed the gdp, which has to do with income, correlated with the budget of those individuals that create that income, I dont know

What do you mean old?

The idea is that a typical African is much more productive in Europe or America than he is in his native country. A Somali may only produce $1000 worth of goods and services if he stays in Somalia but may be able to produce $30,000 worth of goods and services in a year as a taxi driver in New York City.

because GDP is not a direct measure of quality of life. The GDP of the US increases every year, but does translate to a better life for you?

I say again

what
could
go
wrong
?

have you asked yourself this?

Economists have thought about the negative externalities. And the consensus is that the huge gains in world GDP overwhelms any potential negative externality from open borders.

>according to economists

Stopped reading there. Economic forecasts are 100% guaranteed to always be total billshit.

Economics is not a science, it’s a tool to illustrate principles of human behaviour under certain conditions. The assumptions that underpin economic modelling are always flawed and only serve to illustrate what should happen IF they held, which they never do.

So it's the same job but with artificial price? What about demand and supply? Once all retards move to the first world retard jobs will be worth in the first world what they're worth elsewhere. Also what about the destruction immigrants bring?

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

>immigrants they said
>we will be rich they said

Keynesianism has nothing to do with labor economics & migration economics so I don't know why you posted that image.

Yet the Negros are a net receiver of Tax dollars, while Whites are the only demographic that actually pay into the Tax system, on avg. over their lives. Therefore, the increasing number of Negros in the 1st world, leads to an increasing amount of welfare and redistribution of wealth out of the productive White communities and into the unproductive, unintelligent Negro peoples. This is less wealth for the productive peoples to utilize and more wealth for the unproductive to squander.

Your entire premise is littered with flaws.

The first world is subsidizing the 3rd worlders standard of living but there are far too many 3rd world savages to possibly raise everyone up, on our backs.

Yeah it will make the capitalist ologarchs twice as rich and the native average people twice as poor,plus crime,rape,terrorism etc.

Capitalists are equal to socialists. Fascism is the future.

>20% unemployment, twice that for people aged 18-24
>Shit wages because too many applicants and not enough offerings
>Automation about to destroy millions of jobs
>Hey let's bring in even more people to compete for jobs!

How retarded do you have to believe this?

Say that when you get your ass shanked in a gang war between shitskins,or are you some sheltered fagg that will live in a gated comunity?

Go ahead and read your macroeconomics textbook. The business cycle and high unemployment has nothing to do with immigrants. Blame your politicians and your central bank for not managing the business cycle well, not immigrants.

I live in a mostly non-white city. Most of my cohort in grad school is non-white. So of my professors are non-white. It has not been an issue.

All those economist who claim to know what's going to happen yet have relatively little wealth?
I don't care about the world's GDP. You want to be a free-wandering brown drone for the powers that be? Go ahead, but leave me out of it.

The image says that a economic activity valued at 0 can make grow GDP as much as you want, I dig a hole for 5 million for you then I pay you back for fillings the hole with 5 million. The gdp is now 10 millions more. It's like the taxi driver example, people making same stuff as always won't make us richer.


And the supply and demand is easy to understand. Job wages are determined by that mechanism the more supply the lower the wages. Since immigrants are retarded people, the works those people do will experience an increase in supply (unless you think they can be doctors and engineers).

So instead of having to compete with 99 people for a shit tier entry level job, I would have to compete with 9999 people, all of them willing to work for a few cents per hour in much worse conditions. And this is somehow good for me. Lol.

Bottom line: there are not enough jobs, sorry.

Whether you are a net recipient of payments is not a measure of your productivity. Your real wage is a measure of your productivity. Immigrants work and earn wages. That means that they're productive members of the economy.

>open borders would double the world's real GDP.

I'm not particularly enthused about making a few oligarchs ultra rich and praying for their scraps, thank you very much.
Stop falling for neoliberal brainwashing about GDP being some sort of ultimate holy grail.

I unironically think that in a couple hundred years, fascism will rise

heritage + culture > some percent of economy growth

Because those migrants will vote democrat/socialist 90% of the time and destroy our society.

There's no way the world's real GDP would double with a bunch of socialist paradises.

Only fucking idiots cite studies like that. They're the same morons who talk cite that article from Huffpo about how Denmark is the Happiest place in the world because of socialism (it's not).

I mean fuck, what kind of uninformed dunce flies the black and yellow flag and hasn't read Hoppe?

I don't think Social Security should be definied as welfare. It's structured more to be like a pension, but is in fact a massive Ponzi/redistribution scheme and a regressive tax that disproportionately impacts poors.

What does this even mean? Your culture isn't a fixed set of values and norms. Germany's culture has changed dramatically over time. Some of the norms in your country that you regard as German were probably introduced by immigrants of yore.

Because this thread is a copypasta.

Yes. Good goy. You get it. Now bend over and spread your asshole for israel.

Native born populations already vote for socialists. It makes no difference if immigrants vote for socialists.

>may

they don't tho. also with that logic I could move to somalia and retire on $26700

Are you German? I suppose not, because then you would know that German culture is dead. We don't have one. All killed my Muhammadloving sandniggers and subhuman scum

>Whether you are a net recipient of payments is not a measure of your productivity.
The ability or inability to produce enough wealth to be self-sustainable and not an economic drain on your Nation, is not a measure of productivity? Incredible.

>Your real wage is a measure of your productivity. Immigrants work and earn wages. That means that they're productive members of the economy.
If you spend 10M a year to produce 1M worth of wealth, are you produced or consumed?

You have to prove to me how bringing in an, on avg. less productive people will raise the avg. production of our societies. You understand mathematics right user? If we have an avg. of 100 and you bring in a 10 into the data series, what happens to your avg?

Spoken like a true neoliberal, dishonest idiot.
Next we'll get stuck on the "but what is white?" hill for you basic idiots to die on for the billionth time.

>you're already burning on your finger, so what difference does it make if you cover yourself in gasoline?

Every day, more ancaps and libertarians realize their ideology is cutting it's own throat if it doesn't wake up to the reality of voting patterns. Smarmy reactions on Sup Forums will not change this, you are on your way to destruction if you do not realize facts.

It would double the total GDP and destroy the middle class and basically 99.999% of the non poor.

Are you huffing paint?

In a world without borders, taxation and the welfare state wouldn't exist.
Several niggers, spics, neets and white trash would die within 2 months in Ancapistan

Not him, but I invented a cocktail. It's like a Fuzzy Navel, but instead of peach schnapps, I use 99 Peaches liqueur. And instead of vodka, Everclear.

I call it "Nectarine Kerosene", for its flavor profile and flammability.

I agree OP, we don't need borders
>But they will steal our welfare
user, the welfare state will get abolished

Ignore shill threads

I'd rather live in a beautiful cohesive society without crime, rape, niggers for a few les gdp points. Where I don't have to break my back 50 hours a weak to barely scrap by so a few jews up top could enjoy the benefit of a few gdp points, OP you're a filthy dumb nigger with autism that's why you're a fucking ancap

(((Economists)))

California is a very good example of the type of system you are proposing. Have a deep look at the history of that state before you come to such a radical conclusion. I laugh when I hear Californians talk about their GDP being any sort of acceptable measure of growth, wealth, or high standard of living, because what has happened there is the complete opposite of all of those things. They’re on their way to a 2 class system of extremely wealthy and extremely poor. Really makes me think why there are many wealthy people supporting this liberal cause for the rest of the developed world.

>A Somali may only produce $1000 worth of goods and services if he stays in Somalia but may be able to produce $30,000 worth of goods and services in a year as a taxi driver in New York City.

When there are 4 millions of somalians who will that affect taxi driver wages? Supply and demand will be worth less than 1000$

Race is more important than coke being two cents cheaper.

>every country on earth finally agrees to open their boarders after many years of propaganda
>some realise that no boarders = one boarder and thus the world unites as one state
>everything goes to shit
>1984.jpg

That seems to be a monetary system problem rather than a people problem, by your own example.

>sacrificing social coherence to drive the economy

Capitalists pls

...and welfare spending would double.

>this retarded thread again

>Massive influx of low skill workers in markets already oversaturated with them
>Wages plummet, prices skyrocket
>Corporatist shits reap the benefits
>Wealth inequality reaches beyond Brazilian levels
>Crime soars as gibsmedats sit around unemployed with nothing to do but indulge their violent instincts
>Governments become ever more authoritarian to crack down on their expanding slave class
>While blaming remaining minority of whites for their unprecedented racism because some of them have the temerity to make ineffective attempts to fight back

So where we're heading anyway in the west, just a lot faster.

>Jews take over subject
>Jews abandon scientific method for consensus
>Discipline falls into disrespect
Many such cases

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Because I don't give jack shit about muh GDP.
I care about the survival of my people and in an open border world, we Finns would be demographically displaced in our own homeland within few decades.

And how long will it take for said countries to implode after taking in all those immigrants into their territory? Can your economist ensure the further existence of social cohesion, necessary for said countries to work properly? What benefit does Europe for instance has for taking in millions of "refugees" and migrants, who cannot compete with the local population in any regards, additionally to the already existing sky rocketing numbers of youth unemployment on the continent? The only thing you will achieve will be social unrest and civil war all over the place. I dare to do this in your own area and tell us how it worked out. Until then you should just keep your idiocy to yourself.

Im sure socialists also know that getting droppes from a helicopter will kill someone. You dont have to believe the opposite of your enemy at all times just because its your enemy. Thats just opening yourself to be controlled, which im sure you are aware of otherwise you wouldnt have said this.