By what standards was the USSR actually Communist? I'm asking a serious question...

By what standards was the USSR actually Communist? I'm asking a serious question, were they actually successful in creating successful classless communities for any length of time, or was it just all on paper? The idea that 'everyone owns the means of production' is so theoretical and abstract. How did this actually apply, or was it just talk?

The same standard that any society is communist. It's people fell for the communism meme, revolution happened, and the new regime took power just as intended.

Communism is a bait and switch scheme, user. Nothing more.

Soviet Union was communist in name only. In fact, it was a higly stratified tyrannical system, with hereditary aristocracy at the top and rightless masses at the bottom that, under Stalin's, rule were almost slaves, and later were hardly different from serfs.

But, then, given that communist ideology led to the same kind of tyranny everywhere it was ever tried, we must assume that this IS what communism is like. So, yeah, Soviet Union was communist indeed.

It was heavily fucking socialist.
GOVERNMENT OWNED EVERYTHING, THERE WAS NO PRIVATE PROPERTY LMAO
There was some allowance of personal property limited to personal belongings, a car and whatnot.

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There was an initial Soviet democracy that Lennon intentionally destroyed in favor of a western factory/office style heirarchical management system.

In the truest sense of the word, no.

I was a stage towards communism whereby a strong state is needed to stop reactionary backlash but was unfortunately ground down by western capitalist imperialism, something Marx underestimated was the bourgeosies ability to counter-act communism.

>a strong state is needed to stop reactionary backlash
Yes that's what the professors of marxism used to teach in schools as society transitioned from socialism to communism. Only the transition never really happens. Like today we are transitioning from socialism to capitalism, stuck in this mixed economy of loans and subsidies.

the transition from state socialism to communism can't happen until communism is implemented globally by building it in one country at a time and all vestiges of capitalist thought and bourgeois reactionary backlash are wiped out.

It wasn't. Soviet leadership never claimed to be communist, only that we were heading towards it.
USSR was socialist at best. Because communism is unachievable.

Or the party becomes the soul political power casting the proletariat into forced serfdom i.e Russia, China, nor. Korea etc. Communism cannot work because it is not a freedom for system but a freedom from system. Freedom from the "privileged ".

Because there's no free market in real life. And there is not a single one pure capitalist society. All western countries are mixed economies and nobody with at least a brain cell claims otherwise.

Their own. It's implicit in the name, tard. Holy shit it just keeps getting worse around here.

Communism is anarchy that's been deliberately and thoughtfully put into place. It's anarchy where before hand all the peoples beliefs systems, and the physical infrastructure and systems have been prepared so it runs smoothly when there's no real oversight.

When something labels itself as "communist" they usually mean that's their goal. You can be a die hard capitalist like China and call yourself communist, because that's (if you believe them) their goal in the end.

The USSR was socialist - it's in their name. Not sure if they're goal was still communism though, dropping it like North Korea did like in the 90s...

Why are americans so ignorant and dumb?
>Their own.
By soviet own definition USSR wasn't communist. Only that we were "heading" towards communism, and that it was a transitional stage.
>It's implicit in the name, tard.
Yeah, right. Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics. As for "communist" party. Yeah, it was just the party's name, not a form of society. As we say here: "A "dick" is written on a shed, but there are logs inside it."

>Everyone owns
Means we own you. Some little piggys are always more equal than others.

That is such an impossible and dangerous prerequisite, and is why Marx is one of the most irresponsible and witless mass murderers in all history for writing it in his dumbass manifesto.

It wasnt communism. It was SOCIALISM!!! They were building communism. Ask any old russian who lived in USSR and he will tell you that he was a socialist. Communism was an idea they tried to reach. Even USSR means Unit of Soviet SOCIALISTIC Respublics

The cuisine of course.

What a stupid post