What's wrong with living a lonesome, humble and frugal existence?

what's wrong with living a lonesome, humble and frugal existence?

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>Teleports behind you
>Psst, nothing personnel, woodhut

man his cabin is so comfy

What style architecture is that?

Nothing. Fuck Anprims and Luddites, though. Technology can be okay once in a while.

You're not in massive debt giving all your shekles to Dinkleberg.

I mean this is perfectly fine as well I'm just wondering why in general people get so uptight, especially to me, about the topic at hand.

This

I want a comfy cabin with wifi.

I think you fucking nailed it actually.

Nothing wrong with it.

>I want a comfy cabin with wifi.

Me too.

I think Neo-Renaissance, but I'm not sure, it's most likely a mixture of different styles.
A sculptor was building it without any architectural experience, until his death in the 1930s.
>A sculptor with zero experience has made a better building than every architect in the second half of the 20. century
The absolute state of Western civilization

Nothing
I want to get away from it all and go hermit mode

how can I conquer the world like that ?

Because society needs Beta males "participating" in society to pay for the bad decisions of women.

Minimalism means less skekels. That is why so many will shame this lifestyle.

That's "My Self Reliance" look him up, he's awesome with his doggo building his cabin with only hand tools.

nothing
I plan to do so, but with vidya, books and intenrets

Nothing except for the lonesome part

When I'll get older I'll emigrate to Alaska to spend the rest of my life in a comfy hut.

Some people are forced to be.

>why in general people get so uptight, especially to me, about the topic at hand
Because it's almost impossible in the 21. century, and it's not as comfy as your over-romanticized pic makes it look like.
This is reality:
nationalgeographic.com/photography/proof/2015/02/20/for-these-hungarians-home-is-where-the-farm-is/

Dick Proenneke did it

youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss

No I'm not romanticizing it I just couldn't find an appropriate picture. Maybe I should have put a picture of the ninja turtles sewer. Or some ghetto or something. Still I don't see what the problem is.

But yeah your link is very close to what my reality is.

Nothing.

It's just increasingly hard to do. You need seed capital and going it alone is so much harder than having a community of likeminded people working together. The problem is that while that's floated as an idea over and over people are too spread out, the people interested are too poor, or they're flooded with "commune" commies who are just worthless and without any skills.

>Fuck Anprims and Luddites, though. Technology can be okay once in a while.

This is a secondary problem. Separating from society is easier than ever thanks to technology. You can have electricity and internet out in the sticks. But once again the "community" is flooded with primitivists.

There are basically CNC modded farming equipment rigs now that look extremely promising. Sensors detect weeds and remove them, automatically water, automatically till soil, saving huge amounts of time growing produce. Aquaponics and indoor growing is more efficient than ever before.

Goy, why won't you take out a $300k mortgage that takes 30 years and 500k to pay back?

This happened when my parents were buying their house. 200k. The bank approved them for 500k and were totally confounded when they only bought a 200k house. They tried REPEATEDLY to convince them to buy a more expensive house.

"Are you sure? You know you can afford something more expensive."

No, this one is fine. "Are you suuuuure?"

If you go live innacabin innawoods you're not funding (((bankers))), which is why they shill against a minimalist lifestyle. Bonus points for them if you pay most of it off, then they jack up the property taxes so you can no longer afford it and they take your house.

I know what farm life looks like, and believe me it's not too comfy.
Feeding the animals, cleaning their shit, slaughtering them, preparing their meat, while you also have to grow veggies and fruit. This requires a lot of work. Also, the hay and wheat won't pay for itself.
And we didn't even live a fully independent life. People abandoned this lifestyle for a reason. It's not profitable, you still have to work your guts out, and you can't live your life fully. Your life is stagnating, even though the desire to move forward is in human nature. Only people who went crazy from the daily rat race choose this life.

>what's wrong with living a lonesome, humble and frugal existence?
Just so you know that being lonely, being alone, is not that bad necessarily.
It gives you opportunity to be close with God,if you chose that relation of course.
You are not disturbed by others, it's only you and God.
So don't get this to get you depressed too much user.
There is a positive side to being alone, lonely.

^Listen to him^
he knows the real aspects of this romantic fantasy.

nothing, but i have a problem with actualizing lonesome, fucking germany is one of the most populated places on earth (imagine minnesota with a population of 80 million ) so even if i try to go in some shitty wood to live in my frugal but cozy shack every five minutes some motherfucker would stumble across my lawn, so fuck off .

Could be part of a network of families that can always retreat back into nothingness, then reemerge as they need to. But you first need to plant your seeds in some women, make the connections. Make your children self-reliant. That is something worthy to strive for.

Posts like these make me wish for a day the US dollar would finally collapse and we could just gas these fucking tax collectors and bankers with their entire extended friends and family.

Yes I've learned this lesson. It's one of the few things I keep with me.

Nobody here has the fortitude for it. Giving up salty snacks and video games and Internet porn and carbonated beverages? For what exactly?

If I lived in a beautiful Nordic latitude I would have done this a very long time ago.

But no, I live in a hot fucking biological disaster zone coz coons were too stupid to hunt without burning all the vegetation down.

What exactly is the minimalist lifestyle though?

>What exactly is the minimalist lifestyle though?
refusing to masturbate.

He's also a very skilled craftsman...I suspect many people that want to live his lifestyle don't have his skillset

nothing. but (((they))) will get you with (((property tax)))

Jerking off and trees.

>What exactly is the minimalist lifestyle though?

Anti-consumerism. Fewer things, smaller living space, reusing old things instead of buying new ones, fixing things instead of just throwing it out.

Japan is often used as an inspiration but of course we know how messy and full of tech waste japan really is. The articles are written by western yuppies who idealize empty japanese house interiors.

It's also a design concept that's really consumerist at heart; prioritizing expensive designer goods, but having fewer of them. It means all these things because there's no unified answer to what the alternative to modern life and values is. Minimalism can be compatible with a homesteading ideal, with disconnecting from society, but more often it's just a way of remaining in society, with your office job and having a scaled down, less cluttered life with less things.

The problem is that you're not taking care of a woman, paying her bills and gifting her a child that you are blessed by God to pay for.

Update your PoF profile right now, Goy.

So basically being efficient with one's spending habits. I do that already, but I'm autist so that probably helps.

>falling for the marriage meme

>What exactly is the minimalist lifestyle though?
1. Food
2. Water
3. Shelter
4. the Woman
5. the Dogs
6. Me

the rest is optional

I've thought about this before, but the simple isolated life is a romantic idea but not a realistic one.

Things like growing your own food to sustain yourself, cutting your own wood, that's back breaking work, problems that society in general has solved with machines and all they rely on.

On top of that, the moment you get seriously ill or need dental work doing you'll be crying miserably for 1st world medicine.

I'd love to go live in a hut in the middle of no where and isolate myself and be completely independent but when you really think about what that really implies, it's miserable existence in many ways.

Most of us certainly would not make it more than a few months that's for fucking sure, modern men are weak as fuck.

>the Woman
The wrong woman can really wreck your world though.

Also add transportation...something like a corolla. If minimalists had to design a car, a corolla would be it.

Why have a woman when you already have a dog.

This is true, trading one set of problems for another. Smart minimalism would be just buying a cost efficient home with few luxuries here and there, no need to take it to extreme levels.

Show your flag, leaf.

Because it's a rejection of technology which benefits society in great and wonderous ways. It brought us tiny computers in our pockets, games to bond us to our friends, even the wonder of solar electricity. It's okay if you wanna live in a cabin to occasionally disconnect and find your place in the world but just living to survive is a meaningless life, and therefore a wasted life. What will you leave behind as a legacy? "This is user, he just survived on the bare essentials". That's all, it's unimpressive and I'll be damned if I'm not gonna be known for something a bit better than that. You should want that too.

>cutting your own wood, that's back breaking work

There are entire sawmills you can operate with one person. Automatic wood splitters aren't that expensive. It's really not as hard as you suggest to chop wood with an axe either. It's something you do a few times a year and then use your stores.

> the moment you get seriously ill or need dental work doing you'll be crying miserably for 1st world medicine.

Which is why you want a nest egg left to help you out and not to be there alone. Most things aren't serious and you can deal with them yourself. Most people that remote (and you're presupposing you need to be way out in the sticks for some reason?) have emergency radio and sat phones and they will get airlifted out.

>but when you really think about what that really implies, it's miserable existence in many ways.

Why are you suggesting it only works one way? You're talking like the primitivist lifestyle on your own is all there is. The future for people who want to get away from the insanity of cities is small communities with just enough to be largely self sustaining, and with side incomes in various forms. With internet and electricity you can still work as a freelancer on the side and many do.

how do you do repairs? whats the point? whats the cost to heat it and electricity? what about mold buildup? its not the 6th century anymore retards.

>needing a vehicle

pathetic.

I dont know if you have noticed but the human race is degenerating. IQ is dropping year after year, T levels are decreasing, puberty age is decreasing, semen quality and count is decreasing.

An econobox like a corolla makes life 100x easier.

Doesn't mean you should give up. Have a bunch of kids, raise them Sup Forums, they'll have kids and raise them right, and you will have created a strong bloodline. Giving up before you haven't even tried is pretty beta mate, the creators of the first computer didn't give up because things looked impossible.

>how do you do repairs?
You replace bricks or tiles. What's the question here?
>whats the point?
To escape the foul degeneracies of modern society and possibly connect with ones heritage
>whats the cost to heat it and electricity?
However much it costs you to obtain blankets and clothing. Electricity is for Jews.
>what about mold buildup?
What about it?
>its not the 6th century anymore retards.
No, but the only way we're gonna have a future is if we look back to the past for help

This that your way of saying 4th reich?

This, grew up on a dairy farm. The "country" life that is so romanticized is not actually that comfy. Tbh it's actually the opposite because you look outside into the pouring rain on a 36 degree day and think holy fuck it's nasty outside. Then you open the door and do the daily chores you have no choice in for hours as you suffer miserably. Want to go somewhere? Better make sure someone can watch the animals or you can only leave for the hours between chores. Unless you don't have animals. Then if it's winter and you heat with wood you have to make sure the stove is either full for the time you will be gone, or you don't have any plumbing. Speaking of wood heat, enjoy being a slave to your stove offering it daily sacrifices of wood.

nothing.

a small village in the mountains in bumfuck nowhere would be a good compromise. None of this tiresome city living bullshit,.

i really should have just used this picture instead

Says the guy posting on a uzbekistani cum gargling competition site

>There are entire sawmills you can operate with one person.
For the cost of a small house sure.
>Automatic wood splitters aren't that expensive.
Several thousand. Only worth it if you are doing a shitton of wood. Otherwise just split during the frozen times, wood pops nice when froze. Except white oak, holy fucknuggets.
>It's really not as hard as you suggest to chop wood with an axe either.
I used to use an axe, better just to get a chainsaw.

Heres what you want for basic woodcuttin:
>Splitting maul
>Chainsaw
>Wedges
If you want to use an axe be my guest, but enjoy splitting the wood from the side because you can't stand it up.

I'm sure there's some balance that can be struck between being completely isolated and relying on society. It does beg the question exactly how will you pay the other people for the outside luxuries you want like medical care.

If you're independently wealthy and have a pot of cash you can dip into then fine, most people don't. And things like chopping wood and growing food are absolutely back breaking work, you literally have to work all day tending to everything.

Let's put it this way, before modern agriculture about 80% of the population was involved in growing the food supply, today it's about 3%, and most of that is thanks to machinery and technology and the unimaginable supply chain of goods and services they rely on.

I had a hippie friend who was moaning about society and having to work, and she thought that retreating to like an all natural commune who were self sufficient would be some awesome idea, until I was like...well get an allotment and try and grow just your own food, and then compare that to your cushty office job.

We don't know how good we've got it.

You've given up on civilization and one day the malformed mutts will come to your door with hungry glazed eyes reflecting little intelligence and rape you bloody

you are delusional. why cant you understand this?

Go move out to your shed then see if your problems go away

I've basically lived in one my whole life. There is nothing wrong with it. I have problems but so does everyone. At the end of the day you are the only thing you have control over.

Honestly? Nothing at all. Just don't go full retard like anarchist-primitives or technophobes and shit.

No access to medicine and the doctor

I love this channel.
It's called My Self Reliance

Death to the modern world.

Didn't the guy in the thumbnail make a timelapse of him creating that cabin all by himself?

Don't we all.

I was being a dick. I am sure it's pleasant. Do you use a wood stove for heat?

nothing if you have awesome internet.

Watching thins shortfilm always fills me with the feeling that there is something to living a solitary life with purpose

youtube.com/watch?v=KTvYh8ar3tc

Nothing wrong with it.
Though as someone who wants humanity to advance to the stars, we need science/civilization working together.

Every extended family in norway has a cabin.
either on the mountain or down by the sea, many have both.

Most of them are quite minimalist. It does the kids good to live a little closer to nature.

lel
can always find the one 90 IQ nigger in 10 million

this

Fuck the internet.

nothing, go get it user, god i'd be so god damn proud of you! seriously live that dream!

Growing food is backbreaking work - ONLY during harvesting and planting.

Every other time of the year it is very simple maintenance.

We had so many people working agriculture because agriculture wasn't efficient enough to centralize and monopolize it. A number of things changed that, like the process that extracts nitrogen from the atmosphere to fertilize soil.

Population increased eventually overtake youi solitude.

>what's wrong with living a lonesome existence?
the lonesomeness

Being poor is for losers.

Its nice but, it gets old after a while.

ah, good old cancer.

being a greedy and materialistic jew is for subhumans

Nice cartoon.

Most families in maine have that too. But we call them camps.

that's some nice carpet

Consumer culture is all about comparison.

Comparison is future-oriented. (focused on what is missing, creating anxiety)
Gratitude is present-oriented. (focused on what you have, creating peace)

>If you're independently wealthy and have a pot of cash you can dip into then fine, most people don't. And things like chopping wood and growing food are absolutely back breaking work, you literally have to work all day tending to everything

If you’re below a certain threshold of income in the US get Medicaid. So assuming you have zero USD income means you get that.

Society will label you a loser lower on the social ladder than a guy with a Filipino wife.

Dumb Magyar, why are you comparing a castle to a log cabin that was literally built by one man all on his own?
youtube.com/watch?v=7rgGEkI510Q

Because that castle was also built by a man on his own