Cucked north west Europe

Why is north west Europe so reluctant to join the populist/nationalist movement? There are lots of based German, British, Dutch, Swedish anons here. But over all, your country are majority cuck and should be mocked mercilessly

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Normies that can't be bothered

Italy are saviors of Europe

Italys economy is awful tho. Europe won't change until the people of Germany and U.K. Wake up from their post ww2 slumber.

The UK must be the most pathetic of all. In any non pozzed country after the rotheram scandal labour would disappear, yet they are still there with based jazza

Because people in northern and western Europe tend to be wealthier and more educated.

Wealthier and more educated people tend to understand the benefits of immigration and globalism in economic terms.

Nationalists and populists are mostly poor uneducated retards so obviously you'll see more of them in places like Poland and Sicily.

Or they tend to be unsocial and work all damn day without spending much time with friends and family. Thus they feel a lot more disconnected when to it comes to family, friends and ultimately state.
While the poorer states still maintain strong family relationships, strong friendships etc so they feel more connected to their culture.

I don’t like those poor fucks but I strongly think this is the case.

It's my generation (18+) that are fucked up with jezza loving. Older generations don't like him as much

Protestantism+liberalism+1968 neomarxism = complete atomization, materialism, individualism.

Too wealthy, calculating and (((educated))) for their own good. Tribalism is a survival INSTINCT. You can reason yourself out of it in certain circumstances.

What's the definition of populist?

>liberalism + marxism
What the fuck are you even talking about? Those are opposing ideologies.

>Tribalism is a survival INSTINCT
Yes, and? Just because something is instinctive or natural doesn't mean it's good.

It is usually understood as a leader that takes the side of what the people want and think its right, contrary to leaders that present a solution that they themselves made.

Not liking the current establishment I guess. There are many definitions of populism and nobody cares about them anyway. Journalists just call anyone who is seen as coming from outside the " respactable opinion spectrum" on current issues.

What the hell is populism. It supposed to be related to making popular but impossible promises. How deporting all non-whites or at least all refugees is impossible?

everyone I dont like

Which won't be until too fucking late most likely.

> gets stabbed
Nothing personal, at least you are not that stupid racist.

Rich coming from a country that has been a two party state for well over a century.

They trust the media and live in the la la land.

You make a good case, that's clearly evident here in America if you were to travel between a rural area, and a densely urbanized area.

why are they saying populism is bad? isn't the point of democracy to cater to your people?

>What the fuck are you even talking about? Those are opposing ideologies.

So what? Both come from the Enlightenment. Both were very popular in the last 200 years and both fucked your country up each in their own way. If you think Liberalism is any good imagine Sargon of Akkad being in charge of confronting ISIS in your country - forever.

This actually makes sense. Wealthy people are the biggest virtue signalers. They don't have to deal with their decisions right away.... also their wealth allows them to better influence politics.

Because it would lead to mass civil unrest, bloodshed, economic collapse and possibly even full scale war.

This is why smart people don't vote for populists. You have nothing to offer people except for poverty and war.

Is trump not a nationalist? He transcends party.

>this is why smart people don't vote populist
Maybe it's because it is the poor people who are directly affected by immigrants and bad economies?

> mass civil unrest, bloodshed
Good, purge Marxists.
> economic collapse
Why? It will only increase productivity per capita, and UN cannot sanction us as we have veto.
> full scale war
Never will happen to a country with nukes.

We offer you a safe country with a prosperous future, they offer you Brazil.

can one of you geniouses explain the difference between populism and nationalism. per favore?

Never been stabbed. Chances of being stabbed even here in London are extremely low.

ISIS are a joke. Only dumb populists seriously think that they are a threat to western civilization.

Plebs like you just watch the news and get blown away by sensationalism. ISIS has never been and never will be a serious threat. Even the IRA killed more people than ISIS.

It's not about "virtue signalling" or lobbying. It's about voting for policies that are going to lead to economic growth and have a measurable impact on people's lives.

And rich people are often those who benefit from immigration, of completed disconnected from reality academics and media stars who live in their own safe communities.

> I was never attacked by non-whites that's why they are all good, ignore crime stats

Populism is just a way to disparage plebs who don't have a defined ideology but instead like to pick and choose between socialist and conservative/nationalist policies. Populism tends to look a lot like Nazism, because that's what uneducated people like - governments which defend their borders and traditions whilst looking after people like themselves.

Compared to zero percent in the US. A country where people elected a gay nigger twice in a row for president.

Yeah that's probably part of the reason.

You're a child with no understanding of how the world or the global economy functions.
>productivity per capita
What the fuck are you talking about? What's your level of education?

Fortunately, people like you never amount to anything so I'm not too worried.

I don't care about crime stats. I care about GDP growth.

Based Sven

GDP is a meme. Even after calculating GDP per capita adjusted to inflation it is still a meme.

>Nationalists and populists are mostly poor uneducated retards
So low-energy. Sad!

>ISIS are a joke.

Nice dodge on the argument fag. Alright, substitute the 30000 islamists registered by mi5 in your country for "ISIS". Or the gangraping pakis in every town. Liberalism is what got you that. Don't forget you are just an individual and everyone has magic "individual rights". Dealing with that requires collective punishment, getting rid of muzzies altogether, basically ethnic cleansing. You as Brits are incapable of that precisely because of liberalism. They have no problem with it, that's why you are getting cleansed from your own cities together with Congo scale rape of your women.

What do you mean it's a meme? Money has a direct and measurable impact on people's lives.

You idiots don't care if the whole country is poor as long as you don't have to look at brown people in the street.

I can't wait for you poor Brexit voters to be made homeless.

>Even the IRA
>Even

>Boiling terrorism down to number of taxpayers iced

Oh Lord, have mercy on this poor pleb

>Compared to zero percent in the US
You do realize that Trump was the populist candidate, right?

Again, I don't care about sensationalist news stories like terrorist attacks and gang rapes. I care about facts and figures, not your feelings.

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Because their nationhood is not called into question

Populism and Nationalism are basically two sides of the same coin. Brexit is a perfect example of this, it was populist in the way it transcended class and shone a bright light on the increasing concerns of average citizens in regards to EU interference in British affairs (from economic meddling to judicial and questions of sovereignty) . But it was also fundamentally nationalistic as it capitalized on the peoples inherent pride and love for country.

So our rampant net immigration helps us how? We're economically stagnant, on a low wage economy with fucked healthcare and a dogshit education system. How the actual fuck are illiterate incestuous pedophilic Pakistanis helping this exactly?

I dont really care about brexit. I am for common market, I am against black and MENA immigration.

I have no problem looking at brown people as long as they are Chinese, for example. I am just tried of being afraid for my life and health every time I go outside. Money won't help when 5 nigs will surround you. And I really want to see some data you use to claim that black and men's immigrants are good for economy.

Keeping those wages low so that business can flourish.

Those brown people aren't going anywhere mate. You'd better get used to them

Hah you got me to respond twice, nice

in academic circles it is considered a "thin" ideology that argues its "the people" vs a corrupt elite.
thin means in this context, that populism can be attached to any "thick" ideology, and does not have meaning besides what is stated above.

ordinarily people use the term for politics that aims too much for high approval ratings.
basically putting their reelection above the countries wellbeing

>all i care about is money

Then we will leave to normal asian countries.

9/10 trolling

This is a correct approach, I am tired of muh rape muh terrorism as well. We need to focus on crime stats in general.

Only right wingers are on Sup Forums so what is the point of mocking them? It's not like they'll become more right wing by it...

>I am just tried of being afraid for my life and health every time I go outside. Money won't help when 5 nigs will surround you
Money will help you move to a less shitty area.

It's not all I care about it but it's definitely the number one concern for most people. Like I said, money has a measurable impact on people's lives. You want us to base out policies on vague platitudes about "culture" and such. You right-wingers are a sentimental bunch of rubes living in the past.

By all means. Leave. Go travel the world. I actually encourage it. Don't forget that it's thanks to globalism that you're afforded this luxury.

In Finland at times of struggle we just look things with this face until they get bad enough so we can stand behind one leader. Than we purge people and the job is done in a year.

You can dismiss it as trolling if you want but it's reality.

Don't think for a second that just because Brexit happened that we're going back to nationalism or isolationism. You poor, low skilled low wage earners are still going to be fucked.

How can I live in a less shitty area when you are actively turning all areas shitty?

> you poor, low skilled low wage earners are still going to be fucked.
I am not poor and low skilled, but don't be surprised when these poor white will come after you and people with this attitude.

>turning all areas shitty?
The opposite is happening. Ever heard of gentrification? The area that I currently live in in London used to be a shithole filled with working class scum like you.

Now it's one of the most expensive postcodes in the country.

Stop being poor.

Don't feed the troll, bruh.

based lithuania

Non-european immigration costs money.
Ex commie countries supply skilled labourers helping the economy. While third world muzzie countries only supply goat farmers and rapists.

Pic is welfare in the Netherlands.

I have no idea about welfare in the Netherlands but that graph proves nothing.

Just because they receive more welfare doesn't mean that they're not making a net contribution to the economy. As long as the majority are working and spending money. In fact, even the ones on welfare are injecting that money back into the local economy.

Every single leading economist agrees that immigration is beneficial overall. But I guess you know better than them?

It is only expensive as everyone want to live in a crime free area, but there are less and less areas like this thanks to you.
> stop being poor
Oh the libertarian mindset. People like you are the reasons why it is so expensive to live in a safe area.

And I would really like to see how to you connect muslim and black immigration to economics. I only agree that Indians. Slavs and Orientals help the economy.
He sounds legit desu.

They may be net plus but still decrease the average.

You need to work on your bait detection
>Don't think for a second that just because Brexit happened that we're going back to nationalism or isolationism.
This is literally the direction Brexit is a move towards.
>You poor, low skilled low wage earners are still going to be fucked.
He's calling you an uneducated poorfag and he's implying he's somehow different. Classic low-energy bait.

Have you ever posted on reddit? He is a generic redditor.

>but there are less and less areas like this thanks to you
You mean "fewer" and you're incorrect. London is actually safer today than it was a couple of decades ago despite the recent rise in crime do to cuts in the Met's budget. You're just full of shit.

Just admit that you don't like brown people and then maybe we can have an honest discussion about why that is. But don't lie to me and tell me that crime is increasing when the opposite is happening.

>And I would really like to see how to you connect muslim and black immigration to economics. I only agree that Indians. Slavs and Orientals help the economy.
I don't look at immigration on a race basis. I don't even think we have those stats. Obviously certain groups are going to be more productive than others.

One thing that I know for certain is that eastern Europeans are responsible for the vast majority of crime in the capital - not blacks or pakis.

I have not.

>He is a generic redditor
All them ore reason not to reply.

Disregard that image. It's from London, Canada. My fault for not verifying it during my Google Image search.

Here's one for England and Wales.

Here's also a link to the ONS website with the latest crime stats nationwide. You can see that every single type of crime has fallen since the 80s.

ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2017

Pic related

> You mean "fewer" and you're incorrect.
> London is actually safer today than it was a couple of decades ago despite the recent rise in crime
Source. Pic is about Canada whose immigrants are Asians and Indians and usually have lover than average crime rates, plus aging population.

> do to cuts in the Met's budget.
ie it becomes too expensive to fight crime thanks to more and more brown immigrants

> Just admit that you don't like brown people
Yes, cos they are stupid and violent.

> I don't look at immigration on a race basis.
Why don't you consider the race?

> eastern Europeans are responsible for the vast majority of crime in the capital - not blacks or pakis.
Anti slavic lie(yes, I am as slav immigrants, you may have noticed a couple of flaws in my English). More than half of crimes in London commuted by blacks, won't be surprised if another half is commuted by pakis but police put them as Asians thus pollute the statistics.

>Wealthier and more educated people tend to understand the benefits of immigration and globalism in economic terms

Nope. Nobody actually makes decisions on purely economic terms. We are not rational beings, we are emotional beings who rationalise.

People who enjoy a high level of material wealth become comfortable and apathetic, and will support whatever status quo led to their current situation. Imagine if you created a society where everybody was hooked up to a heroin drip at birth, how many would be rebel? These people don't understand - on an unconscious level, don't WANT to understand - the consequences of dismantling nationalism, opening borders, pursuing growth at all costs, et cetera. There's a reason why traditional spiritual systems from Christianity to Buddhism exalt a simple life free of material trappings.

I will look at it. I am aware of the nationwide crime decease, but it can be explained by aging population.

I know this is bait, but the Hungarian populist party has the most educated members. A good portion of them are historians, which is traditionally a literally Hitler degree in Hungary (kek).

>trying to troll Berlusconi with tits
>being this retarded

>Recucklican Party

I'd like to hear your definition of a populist, without looking it up on Google. It's one of the most misused terms nowadays.