Anybody who has been here for more than 2 years knows that this place is one huge divide and conquer/youth...

Anybody who has been here for more than 2 years knows that this place is one huge divide and conquer/youth radicalization agenda. Occupy Wallstreet was actually going to make some serious change, and (((they))) realized that and decided it was in their best interest to blanket the internet with divisive political garbage.

Why do you think this board consists of 95% threads that only serve to highlight our differences and make us hate each other, all posted by "1 post by this ID".

I gave up on trying to get people to see it. This board has made a serious QUICK downward spiral after Occupy protests. Occupy Wallstreet had grown to span across the entire country, every single major city, black people, white people, mexican people, asian people, and all other ethnicities.

The one thing (((they))) fear is a united population because that is when they are in danger of having their control ended.

tl;dr: we are all brainwashed to a gruesome extent, and most of us think we are "redpilled" when the truth is we're just another class of useful idiots on the opposite side of the left.

This is one of the most honest and real redpills you will ever be offered on this board. Swallow it or spit it out. I don't give a shit anymore.

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Get rid of the fucking muds

Don't tell me what to think!!!

Yeah, nah. I can hate rich people without liking niggers you cunt.

You dont have to like them. But you dont have to hate them either.

You are exactly who I was talking about when I mentioned the useful idiots who think theyre actually redpilled. I feel so sorry for you :( The programming is deep and I hate to see my fellow countrymen being used as fools :(

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They are literally a detriment to our nation in EVERY way, they have ZERO redeeming qualities.

You remind me quite a bit of those anti-establishment dipshits from yesteryear. “Dude the real problem is war and banks, we need to come together!!!”

Ignoring just how dated this cliched rhetoric is, it’s actually wrong. Look at how minorities voted in the 2016 primaries. Bernie, who was a threat to the rich, got stabbed in the back by the very minorities he was trying to pander to. Proper Leftism doesn’t exist anymore because of minorities. Unions now shill for immigrants, as do environmentalists. Hell just look at what a joke OWS turned into once women, nonwhites and fags started to project their bullshit onto the movement.

Have fun being “redpilled” and having these people ruin everything you try to do, I want no part of it.

Oh and Sup Forums hated nonwhites since /new/

>Bernie got screwed over hard so people who voted for him are bad

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Minorities DIDN’T vote for him, they overwhelmingly picked a neoliberal. This was in spite of Bernie’s repeated attempts to champion policies that would help minorities.

Either way, proper Leftism has been ruined by minorities. The more I see of the modern “left” the more I understand why Socialism won’t take off here. It’s not because people are self-imagined temporarily embarrassed millionaires. It’s because whites don’t want to, and shouldn’t, subsidize nonwhite laziness & nonwhites are used as shock troops to neutralize actual fiscal leftists

OP is right you are a useful idiot

since were postin george carlin this one seems relevant

Oh you mean the extreme left? I assure you, they see you the exact same way. So tell me, how does your way of doing things bring about any REAL positive change?

BiNGO!

In reality, there very few on both ends of the spectrum, who represent the people you are talking about. To label ALL of one group in a way that aligns with the action of the few nutcases on their side, is a huge logical fallacy.

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>Occupy Wallstreet was actually going to make some serious change

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha wtf
it was literally just some braindead hippies getting high all day in tents
nothing but a collective tantrum with no leaders, actual policies or even philosophy

L M A O

Holy shit I thought this board was completely devoid of people with common sense good on ya OP

first post bob post

Insults and hate only serve to keep us divided and you are completely oblivious to that fact. If you want to train a dog to bring you the paper, do you kick him in his face every time he brings you the paper?

No, what you're doing is playing a trick on yourself, stroking your ego. Fooling yourself into thinking "I sure told that idiot". Tricking yourself into feeling superior, and feeling as though "the opposition" is inferior.

Think about it without hate, and I hope you understand what I'm saying.

We've been over the waterfall since women could vote. There's no stopping what's to come. Just accelerate it.

>wanting what every other first world country has is the “extreme left.”

I’m an accelerationist at this point. The US as it stands is doomed, and it deserves everything it gets. We’ve allowed minorities to flood into our country, a tyrannical financial elite to install themselves on the backs of workers, we’ve allowed women to run about completely unchecked, etc. it’s unironically over and pretty much any book on civilizational arcs suggests this.

Have fun pursuing “REAL” change. I’m sure when your denouncing the banks and MIC you totally won’t get hijacked by a black, woman, gay, or some ambiguously brown “latinX” pushing whatever inane shot they’re on about at the moment. They’re really good allies!

Bob is a false prophet. Trust me, I'm the pope.

You are totally welcome to come visit me on my pleasure saucer after Xday.

>I’m an accelerationist at this point.

Good. Things are more fun when it's happening.

This post might actually be an extremely clever leftypol shill. If it is, bravo.

come back when you have plans for AFTER the revolution, kiddo

your pic doesn't even make sense

but this one does

I agree with everything you just said, but why attack the pawns with your queen? Shouldn't you be going for the King? Do we really have to hate the pawns of our opposition and treat them like trash? Will that ever help anybody?

These insane leftists we speak of are nothing more than victims of brainwashing. Do we not owe it to our fellow man to help them get out from under the rule of tyranny and oppression? Or is it more productive to wave our dicks around pretending we're superior while inadvertently serving (((their))) agenda as pawns of the right?

>Occupy Wallstreet was actually going to make some serious change

HAILD CHAOS! HAIL DESTRUCTION! LET IT ALL BURN!

occupy wall-street was a bunch of communists.

Nah. You push for every kind of degeneracy, poverty, misery, war and desteuction to make it all fall.

Funny thing is, Sup Forums was in majority support for Occupy until moot sold Sup Forums to hiro and he opened up the floodgates for the divide and conquer shills. Do you feel superior to half of your fellow man? Odds are you have enough of a brain to realize that you might actually be superior in reality, but is it strong or weak to tear down your fellow human beings? Should we not build each other up?

>Soros's spare change

>Sup Forums is one person

In a way OP has a point. There are plenty of idiots on our side that are completely intolerant of anybody outside their echo chamber. That being said, this place still has a strong community of rational, critical-thinking individuals who are discussing some very serious problems in the world, and we are an influence on the geo-political situation. OP, spit out that black pill, learn to ignore the stupidity like the rest of us have, re-ignite your hope for mankind and our future, and come back to trying to make the world a better place (in your own time, of course).

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I always said the same thing as far as “1 post by this ID” goes.

Did I say "one person"? I said "was in majority" keyword=MAJORITY. Why do you need to twist my words to support your stance? Is your stance not strong enough on it's own merit?

In my experience my "fellow human beings" take it way to easy on themselves. That's my problem with movements like the Occupy one, it's the same kind of people who steal half of your order at Mcdonalds but think they deserve $15 an hour. They want to change society from the top down when it needs to be changed from the bottom up.

Reality is a social construct so if I think I’m right then I am right.

When I saw the blue eye and brown eye superiority larps.

All I ever thought was that having lots of pretty colors on women was a good thing because women are meant to be pretty, and it doesn't matter if a white guy has brown hair or eyes because the recessive genes for light hair and eyes can be carried as long as his wife is fair, and if they aren't, fuck it, europeans are sexy anyways, but some people here take eye and hair color into master race territory that not even the fucking nazis tread on that often.

You know, even before mass immigrations, white countries never exceeded 50% blue eyes, right? Even the nordic ones? Or that according to basic genetics, brown eyes don't get bred out unless they're being actively selected against, which they're not, no matter how pure a race is? Nah, I guess sweden was only 50% white even before they imported the whole of somalia.

You just explained exactly why I continue frequenting this board. About 5% of posts are actually constructive and productive. I still come here to stay up on all the latest corruption and leaks and whatnot.

It's very difficult to ignore it when it's so blatantly in your face and eating up the entire board. And seeing so many people fall for it makes it hard for me to shut up and ignore it. I hate seeing oblivious people being used as fools :(

Touche friend. Although I think "personal construct" would be a better fit for words.

>took a Sup Forums poll to figure out what the majority was thinking.

It doesn't take a poll to see reality. Just critical thinking and watching which opinions are expressed most across the board as a whole. Were you here back then?

>let's all just get along and be happy

Shills will be shills. Sheep will be sheep. (((They're))) fighting us so hard because at our core we've recognized this. Keep your head up, friend.

>Sup Forums was in majority support for Occupy

LOL bull fucking shit you communist cunt.

All fields for insertion

Jesus motherfucking christ on a pogo stick. There's a fucking pink here waving Bob around.

It seems foolish to me to sum up everything I have said here into one single generic bland post like that. It's WAAAAY more complicated than that.

Unfortunately I don't see it man :( To me it seems there are a very small handful of folks that match what you consider "core". Think of how many young people come here and have a blackpill shoved down their throats. I feel compelled to prevent that if possible but I don't know wtf I'm doing and I've never organized anything close to resembling a "movement" in my entire life. Occupy seemed to be the massive redpill society desparately needed and it was infiltrated subverted by (((them))). I remember the threads here exposing the Occupy infiltrators/subversionists. I feel like those were the golden days of Sup Forums.

>not an argument

I bet you feel much better now that you put me in my place though.

Funny, Stang told me that he never sees actual SubG's calling others pinks, but he constantly sees pinks screaming "PINKBOY!"

i remember those threads. the death of Occupy is what made me give up. youre doing gods work OP keep it up

all fields

oh my, we have to drop a name. Funny, last time I talked to Al Crowley he said you were full of shit.

>subgenius
It's 2018 bucko

Oh you guys are so witty. You totally got me and now I give up. How will I ever recover? SBHGGA8r BTFO ETERNALLY

>I don't know wtf I'm doing and I've never organized anything close to resembling a "movement" in my entire life
Read pic related if you want to learn more on the subject.

Truth will prevail, and the people fighting for it will never die out - it is a deep spiritual flame inside of us. I get that you're down that things didn't turn out the way they could've (and should've), but every single time (((they))) have subverted our cause and corrupted our message to keep control over the normies we've morphed ourselves to survive and regain traction. If you're a student of history you'll know that this has happened over and over for centuries, and (((they))) have been defeated in the past. Our time will come. While we're in (((theirs))), just enjoy the thrill of the fight, remember what we're fighting for, and smell the roses along the way. Finally, never forget that you're not alone. Blessings upon you.

There is no need to argue something so outlandishly false.

>unable to rebut op so instead resorts to the exact behavior op has been talkin about all through this entire thread

Maybe you guys are okay with giving up your board to the subversive jew but IM NOT

Wish i had your patience and kindness op. Im just a bitter asshole and youre making me take an honest look at myself right now. Thanks for the reality check

>still not an argument

We were so brave and idealistic.

The boomers always knew we would collapse unto the republican party.

solve all problems right now by defining who "we" is. Otherwise you are a shill promoting counter productivity. The "we" question is a central axiom to any actionable solution. "All" is not an answer for obvious reasons

It's okay. You naysayers will go away from this thread thinking you're better than me, and thats fine. But over time you will browse this board and see constant reminders that I'm right. You will be browsing late one night looking for something interesting and scroll past 5 nigger hate threads, a couple Euro hate threads, 3 56% threads, 1 or 2 Jordan Peterson hate threads, 2 streetpoo threads, a few "what do we do about the X problem" threads, and you will think to yourself "holy shit, he was right. How could I have been so foolish".

When that happens, just do your best to remember not to allow yourself to be a pawn on the divide and conquer chess board.

we = the common man who is not on tv shilling for a globalist agenda or in a fancy government/corporate office exercising control and force over "anons", Joes, and Janes.

A better definition would be "the masses who have authority forcing them to live a certain way or having our rights taken away. The folks who have hands coming from every direction reaching for our guns. Those of us who have to pay ridiculous amounts of capital to fund slaughtering of innocent brown/yellow/tan civilians. Those of us who know the feeling of having our freedoms slowly and gradually taken away. Those of us who intimately understand what it's like being on the losing end of injustice.

Much love and godspeed to you. People like you are the only thing keeping my hope and faith alive friend. Blessings back at ya.

>Those of us who have to pay ridiculous amounts of capital to fund slaughtering of innocent brown/yellow/tan civilians

You lost me there. WTF are you talking about?

The only two certain things in life friend. Death and taxes.

And before any treadmill headed tools twist my words to warp perspective of my intentions: I'm not saying taxes should not be paid. I'm saying they should be used for more important things than killing civilians in unjust wars, and they should have MUCH more oversight into how they're spent. I don't have all the answers but I certainly am interested in the discussion, offering ideas along the way as my intellectual understanding permits.

This defines nothing that can be acted upon. A persons thoughts, feeling, or current occupation says very little about who we are anthropologicaly. You leave me with only the most nhilistic persuit of a materialistic world devoid of human life cycle, basic social order, and cohesion. Try again with a real way to perceive the world that doesn't rely upon dialectical circumstance. who is "we"?

Bump for actual justice

>. Occupy Wallstreet was actually going to make some serious change, and (((they))) realized that and decided it was in their best interest to blanket the internet with divisive political garbage.

No occupy wall street was a retarded leaderless political movement with no clear idea of what it was they wanted and just vaguely hated the 1%. Everybody who spoke against them had retards screaming shill. I was accused of being an NYPD shill. The government tried to take down the movement from within with agent provocateurs but fortunately for them this was the beginning of the social justice movement really exploding into the mainstream.

There was no conspiracy that undermined OWS, OWS protesters were just fucking retarded especially the ones who were still there after the first few days. My local OWS offshoot lost political support abruptly because it turned into a homeless camp and two people overdosed in the same day and people quickly realized these were not people with big ideas about how to change things.

I mean shit OP, for all this big talk about how people have been memed by da joos into believing in divide and conquer politics, you believe in the meme that nonviolent political protesting works and is how real change happens. Which is heavily promoted by the government in schools because of how ineffective it is at making change happen. People screaming "WE ARE THE 99%" on a street corner does not actually cause social change.

I think you know exactly what I mean by "we". Does "we" really need to be defined to understand the entirety of what I've laid out ITT? Does the lack of definition void everything I have laid out ITT?

I also read the "how to destroy a liberal argument" article from the halfiechan link and I've seen the video explaining "how to destroy a leftist argument" by asking them to define X.

The problem with your strategy is that I'm no leftist or liberal. I'm not aligned with the right either. I'm aligned with humanity as a whole.

In fact, lets use that definition. "Humanity as a whole" = we

Oh you mean no leaders and no clear idea, like an ACTUAL grassroots movement? Sure, I admit you're right, they were doomed to fail. But did they not have the right idea? IMO, they were having the right discussions and noble intentions (mostly) but didn't have a clear plan, leading to their downfall. But do you expect any movement to have all the answers laid out? People are used to having a government and other structures to lead them and tell them how to do things. What do you expect for an actual grassroots movement? Did you expect them to obliterate the opposition swiftly and efficiently? IMO, thats exactly what a grassroots movement should start out looking like. Their lack of organization and lack of a clear laid out plan is exactly what tells me they weren't subverted by shills yet.

>I'm aligned with humanity as a whole.
There is the basic flaw in your entire view. Humanity is not a "whole." Humanity is an ascriptive term that we as a species use that does not take into consideration the cultural, historical, linguistic, and philosophical ideals of different groups of people. To say that "we" is as broad of a statement as "humanity" to convert some pan-global unity is dishonest at best. I have about as much in common as a man from China as a tangerine has in common with a grapefruit.

Where did I say violence can't be a solution? I don't know what the solution is. I only know that the world we live in is largely unjust and gruesomely oppressive, and I know that I would like that to change.

Anyway, thats not the main point of this thread. The point of the thread is that we are being divided at every turn here. If you can't admit that, I don't think placing value in your opinion would be in my or the boards best interests. Can you admit that? Are we being completely demolished with shills? Is the state of this board really as bad as I claim?

>Occupy Wallstreet was actually going to make some serious change
Lol

You're a smart fella, but you are here for the sole purpose of arguing. You don't seem to be interested in helping this board thrive. You poke holes in my words, yet you complete fail to address or acknowledge any of my comments. You're hung up on this definition you need, and it seems because of that, you have no interest in discussing the division going on here.

>But you dont have to hate them either.
Yes we do

>circular post
>all edge and no point

I get what your sayin op. Know there are lots and lots of us lurming who get it. Keep up the good fight.

Is it actually bad that we’re being divided? It seems like pol is one of the greatest things to happen in recent years of political history.

Does this thread threaten your world view? Do you have anything that is actually constructive to contribute? Or did you just come in here to stroke your ego into feeling superior?

this isn't a gotcha question. It is an ideological one. I'm deconstructing the "occupy" narrative in a way that demonstrates why it was going nowhere despite being a product of something real. Anything more than state of mind would be better than what you have now? Is a nation not a real thing?

Fucking Mutt. Go shit yourself at McDonalds you lard-drenched swine

You may have some kind of point. I definitely agree with your second sentence. That is why I have interest in fighting against the shilling.

Please expand on
>Is it actually bad that we’re being divided?

I can't think of any logical reason that convinces me that the cost of division is worth ???? I could be wrong though. Please elaborate?

If you were the highest leader in the occupy movement, and everyone respected you enough to carry out your wishes and follow you, what would you have seen done to ensure it's success?

Do you have any solutions, or just negatives to solutions? It's okay if the latter. We need those negatives to point out the error of our ideas.

Well assume for a second that pol became a centralised movement. A centralised movement has structure, goals, and wekanesses, meaning that it can be broken. On the other hand a bunch of screaming neckbeards who hate everything cannot be controlled or appeased. Just look at trump, a 1.5 years ago we loved him, now we hate him because nothing’s ever enough.

You really activated my almonds. Gives me something interesting to think about :)

Please elaborate I am curious

Occupy Wall Street was total bullshit.

You have a great point. Perhaps if we didn't have the shills filling the board with their garbage, we could be the great internet hate machine we once were. But the constant barrage of shill threads leave little room for us to congregate.

Remember pre-Trump libertarian pol?

Pepperidge farm remembers

>"lol guys there is no objective fact the truth is always in the middle"
Go halfway jump off a bridge then if the truth is always in the middle

Although this is a shitty commie thread it does surprise me how faggot actor kikes like molymeme have convinced so many kids that ancap is a thing thats ideal.
National socialism is literally the best system.