This is a very good recap about what is going to happen in the next week on gun control. I understand the rules against politics, but this is unambiguously and directly related to weapon ownership in America, it is not a normative political debate, it is factual information about what momentum is building within the senate.
Thanks for the heads up, I know alot of pro 2a veterans, very close friends and family, and they should know about this shit.
Samuel Kelly
But but the Preacher Man says the Jews are angels and muh friends...
Jack Barnes
What Fix NICS does is that it expands this from just the SSA and VA to many other organizations. Anyone with a prior or current medical MMJ card will be prevented from buying a gun, regardless of whether they actually used the card, regardless of whether they actually are currently "addicted" to a narcotic.
That's the danger in letting the FBI be the sole arbiter of the law. No due process, no standard of guilt, it's a complete kangaroo court, and they're deciding gun rights within it.
Isaac Scott
Probably even to a bank account over draft eventually.
Jack Ramirez
Who cares, we've lost this fight already. The country's 50% white and falling and darkies don't care about gun rights.
Jeremiah Jenkins
Where does it say this anywhere?
This seems like the fastest way to get MJ descheduled possible.
Jaxon Gomez
Can I get a quick rundown?
Owen Perez
A bill bring brought up next week that is going to bar veterans from owning firearms if they are deemed to be unfit by the VA or any doctor visit. The bill is sugar coated and is called "stop school shooting act", it's all Democrat sponsored.
Evan Cook
The majority of Jews will always be for gun control, patriotism and gun rights makes them nervous. They just don't trust the goyim with guns. Even the flag makes them uncomfortable, they have never and will never assimilate.
>b-b-b-BUT MUH GEOTUS TRUMP IS PRO GUN! If he were to sign such a totally fucked bill, I will never vote again. This a direct attack from (((them))) on gun ownership.
Adrian Williams
No, no no no. You misunderstand. That is happening, today, right now. This is a function of the Brady background check program. For the program to be constitutional, the FBI ought to only be forwarding on existing adjudications of someone qualifying for prohibited persons as per 922g. That means that the states ought to turn over records about domestic abuse, drug misdemeanors, involuntary mental institution commitment, etc. to the FBI, where the FBI can quickly search through it and then make a judgement. But that's the *only* way the program can be constitutional. The government can take away your second amendment right if you're a prohibited person, but the government isn't allowed to call you a prohibited person all nilly willy. You're not a prohibited person in unless a judge says so, that's the basis of how our justice system works.
In reality, there's nothing in the law itself that actually holds the FBI to keep the program within these bounds. So as Obama left office, he pushed through something that incentived the social security administration and department of veterans affairs (by giving them money) to turn over all their records to the FBI for the purpose of the NICS program, and he instructed the FBI to start making EXTRAJUDICIAL judgements on whether people are prohibited. So today, right now, at this moment, if you have someone else manage power of attorney for sake of financial matters, and/or the VA or SSA has paperwork (erroneous or not) that claims that someone has power of attourney, the FBI takes a leap of faith and interprets this to mean that you have been adjudicated as mentally defective and denies you the right to own a firearm due to their assertion that you are a prohibited person.
They are the sole arbiter of the law! They collect the evidence, they decide if it's right, and they deny your second amendment right. In spite of the fact that they have no authority to do so.
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Cameron Howard
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So what "Fix NICS" will do, soon to be pushed with bipartisan support, is expands this Obama executive action. Not only are the SSA and VA encouraged to submit extrajudicial records of this sort with federal $$$ grants, but hundreds of millions of dollars are made available for any federal or state government agency. This means California MMJ cardholders are going into the system, because California will get millions of dollars to do so, as well as possibly those with unpaid traffic tickets! Anything that possibly can prevent someone from being given a gun will be submitted to the FBI, they're going to get a TON of information, and just as they're making extrajudicial judgements based on SSA and VA data, they'll go further and do it with even more data, aggressively.
It's a violation of your 5th amendment right to due process. It's a kangaroo court. It's erosion. It's not hypothetical, it is already happening and it's going to be passed in the next week if people don't wake up.
Me no like long nose tribe. Me tired of them whine about holobunga.
Nathan Robinson
inb4 that faggot avatarposter sharknigger comes along screeching about evil Sup Forums
Brody Lopez
Fuck the sticky. This belongs here. Keep in on
Adam Collins
I find it highly unlikely that this will go anywhere but I’ll call my reps anyways.
Jack Torres
Fuck yo- Oh. Carry on.
Aaron Campbell
Pretty shitty considering how Trump was always saying how he "loves veterans" and pledged to respect them and take care of them
Connor Morris
The president can still veto it. I'll see what happens. It's either Sup Forums's mythical 5d chess or I made a poor decision. We'll see which it is, since I can't do shit else since Murray and Cantwell don't listen to any of their constituency beyond the mountains.
John Mitchell
That is exactly why you should care.
Jonathan King
He backed off, but he probably won't veto it. Too much face to lose.
Trump does play 88D chess, but sometimes he just impulsively fucks up. This was an unforgivable fuckup.
Noah Martin
He's been playing 1D tic-tac-toe since he announced he was running.
Carson Brown
You'd be silly to think that, he's sleazy but he knows how to play a crowd, it's all political bukkake theater. Pay attention to what he does, not what he says.
Colton Gomez
I think you mean kabuki theater, but yeah, you're not wrong.
Elijah Martin
56%*
Luke Jones
they ban bronze tip spear. Say 'think of nursery cave, many many cavechild kill' they forget what fathers and fathers pass down. They live cave high up. Many strong warrior protect. We are kill when dark skin tribe come to cave at night, steal women and fire. Need bronze tip spear to protect cave and family. No warrior to protect us.
Aiden Diaz
If (((they))) ban "assault rifles" imma fuck some shit up with my bolt action the next day ask me if I care about anything but leaving this fucked world
Camden Ross
Mods are long nose tribe. They come for Grog bronze spears, many cave woman wailing that night. They not know obsidian spears though, they think flint but kill better than bronze! because no have father, not know to dress mammoth, lay with other cave man
Jack Cruz
They probably moved it just because of him.
Jose Green
Why the FUCK would congress take guns away from veterans who served in the military?
Have they no soul?
This is clearly just another ploy to disarm Americans as a preface to invasion.
These assholes are never going to stop trying to disarm us until we stop them, they don't want to protect children at all, they don't want US to protect our children, they don't want TEACHERS to protect children, they don't want COPS to protect children....
Feinstein is a fucking harpy cunt who wants nothing more than to kill all American children, and to keep us disarmed so we can't stop her minions from kidnapping them.
Send these "Israel Firsters" back to fucking Israel.
Joshua Smith
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Josiah Sanchez
Muh children
Hudson Butler
Feinstein is a fucking demon.
She's probably thinking about what she will do with all of the money from selling confiscated guns to ISIS.
Juan Campbell
Actually, if you take a closer look at fast and furious, this is what happened with the last batch of confiscated guns, they straight up sell them to criminal gangs and terrorists.
and I'm pretty sure thats either a federal crime, or treason.
Tyler Wood
bump
Evan Ross
Oh nice another infringement on the 2nd that everyone will ignore. Sweet i love these
Bentley Cox
Reply to this thread too, since nobody seems to be seeing it.
Easton Hughes
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Jaxson Morales
bump
Luis Richardson
Come on you fuckers call your reps and congressmen write letters mobilize we need to stop this shit
Brandon Reed
You know what to do faggots. Make sure EVERY FUCKING BODY knows about this (spread the video) and call your fucking reps. govtrack.us/congress/members
Carter Diaz
> I understand the rules against politics Sad and true.
Ian Powell
>call your reps
They need to be shot
Joshua Cooper
Right now, let's just call our reps and spread the word.
Gavin Johnson
Turn down your glow a bit.
To all the non-feds in the thread: >Soap Box >Ballot Box [we are here] >Jury Box >Ammo Box
Jayden Powell
funny they just reported a school shooting this morning too. i'm really starting to think twice about this country
Liam Hill
The one in Alabama? That happened yesterday.
Ethan Rodriguez
Don’t just call your representatives, contact any veterans you know and any veterans associations you know.
Most importantly CONTACT THE NRA. We didn’t just throw dozens of millions of dollars at them in the last month for nothing, they need to get the fuck on the bullhorn and get this known far and wide.
Disarming veterans takes out a huge chunk of gun owners who not only are better trained and equipped, but most likely to stand against tyranny.
Elijah Collins
>jury box sweet summer child...
Bentley Hill
I know, user. Courts have not been on our side for a long time - however Trump is making progress with judicial appointments and the SCOTUS has been surprisingly supportive of the Constitution. All I'm saying is temper your anger and hold out faith.
Joseph Rodriguez
You mean Donald “due process second” Trump is our last hope?
Jack Myers
You know very well he was referring to the Baker Act, which Cruz should have been held under.
Ian Gonzalez
>This seems like the fastest way to get MJ descheduled possible. why not demand both rights, it's your body, protect it and harm it how you see fit
Ian Anderson
>The government can take away your second amendment right if you're a prohibited person, how is that legal? nowhere in the 2nd does it say that felons or criminals are barred from access to the 2nd
Robert Harris
If the satanic freaks and their feds want total war they can gun grab.
Carter Johnson
>Pretty shitty considering how Trump was always saying how he "loves veterans" and pledged to respect them and take care of them
Trump was always a lying cocksucker, his father was one of the key guys destroying white neighborhoods in NYC in the 50s
John Sullivan
>Trump does play 88D chess, we all know what checkers looks like
Cooper Ortiz
The satanic freaks are afraid people are going to start whacking them and their feds for kidnapping children for torture and rape.
Nathaniel Roberts
That one isn't on Trump though
Austin Cox
when is KEK going to take out Pelosi and Schumer?
sick of those scumbags being alive
Charles Rogers
Trump feels guilty for what his dad did probably and sure without Fred those neighborhoods would have been destroyed anyway but still
Trump's family fortune came out of blockbusting white neighborhoods, moving a black family into a white neighborhood and then buying up all the property when the values drop and then move the black family out once you bought the whole block and make huge profits
Andrew Jenkins
BUMP
John Gonzalez
>All I'm saying is temper your anger and hold out faith Technically they held the brother under it... how much have they expanded the Baker act? When I was a jit, it was used to help addicts "get help". Now it seems like a "fuck your rights" tool.
Jayden Mitchell
quoted wrong line
Nolan Allen
I meant the Florida bill, not whatever his father did or didn't do. I unironically think it's 4d chess on his part.
Alexander Wilson
This is going NOWHERE guys. There are more guns than people in America - over 600 million. Atleast 80% of the military is pro-gun. Nothing's going to happen. If it does then we have Civil War. It's that simple.
Christopher Butler
They'll never take the guns away, they couldn't do that even if they wanted to, but they'll impose more and more locals restrictions in blue states until most people give up. They didn't ban guns in Europe, they just made owning one such a pain that almost nobody bothers.
Only white people care about constitutional rights like the first and especially the second amendments. The browner it gets, the more likely gun grabbers are going to get their way.
Jose Bell
True. They have a policy of incrementalism but we still have over 150 million white folk in this country. Atleast have of them are fanatically pro-gun. So that shit wont fly for a long time.
Austin Turner
bump for interest
Aiden Nguyen
We need to start talking about expelling (((them.))) At the point of a gun.
Carter Perry
>have dozens of assault rifles and thousands of ammo >only use them to shoot paper and steel
You deserve this, mutts. You have ZERO testosterone because you are balls-less.
Brody Clark
bump
Austin Walker
I'm ready for war so if these faggots want to kick it off be my guest.
John Baker
bump
Elijah Parker
>yeah fuck da gobermint dey can't do anything against sovereign citize-
Xavier Torres
OP from /k/ here fuck the mods for moving it to this shithole and fuck Sup Forums for not caring more about the right things bump
Jace Hall
this board is being flooded with gungrabbing nigger jew shills that most have filtered the word "gun" from the catalog
Andrew Torres
They can't do shit against insurgents, that's a proven fact.
Juan Reed
What the other guy who replied to you said. Don't worry brother-in-arms, I'm poorfag with nothing to lose and those sweet spoils of war are calling my name.
Ryder Nguyen
>take guns away from people who own them legally >criminals still have their guns >government still has their guns
Aiden Jackson
kek
Adrian Bennett
We'd need a first Holocaust before we can have another, but we won't need another if we do it right ;)
Gabriel Johnson
>threads about gun legislation don't belong in the gun board OI VEY!
Lincoln Mitchell
Do you think maybe these sick fucks have been making more sacrifices to Moloch to beg for protection from Kek? Our god is fueled by memes; their god by the blood of children. The kikes just had an abortathon. They are desperate for that blood.