Nothing happens to Sibyl at the end of Psycho-Pass because the female MC is a naive wuss

>nothing happens to Sibyl at the end of Psycho-Pass because the female MC is a naive wuss
>Sibyl only gets a slight reform that solves a few problems but ultimately brings other problems at the end of Psycho-Pass 2
Why do japs love the status quo so fucking much?
They even referenced some anarchist/socialist literature and still went there.

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Butcher is a hack.

Having some semblance of order is better than having no government at all. One more month of riots and the city would have turned into Mad Max.
At the end of the day anarchism is just chuunibyou for the politically aware.

I'm not even gonna try to turn this thread into a political debate. Anyway, it just doesn't feel right to reference stuff like 1984, paint anarchism in a good light instead of resorting to definitions a conservative mom would give, and even showing all the faults with the system only to keep everything the way it is.

You'll be overjoyed to know nothing happens in the movie either.

>One more month of riots and the city would have turned into Mad Max.
An alternative would eventually have showed up. This is how it's always worked if you'd looked at a history book.

>inb4 the cost of doing this
I don't know, ask the endless generations that could be living under a better system.

Think they just wanted to leave some doors open for season two. We all know how that happened.
From the thing they have at the end of PP, they can evolve the system into a meritocracy, like they have at nerv but without the corruption. Just make a bureocracy that's useful and convenient, something no one needs to rebel against.

>Think they just wanted to leave some doors open for season two.
It's most probably this. Also at least it's realistic in the sense that revolutions don't happen overnight, and you get to see Kougami at the end of the movie training people to confront this wicked system.

Yes, someone would show up in a red naval uniform and a mask and get rid of everything that was wrong with the old system. That's the entire problem.

>An alternative would eventually have showed up. This is how it's always worked if you'd looked at a history book.
at what cost? the dilemma is that is a radical unknown better than a generally functional society run by a committee of crazies. the goal was to work within the system to find a way between.

>at what cost?
Read the rest of my post.

>the goal was to work within the system to find a way between.
When has this ever worked? The French revolution was fucking great. Bureaucracy on the other hand...

Because despite its minor flaws, it’s a pretty good system.

>minor flaws
Did you even pay attention to PP1 and the movie?

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People want to serve. Freedom means you're personally responsible for your actions.

>Freedom means you're personally responsible for your actions
Feels good to not pretend I don't have moral autonomy. Fuck collectivist Borg shitheads - literally subhuman.

You completely missed the entire point of the show.
Chuuni revolutionaries are only ever good at causing mayhem and loss of lives.

Sociopathic control freaks are only ever good at indoctrinating weak-willed sheeple and using violence against anyone who wants nothing to do with what they're doing.

Cyberpunk media usually ends in maintaining the status quo, though

A totalitarian society that can provide security for its citizens is a 100% more better than a society solely driven by ideals even if the former was more corrupt.
I think P-P was making the same point Hobbes made with Leviathan.

There are only people. People do things. "Society" is just multiple people doing things in arbitrary proximity to one another. Violence immoral sociopaths are subhuman and should all off themselves so people can live without the dystopian facade of "these people are better than you so you must follow their arbitrary whims for your own good".

Hobbes philosophy is garbage - SCT is easily demonstrable nonsense.

Makishima was right.

And the entire western world that is currently shitting on authoritarian states.

>One more month of riots and the city would have turned into Mad Max
This was stupid in my opinion. I thought the whole setting wasn't believable at all.

Then why are you here? Wasn't there a war that was just about to start in 15 minutes?

Huh?

Barcelona is going to secede in like an hour. Anyone who has any ideas about revolutions should probably take them there.

I support any and all secession movements.
I also condemn any and all violence - which is why I condemn any and all political goons who necessarily use violence to force their arbitrary whims on everyone else.

It would be immoral for me to walk into your yard and demand you cut your grass on your property or else I'll use violence against you. But - magically - you think it's okay when some political government flunky does the same to you. It's moral nonsense.

So you expect someone else to give up an arm or kidney to create the kind of society you want to live in?

No, I don't expect people to be moral. I can't make people be different. I'm sure as hell gonna live my life righteously though, which entails censuring atrocities.

Sybil brings happiness to the majority. It's objectively the better society because it has the numbers on its side.
Saying that it's better to destroy something that works and take a gamble on ideals and revolutionary values is just destructive.

Akane is by far the wisest character on the show.

Happiness isn't what's important in life.
It's why there's something noble about people who would forsake happiness for truth.

Yes. It brought law and order to an otherwise chaotic and disorderly world. For instance, SEA-UN was plagued by civil war constantly until Sibyl came into the picture. Yes, it's not a utopia by any means, but at the very least 'peace' was restored. Same thing with Japan. The other countries were all engulfed in wars and famine and Japan is doing relatively fine thanks to Sibyl. Peace and order is better than scavenging for food amongst a battlefield.

People are are shitheads. There is a linear correlation between the more advanced a state is, and the less violence there is.

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The modern state with a monopoly on violence (law enforcement) is the highest achievement of the Human race because it has successfully put a lid on the assholery that is the natural Human state, in particular in countries like Japan which also has the additional collectivist obligation to behave.

1984, Brave New World and We all ended with the system winning, so not really a jap thing