Do Muslims have high birth rates because of Islam or because they're mostly non-white?
Do Muslims have high birth rates because of Islam or because they're mostly non-white?
Gabriel Edwards
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Cooper Watson
Both but it's mostly cultures since whites had a lot of children before.
Henry Peterson
>whites had a lot of children before
>before
:(
Andrew Brown
Low education and bad quality of living.
Nathaniel Taylor
>Do Muslims have high birth rates because of Islam or because they're mostly non-white?
islam is not connected with population growth
turkeys fertility rate in 1960 was 6.4 on averige.
the most recent info on the fertility rate from 2015 on turkey puts it at 2.1 on averige.
or look at the fertility rate in Iran where the average family had around 6.9 children in the 1970s and has 1.7 today.
or the United Arab Emirates, which had about 6.9 children on the averige family in the 1960's and now as of date has 1.8 children on averige.
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most of the birth rates in muslem countries are dropping perhaps because of the rising living standards.
Carson Walker
Conquest by breeding. Their doctrine views harems of women as property for breeding centers to the point where they mutilate the women to make sex painful and forbid them to be shown in public or interact with other men unsupervised etc.
Elijah Hernandez
Whites had a lot of children before to be able to have successors and defenders of their people, but also to be able to work an agrarian pre-industry lifestyle. MOST human beings understood the advances in technology no longer necessitated large families. Whites understood the value of quality over quantity, but many other groups of people kept spitting out their spawn, causing food shortages, disease, warfare and watering down the populous of intelligent humans with their half baked retards.
Jace Wright
>Conquest by breeding.
stupid narrative.
it has been debunked here in my post.
>Their doctrine views harems of women as property for breeding centers
quran 4:128
And if a woman fears from her husband contempt or evasion, there is no sin upon them if they make terms of settlement between them - and settlement is best. And present in [human] souls is stinginess. But if you do good and fear Allah - then indeed Allah is ever, with what you do, Acquainted.
quran 4:34
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
letting women too free causes ((((feminism)))
>mutilate the women to make sex painful
bullshit FMG is only practiced in rural villages and towns there are massive campings agianst it now.
>to be shown in public or interact with other men unsupervised etc.
promiscuity is a societal cancer.
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promiscuity=divorce.
Daniel Long
Well, Persia had a baby boom in 1980 right after the Islamic revolution.
Women had around 7 babies on the average.
Hunter Nguyen
>Well, Persia had a baby boom in 1980 right after the Islamic revolution.
america also had a massive baby boom (boomers) after WW2 if you studied this patter you will see that europe africa the middle east all go trough baby booms and demographic winters.
Charles Ramirez
Yeah but wasn't the Islamic revolution the reason for this Persian baby boom?
Caleb Reed
>taqiyya
No thanks.
Ian Flores
Because the most common form of marriage in Islam is between first cousins.
They are obeying their master and breeding themselves an army of freaks that are too spasticated to resist blowing themselves up.
Eli Morgan
yep baby booms usual happen after such events but agian the birth rate is shrinking pretty badly now.
>litraly show qoutes from the quran
>give studies
>give the fucking fertility rates stats on a silver platter
>idb4 muh taqqiya
“And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Qur’an, 2:42)”
“If ye are on a journey, and cannot find a scribe, a pledge with possession (may serve the purpose). And if one of you deposits a thing on trust with another, Let the trustee (Faithfully) discharge His trust, and let him fear his Lord. Conceal not evidence; for whoever conceals it,- His heart is tainted with sin. And God Knoweth all that ye do. (Qur’an, 2:283)”
bong off all people talking about incest.
Brayden Lewis
Islam specifies that it's OK to lie and break all the rules as long as it's in the service of spreading Islam beyond the existing tribe. It is therefore impossible to engage in any sort of truthful discussion with a Muslim unless you already are one.
James Lee
>first cousins
first cousin marriage is a problem that is being solved right now with proper education programs.
if only you could stop funding wahhabi cronies to further you fucking goals we could do it quicker.
>Islam specifies that it's OK to lie and break all the rules as long as it's in the service of spreading Islam beyond the existing tribe.
>let me tell you how your own religeon works
neck thyself.
Nathan Gomez
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>A Danish news outlet titled Jyllands-Posten released information in 2009 concerning the astonishing rate of stillbirths, physical deformities, and various mental diseases caused by the ever-imminent incest-filled landscape in the Muslim world, concluding that Pakistani, Turkish and Somali women are twice as likely to experience complications during childbirth. Nearly 70% of Pakistanis are the product of inbreeding in Islam, mostly due to the Muslim tradition of marrying cousins via choice or arrangement. BBC also released a study, revealing that approximately 55% of Pakistani immigrants in Britain were married to a first cousin and that Pakistani-British were “at least 13 times likely to than the general population to have children with recessive genetic disorders.”
>A study was conducted in the 1960s that concluded that only 0.2% of all Roman Catholics in the United States were married to first cousins, which is an astronomically small statistics compared to Pakistan’s 70% and Turkey’s 25%-30%. Does inbreeding in Islam mean that Islam morally reprehensible? If one considers incest to be a moral evil, specifically due to the 100% increase in the risk of stillbirths, then this particular Muslim tradition needs to be assimilated to Western values in this ethical area.
tl;dr: smelly ugly manlets force themselves upon their sisters and daughters because they're physically repulsive and mentally retarded in comparison to humans
Blake Barnes
>bong off talking about incest
Jeremy Kyle couldn't interview your freaks, they don't have mouths, I've got a pic of one here with six legs though (for real).
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Connor White
>Does inbreeding in Islam mean that Islam morally reprehensible? If one considers incest to be a moral evil, specifically due to the 100% increase in the risk of stillbirths, then this particular Muslim tradition needs to be assimilated to Western values in this ethical area.
>tl;dr: smelly ugly manlets force themselves upon their sisters and daughters because they're physically repulsive and mentally retarded in comparison to humans
quran 4:23
Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship
William Flores
Judaism is similar in this regard. The rules don't apply to those outside of the tribe. Islam and Judaism are backward doctrines that must be eradicated.
Juan Powell
Somehow Christianity is all so different than Islam and Judaism lol
Elijah Walker
>Judaism
the tribe of israel have broken there covenant with god countless times before that's why the are cursed to fore ever be discriminated against.
>Islam and Judaism are backward doctrines that must be eradicated.
perhaps your entire country should also be eradicated cletus?
We have to live with the consequenses of your stupid fuck ups cletus.
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not to mention your wahhabi puppets and the petrodollar.
Christopher Gomez
>Somehow Christianity is all so different than Islam and Judaism lol
we worship the same god dum dum.
quran 5:116
>And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
quran 5:112
>[And remember] when the disciples said, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, can your Lord send down to us a table [spread with food] from the heaven? [Jesus] said," Fear Allah, if you should be believers."
jesus is just one of the many profiths send down by god.
Brody Richardson
Eradicating Judaism necessarily includes the complete removal of the satanic scum responsible for the actions of the US government. On this point, we agree.
Matthew Phillips
Birth rate is down to general conditions; wealthy countries with no war will have lower. War increases birth rate A LOT, as we saw with boomers.
Christian Russell
I know I just pointed out the hypocrisy of the US flag.
Lincoln Rogers
>On this point, we agree.
good.
can we also agree on this?
Qur'an 2:275
>Those who swallow usury cannot rise up save as he ariseth whom the devil hath prostrated by (his) touch. That is because they say: Trade is just like usury; whereas Allah permitteth trading and forbiddeth usury. He unto whom an admonition from his Lord cometh, and (he) refraineth (in obedience thereto), he shall keep (the profits of) that which is past, and his affair (henceforth) is with Allah. As for him who returneth (to usury) - Such are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein.
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Sharia prohibits riba, or usury,
we could live in peace cletus you purge your goverment and leave our countries and we shall leave yours alone.
Isaac Fisher
Its Islam.
Christianity is same thing,having kids is encouraged and its being said that its most beatiful thing in world and greatest gift of God(which is true).
Go to any Christian practicing family they will always have lots of kids.
Only difference is, most westerns are not devout Christians, its just easter, christmas celebration, while Islam is more aggresive, if u dont pray, go to mosque etc.. you are a sinner.
Henry Thompson
There's no doctrine that tell you to lie to further the interest of your religion in christianity. The new testament removed a lot of nasty shit.
Michael Allen
Yup. Jewish usury should be made illegal once again. I don't know that I'd advocate for Islamic banking as the replacement, but it's worth thinking about as we consider alternatives.
Dominic Brooks
>while Islam is more aggresive, if u dont pray, go to mosque etc.. you are a sinner.
you do know christianity before being cucked by librals was the exact same right?
go to any slavshit country to see how the deal with fags for example.
Jack Hill
Pakistanis account for 3.6% of the UK population and 40% of serious birth deformities.
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70% of Islam is the product of incest.
Adam Torres
>achievements of Islam
When the roach meme gets inbred into realty.
Cameron Bell
Pakistanis are known to marry their cousins a lot just like desis in general. I don't think using the case of pakis is a good argument to state that inbreeding is Islamic as it is observed by many 3rd world people whatever their religion is
Joshua Rogers
Slavs have their act together as a culture. Even the Muslims there are of a well-behaved sort. Bashing gays or any other group when they get out of line is normal behavior, and not an action rooted in religion.
Christianity, for instance, would not specify to go beat up gays and burn their shit down.
Aiden Carter
>. I don't know that I'd advocate for Islamic banking as the replacement, but it's worth thinking about as we consider alternatives.
good at least we can both agree on the tribe of israel.
>be bong
>have the most murderous empire in the world putting the nazis and the soviets to shame
>practiced child labour and treated workers even using them as cannon fodder in ww1
>have a permanent dirty underclass
>so inept that you dismanteled your own empire
Brandon Anderson
high birth rates is mostly because of stupidity and greediness or just being fucking idiot to make a family that think four daughter's gonna makes you happier even with minimum wage. not just muslim, chink doing it too in here.
they even treated it as competition. and thought the more kids you have the blessed you are.
fucking idiots.
Elijah Adams
>Slavs have their act together as a culture.
you have never been to russia friend? lmao you should see how the treat faggots there.
>Christianity, for instance, would not specify to go beat up gays and burn their shit down.
sodomy is a sin in Christianity cletus you do know that right?
Lucas Murphy
because they're poor and dumb
Carson Barnes
Plenty of things are sins. But there is no compulsion to go be violent toward sinners but rather to minister to them in the hopes that they might repent.
Nolan Carter
Well Balkanigs are poor and dumb but they don't do much either
Jordan Jackson
but beating people and destroyng their stuff is also a sin. Christianity teaches that only God can judge, brainlet
Michael Nguyen
>Christianity, for instance, would not specify to go beat up gays and burn their shit down.
t.protestantcuck
Landon Rogers
>but rather to minister to them in the hopes that they might repent.
minster? define minstering.
also you see very well what happens if you do not stop degeneration in it's tracks Multiculturalism false democracy fait currency fluoridated water destruction of the nuclear family imperialism the Federal Reserve dept slavery, sodomites brain dead ((consumerist)) citizens and feminism .
>Christianity teaches that only God can judge, brainlet
KEK you read a bit too much of the ((new testament where the removed all of the calls to action?
Robert Lee
And God hates faggots, so here is that.
Benjamin White
1. They are stupid and don't understand that having 6 kids means their family will live in poverty.
2. They don't believe in free will and think that if sex leads to unwanted babies then it is the will of Allah.
Low IQ people + medieval religion = shit society.
Isaac Lewis
>And God hates faggots, so here is that.
lmao based pastanigger.
James Green
Well obviously you'd want to keep subversive faggotry from infiltrating. There's a difference between not tolerating bullshit and beating people up or tossing them off buildings or whatever.
This may be above the intellectual ability of your average inbred Muslim. Backward doctrines like Islam and Judaism are appropriate rules for backward people who need harsh rules in order to survive.
Cameron Baker
Doing my job as a believer, user.
Samuel Ward
Hmm interesting. I don't know then
Jordan Brooks
>There's a difference between not tolerating bullshit and beating people up or tossing them off buildings or whatever.
what would you do then? not purge the faggot and let him poison society? you saw what happened in the 60's user.
may allah guide the rightuis user your doing good work.
Jack Mitchell
When your children are more likely to die in childhood, yes it is very important to have more of them. Basic evopsych. Used to be the same in west before prosperity and modern medicine
Liam Long
God bless you, it is only fair for abrahamic brothers to help each other against the degeneracy that threatens societies.
Jason Jones
That's why I condoned your pic related Slavshit cultural response. It's not a religious issue. That response is not quite appropriate where I live, so we would want to use more sophisticated methods like expelling all the Jews and retaking control of education, medicine, media, etc. so as to not encourage such harmful things.
Camden Torres
You can't stop degeneracy with degeneracy.
The new testament is the main book for Christians, and the teaching of Jesus Christ is what they follow, not the old testament.
Joshua Gutierrez
lool poison society? Homosexuality exists for a reason you idiot. It increases fitness of family members. LRN2Science
Bentley Barnes
>to die in childhood, yes it is very important to have more of them.
no you dumb bong the are social insurance there is no bid dick welfare state there it's your grandchildren that will take care of you.
>more sophisticated methods like expelling all the Jews and retaking control of education, medicine, media, etc
how would you accomplish that with out violence? the tribe of israel has there hands wraped around every thing nowadays.
cletus never let them take away your guns..
>God bless you, it is only fair for abrahamic brothers to help each other against the degeneracy that threatens societies.
exactly.
Jacob Ortiz
Low intelligence direct relation to high birth rate
Easton Robinson
>it is only fair for abrahamic brothers to help each other against the degeneracy that threatens societies.
Oh shit if abrahamic believers were actually all like that spending their time fighting degeneracy (the true enemy) instead of fighting eachother the world would be a better place
Noah Nelson
>you can't stop degeneracy with degeneracy
How is killing degenerates degenerate?
Levi Young
>You can't stop degeneracy with degeneracy.
purging the dregs/degenerates of society should remain a civilized affair i agree.
also the old testament is the word of god not something that can just be replaced by libral snakes.
0/10 bait bong.
Joseph Nelson
that must be the most subtle merchant if ever seen.
Kayden King
When I look up highest birth rates nearly everything that comes up first is African countries. In either case it’s probably the latter, though I don’t know enough about Islam to say.
Ethan Morgan
Rome wasn't built in a day and neither did it fall in a day. The JQ can't be answered overnight without having an actual Holocaust, and we're not culturally prepared to do that at this point.
This is an important point. While you and I might both see the cultural threat of the Jews, it's also important that the civilized world reject the spread of Islam because it is really no better. If the state of development of civilization in backward Islamic countries is such that Islam is a good way to keep order, then that's fine; they can progress at their own rate. If Russia needs a brutal government to keep order until it can modernize and prosper at its own rate, that's fine. I don't want Russian quality life in the US, either.
Justin Peterson
I totally agree with you. Christians, Muslims, Jews hate degeneracy, and despite some differences, they all come from the same place, hell, they both have an important city, Jerusalem; we are so similar, fighting each other is only gonna drive humanity into darkness, as you can see today. I blame the materialistic USA for destabilizing the Middle East.
Parker Foster
>I blame the materialistic USA for destabilizing the Middle East.
The USA is also to blame for using religion to have money, their commercialization of Christianity and their consumerism is disgusting.
Ryan Morgan
>most of the birth rates in muslem countries are dropping perhaps because of the rising living standards.
This has been shown to be the case in all developed countries. As infant mortality drops and the benefit of having many children for say running a farm are outweighed by the cost of raising a child birth rates will drop. Not to mention the wide spread availabity of birth control.
Adam King
You have to include the puzzle piece that what we typically call "Jews" today is actually the Synagogue of Satan.
Brandon Scott
>Rome wasn't built in a day and neither did it fall in a day. The JQ can't be answered overnight without having an actual Holocaust, and we're not culturally prepared to do that at this point.
but when will we? where living on borrowed time the degeneracy is rotting away at society at a rapid pace.
>it's also important that the civilized world reject the spread of Islam because it is really no better.
i agree we have our countries and you have yours.
yep that's the thing.
Benjamin Wood
I unironically consider the USA a threat for the entire world. Their society is an anthesis of what religion stands for: promiscuity, violence, sodomy. There's no place like the USA that is famous for it's cultural decadence.
Isaac Miller
this
Noah Gray
As far as I know,it has to do with education.
There’s a muslim mayority over here,but they’re having fewer children compared to when we were under commie rule and most of them barely had even basic education.
There even was a thread here on Sup Forums about some sandnigger in Germany that had 2 wives and like 7-8 children and even wanted to “import” another wife,and guess what,he was illiterate.
>t. Bosnian muslim
Matthew Campbell
I hardly consider the USA a Christian nation, if anything they twisted Christianity so much, let degeneracy flourish while destroying countries and pollutiong. The most degenerate shit I saw on the internet came either from the USA or South America. This country is just a mistake.
Grayson Baker
>but they’re having fewer children
Oh really? Watched a recent travel documentary about Bosnia where a frenchman took a café with 3 Bosniaks, the three Boskians said they wanted to have 6 children at least and remain the majority
John Parker
Just because it’s in the Koran does not mean that it is practiced.
Chase Adams
"8 Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives, 2 but early the next morning he was back again at the Temple. A crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and taught them. 3 As he was speaking, the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery. They put her in front of the crowd.
4 “Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”
6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” 8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
11 “No, Lord,” she said.
And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.” "
Not that I care
So you think we should also get on with jews? da fucc
Xavier Perry
Yeah at this point I wouldn't be against purging the entirety of America.
Dominic Garcia
I wouldn't consider it a Christian nation at all. Most people are just under various forms of mind control and believe whatever lies they were given, whether they masquerade as being "Christian" or otherwise.
Camden Watson
They might want to have a lot of children,but I think that’s wishfull thinking more than anything else.
Hell,in my ideal scenario I’d like to have 3 kids,but by the time I finish college and enter workforce,who knows what might happen.
Most people I know have one kid,two tops
Nicholas Edwards
>Hell,in my ideal scenario I’d like to have 3 kids
Based, especially considering the past of your people. Really hope God will give you those children.
Luke Perry
It's because they are mostly poor and poor people tend to have more kids.
Nolan Sanchez
Exactly, he said "Go and sin no more", he gave her another chance, the Lord forgives, but you must seek forgiveness, otherwise you're just a degenerate deserving to be hanged, simple as that.
I don't have anything against jews and muslims, they are chill people, and respectful I may add, but that may also be because I'm christian and not atheist. One of my manager is a jew, he is I dare to say a good person.
Jason Bailey
Thanks Frenchbro,all the best to you too.
To be honest,it’s kinda strange having a civilized convo on Sup Forums without someone chiming in talking about kebab removal and stuff
Owen Cook
>kebab removal
Those are just memes user, are you really taking them seriously?
Angel Gonzalez
Because they are non-white obviously. Whites do not have testosterone so they are unable to have children, if they do have children they mostly end up being girls.
Camden Ramirez
maybe muslims should stop mutilating genitals altogether. not just women. But I must say, labiaplasty is not a terrible idea, nobody likes a roastie.
Joseph Perry
It's predominantly the kebab that belongs back where it came from that we want removed. And not just kebab for that matter. More generally, it's a rejection of the satanic new world order.
Wyatt Perez
muh taqiyya
Alexander Brooks
Indeed it's rare on Sup Forums
>tfw we could all be international friendos
Jaxon Garcia
this.... /thread
Kayden Williams
I might have regarded them as memes before,but in recent times MSM media (mostly AlJazeera) like to throw nationalistic bones on normiebook,and number of Serbs,Croats and Bosniaks fighting and calling for genocide of one another is simply mind-boggling.
I don’t know,I hope it’s just vocal minority
Thomas Jones
It's almost like (((some people))) want us to fight when we don't really have much reason to fight.
Lincoln Gomez
I wonder (((who))) truly benefits from these fights
Ian Jones
You almost wonder what crawled up Lucifer's ass to fight so hard when he pretty much already had it all.
Julian Mitchell
Jesus claimed to be the son of God on multiple occasions which is what is so distinct about Christianity. No other major religion has had its founder claim to be God.
John 5:17-18
>17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
John 6:35
>And Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
John 5:58
>58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.
This last one is most important because “ I Am” is the name of a God according to the Jews, this is the name God gave to Moses when he asked what God’s name was. This means Jesus is claiming to be I Am, which is God.
Gavin Davis
It's a bunch of LARPing faggots, nothing to worry about. 100% sure it's a vocal minority.
Elijah Miller
USA is hijacked by jews and capitalism. Also, abrahamic religions are all inherently evil and designed to turn humans against each other. Eradicate them all.
Matthew Martinez
We are non white and super Muslim
Birth rate around 2 per woman look it up
I can’t explain it, lots of people have 5 or more kids. The stats are skewed.
Samuel Bailey
Their strong family values is what causes their high birth rates.
I'm white and my great grandparents on my Mother's side BOTH came from families with 12 kids or more.
Whites today use birth control and that stops probably 70% of births that would otherwise happen.
Not to mention abortions.
They'll have none of that in Islamic traditions so obviously they overtake us.
Weird but it's literally because Europeans are more sinful than they are.
Isaiah Butler
>muh joos
>Also, abrahamic religions are all inherently evil
Found the hedonist that grew in a dysfunctional family.