Explain to me the error in a socialist society as seen in Star Trek?

Explain to me the error in a socialist society as seen in Star Trek?

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it only works on film

Reality isn't written by soyboys that can fix everything by reversing the polarity on the primary warp conduit.

the "error" is unlimited resources. With replicators they can provide anything for anyone (on earth).

If you are not resource limited nearly any system works.

There isnt, they have the space magic required to actually make it work

It assumes everyone is equal in iq and genetics and only skin colour differs

>this is incorrect

they're not really socialist, they're post-scarcity.

they can make the necessities of life out of thin air.

Replicator makes food and medicine cost nothing.

replicators aren't real and niggers will always be niggers

fucking kek man

Fpbp.

As far as post-scarcity goes, the Federation is pretty good. The problem is when you apply post-scarcity morality to the present day

Star Trek is a world where communism could work because there's limitless resources

Essentially unlimited resources brought about by their replicator technology that can convert energy into mass, in any arrangement.

remember before humanity obtains its socialist utopia in star trek they also had to have eugenics wars. Also DS9 is about how the utopia is an illusion and star fleet is controlled by the deep state.

>look I have this science fiction series that proves that socialism works
I guess Santa is real then

I like Voyager

Ok ok I see the post-scarcity argument.
So are Ferengi just Alien Jew misers?

Yep.

this, something like half of the human population was killed in a global nuclear war

the federation is basically the european response to ww1 if ww1 was actually ww1 2 and 3 all at the same time

and they had replicators and warp drives

When we can turn energy directly into useful things like food, sign me up.

Watching it now

Never said that.
I wanted to know if it could be feasible

>socialism works
its not even socialism, its a hard on merit based society.

That would overload the influx matrix on the warp nacelles. It's almost as if you know nothing about fake technology at all.

kill yourself shill rat

Its already happening and we are the plebs that are left behind. Also the w part episode called conspiracy it turns out all the high ranking admirals were,controlled,by worms and that isn't too far off either.

hahaha holy shit faggot... everyone knows the influx matrix is only used in the holodeck you fucking retard

>socialist
The federation is actually fascist. Get your facts straight.

7 of 9 saved that show
You know, due to squeezing Jeri Ryan into a bodysuit

Nothing but it only works on film for a number of reasons
1. There is no elected leader (Fascist system)
2. Nobody gets a salary
3. Nobody owns anything except for property on earth

Looks like my degree in fake technology isn't worth the paper it was written on...

>implying the brutal fascism of the Klingons wasn't superior

you're thinking about the omnidirectional holographic matrix retard

How so?

There is no error in it.

I'm sure this thread will get lots of shitposting, but Star Trek is essentially a post scarcity society due to replicators. It's not exactly communism, it's not exactly socialism, it's something else.

Post scarcity is the only way a system like that could truly work without relying on mass oppression or bullies.

Its only humans, and only humans on Earth or in Starfleet service that enjoy the greatest benefits of society. Its possibly oligarchic rather than socialist and everyone on Earth is in basically the Federation elite.

I don't like to think of it like that so I see it as basically being an Amazon Prime member but you get X amount free every month. With X being so large compared to the price of almost everything someone could personally want, due to replicators, that they never really think about it. DS9 mentions "transporter credits", so use of high tech things or services are rationed.

> infinite free energy
> replicators create everything
> holodecks

They're never clear about money. Sisko's dad runs a restaurant, but no one explains why anyone would work as a waiter in a moneyless society. People gamble.

My guess is that vast swaths of the Federation population live their lives in holodecks. What we see are just the fraction of people who are motivated by real world results.

If you are not resource limited, niggers breed until you are.

omg get up to date on the times... that's original series tech! they upgraded past omnidirectional in the 2420s

Like so:
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>the trouble with tribbles

>If you are not resource limited nearly any system works.


TPBP

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stfu you fake social scientists... fake STEM takes precedence

It doesn't even work on film.

You can't explain Section 31 being part of the Federation unless you admit that there will always be people who have to carry out the messy wetwork that comes with having enemies that do not take yo or your ideals seriously. Your enemies will conquer you if your protectors aren't willing to get their hands dirty to keep you alive, and sometimes it does betray your ideals to win. Ask Ben Sisko..

An episode of DS9 shows that there is a Federation president, an alien, in France who is clearly the commander-in-chief of Starfleet. Some Federation members still retain their own militaries as well.

Its a mixed bag based on story requirements really and not very consistent.

formfitting pocketless clothing makes it difficult to CCW/steal shit.

>ywn hug a tribble

Stupid space commies in pajamas.

>Explain to me the error in a socialist society as seen in Star Trek?
It's fiction, and therefore they can make it seem like it would all work out, even if in reality it would not.

It's fake and gay

When Gene died, the writers could get away with a lot more. They realized that even in post scarcity economies, money is still going to exist because humanity is greedy to a certain extent. Money doesn't need to exist within Starfleet because it's essentially a fascist military dictatorship. But outside Starfleet there were people on earth that owned their own businesses, like captain Sisko's dad and Picard's brother. DS9 also introduced latinum. This was only possible because Gene died in 1991 and was ill the year prior to his death. His stronghold on TNG stopped after season 2 and it's remarkable how much the show changed afterwards.

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That's essentially the same issue with The Culture in Ian Banks novels.

why is the female empath a psycologist and the brutal nigger klingon the security seems pretty racist sexist opressive tbhsmhfywenat3uyaqfam

> de-boarding and boarding vehicles is fatal

KEK, underrated.

kys my man

DS9 is patrician

Nice

>fatal
>implying that even when you successfully use the transporter and don't get turned inside out or merged into the floor you aren't still being murdered because the transporter is a suicide box

Godlessness.

Niggers were exterminated in eugenics wars. Plus, there was some reference to having birth control policy.

they are post-scarcity (replicators)
we are not, because it is profitable

>but no one explains why anyone would work as a waiter in a moneyless society.
I always thought the government provides your basic care (food and housing), but if you want moar, you have to go to work. Not everyone can be a captain in a space-faring society, and since robots are just not ready for mass production and holograms are too expensive and tend to become sentient all the time, nobody wants to deal with the ethic questions that might come up. And believe it or not, but some people like the job as a waiter.

Tell me more.

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It's not an error, it's a fantasy.

Notice how everyone magically gets along becuase reasons.

Don’t they have replicators that print everything and unlimited free energy?
Oh those things don’t exist in the real world?
Yeah next do Harry Potter you dumb shit

Even the Chakotay episodes?

this

relicators=pizza rolls
good enough to survive, but not as good as real food. Even Scotty hated replicated alcohol.

The ST timeline had the world going through a third world war then some jackass makes a warp drive and the pointy eared fucks pay a visit. The last part wasn't on the Georgia guide stones but the first part implies a global genocide. Roddenberry was just using the old prophecies to imagine the perfect future after war.
It's funny you bring that up because those plot arcs came after Roddenberry left the show. The whole DS-9 premise was rejected by him many times because of the conflict driven plot

You're not wrong

Some species' transporters are, like the Cardassian one that lets you make people into Holodeck characters. Federation ones have different types and an episode with Lt.Barclay shows that, at least on the Enterprise, you are concious the entire time.

No error, Section 31 is there to keep the normies oblivious to the finer details of creating a utopia.
>So secret even Roddenberry didn't know about them

just noticed this kek

It's not really socialism it's a post-scarcity society. The federation doesn't need to re-distribute wealth or resources because replicators can make food. water, etc. out of thin air.

It's fictional and all the benefits stem from being as such. infinite energy and resources is not something we'll be coming up with any time soon, if ever.

>utopia is socialism
You are fucking dumb user. Socialism never had migrants, especially not space niggers.

This is the truth

kys

Still needed a fusion power source to get whatever you wanted, it wasn't "free"

Yeah it actually became watchable.

Oh hey, it's the best moment in all of Star Trek.

And DS9 is the best Star Trek. Hmm, how about that.

What, you didn't like Seven of Tits?
fag

There was something about conditioning and thought control that is turned off when you join the fleet.

Unlimited resources due to replicators is the line between fiction and reality. Maybe one day this tech will exist but until then we are stuck with (((currency)))

Oh yeah, there is one thing that's always overlooked in the argument of unlimited resources. Space.

Only so many cozy cabins alone in the wilderness with the lakeside view. Who gets those? Want a mansion on the beach? You and everyone else. Those are limitless and in Star Trek they state the population of Earth to be something like 17 billion, so it'd be an even greater issue than it is now.

it's militaristic and hierarchical for the people that matter, it's socialist only for plebs and bums that remain in earth eating their own shit

Are saying given the choice everyone would want a mansion?

3D printers just need to miniaturize down to the atomic scale and wrap sunlight into protons, neutrons and electrons into their respective quantum localized disturbances in the time space continuum. too bad we're still stuck on communications

God dame space immigrants hahhaah

SpAcE JeWs!

>Roddenberry was just using the old prophecies to imagine the perfect future after war.

i like how tng modeled the borg after revelation 21

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If this tech existed i would die from alcoholism lol computer more beer!

i loved watching 'canada in space' or voyager as you call it.

some useless token character as the leader pandering to gender equality and hilariously out of her depth.

the petty nagging whore who is supposed to be the attractive femme, but is just awful.

and the faggot soy boys with receding hair who are their as the 'muscle' but just end up doing whatever idiotic senseless shit the fucking useless captain feels like.

the doctor was the only decent character

Soviet Union failed to make it happen. China failed to make it happen. Neither of them even got close.

>want a mansion on the beach
No, and I'm pretty sure the vast majority of humanity doesn't either.

First Contact was supposed to be the closest view of what the world would look like after ww3

They are controled to not want more than they have.