Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
“A nation lives forever through its concepts, honour, and culture. It is for these reasons that the rulers of nations must judge and act not only on the basis of physical and material interests of the nation but on the basis of the nation's historical honour, of the nation's eternal interests. Thus: not bread at all costs, but honour at all costs.” ― Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, For My Legionaries
Fuck, i meant to say "/Fsg/ - Fascist General- National Union edition.
Colton Roberts
Reporting in.
Kudos for the Portuguese Youth sign (I think, or was this the Portuguese Legion? meh...)!
Jonathan Jones
Thanks.
Zachary Rivera
I think you mean these guys?
Ayden Green
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Alexander King
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Jayden Johnson
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Wyatt Smith
Yep, the Portuguese Youth wears the Cruz of Avis. I am intrigued now for that symbol you posted...
Jacob Evans
Memes...
Elijah Smith
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Julian Russell
It's the symbol of the National Union. Sort of the political party that ruled when it was the Estado Novo.
Dominic Ramirez
Does that guy still come here? He really is retarded. Is this the guy that destroyed Portugal?
Kayden Price
It's the National Union symbol, the only party that portuguese regime had in those salazar decades.
Aiden Morales
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Isaiah Adams
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Ryan Perez
Bump.
Ian Campbell
Thanks, man.
Nathan Reyes
Thanks.
Charles Wilson
No problem
Jackson Rodriguez
No. He was a general under Salazar who fought in the colonial war in Guinea Bissau (the jungle, it was the theatre where we got more btfo). He wrote a book in which he presented a solution of a federated Portuguese Empire with the colonies as independent states... Marcelo Caetano, the guy who had to give up power because of the coup demanded that Spínola would lead the country as a condition for his surrender so that "the power does not fall onto the street or to the communists".
Anyway, Spínola his youth he fought against the Soviet Union for Nazi Germany as a volunteer in the Blue Division. So it is funny it appears on the cover of time in the 70s.
Ethan Peterson
Communism is inevitable
Easton Sanchez
Thanks dude.
Landon White
Oh, really? Sorry about what i said. He seems to have his heart in the right place.
Dylan Peterson
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Mason Jenkins
Clerical Fascism is the ultimate redpill.
Ian Hall
I have mixed feelings about it. I think he got to be president or something but he could not control the army, his own army. He was deposed and we got near a Civil War in that another based General and his "friends" intervened. Also, his ideas about "how to save the empire" - I guess it was the title of his book - were rather shitty.
Eli Bailey
DEUS PÁTRIA SENPAIÍLIA
Brody Martinez
Well you did say he wanted a Federated Empire with independent states, which sounds rather silly.
Sebastian Gutierrez
Wtf why does it switch "family" to some weeb shit?
Bentley Morgan
Doesn't that cross belong to the New Order? Another fascist party that existed during the Estado Novo?
Benjamin Martinez
Nothing is inevitable, things are likely to happen but nothing is ever inevitable.
Bentley Thomas
Bump
Samuel Robinson
Why did you reply to the Commie memeflag? You probably made him think people will pay attention to him now.
Cooper Evans
That cross belongs to the Order of Christ, which goes back to the time of Infante Henrique. It's not a symbol of fascism even if it was appropriated much, much later for that purpose.
Alexander Flores
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Sebastian Ramirez
Ah, well thank you for correcting me.
Jackson Green
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Samuel Rogers
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Angel Watson
This cross is one of Portugal's oldest symbols, originating in 1317 as the symbol of the order of christ, which was kind of a sucessor to the templars of Tomar. They were the patrons of portuguese maritime expansion and was the first flag to reach any new territories that our country reached
Tyler Barnes
Alright guys, I'm gonna post some stuff on the Czech Fascist group.
Alexander Jones
The New Order just adopted the cross, it's the portuguese knights order - medieval cross, that portuguese ships had in their galleons and caravels sails in the discoveries and conquero...
Logan Wright
I will never understand why Salazar didn't get rid of that miserable Masonic/Republican flag.
Aiden Allen
Has anyone got audio or video of Mosley's Earl Court Speech?
Ive seen one minute fragments so I know there was some film or audio taken.
Owen Thomas
Do you think he should have switched it back to the original flag?
Yeah, but I think we can go even deeper in the rabbit hole. Full blown Traditionalism: Nation, King, Culture, Family... what we lost.
So here I'll leave an excerpt about D. Miguel I the Portuguese King deposed for the introduction of Liberalism, Masonry and all that shit. Here it is, by a liberal turned Traditionalist (and proto-fascist / integralist) Historian about how the average common folk saw D. Miguel during the Civil War:
"D. Miguel and his frank plebeianism were the genuine expression of the Old Portugal, which from crisis to crisis, was now facing the its last one. The King passed through on horseback, on galope, with his sceptre stuck in the sele, young and radiant; and the common folk in the streets would stop to appreciate him, with a naive air of joy; the mendicants of an impoverished town would approach and kneel for the King, which out of his pocket would give them some money; the women prayed, asking for God to protect such a beautiful King, such a good King, such a friend of the people. New prayers were developed, in which Portugal, taking the place of Jerusalem, was the motif of ardent psalms, invoking the Most Pure and Virgin Our Lady Mother of God to protect the King, to defend him from all his enemies, to defend the Kingdom from the pestilent and hellish spread of the masonic sect... etc. Whenever he appeared in public, Dom Miguel was hailed as a victor, taken in triumph, between blessings and delusional acclamations: Once, going through the road in Queluz (today a suburb of Lisbon - 25% shitskins or so) the King found himself surrounded, unable to advance forward. It was generals of the army, royalist volunteers, peasants, men, women, people of all ages and classes who pushing the royal carriage took him in triumph up to Val-de-Pereiro. No one would command it, no one would organise these actions which appeared spontaneously as a living expression of popular enthusiasm. (cont).
Bentley Gutierrez
Never heard of this...
Nolan Allen
união nacional rapaz!
Ayden Scott
Umm ... maybe 70+ years of brainwashing against the nazis does the trick?
Asher Parker
Aye, at least according to the last time I checked
>Why do normies treat the idea of fascism as the bane of all evil They dont see fascism as the bane of fall evil. Although Im guessing you miss-typed.
Because its been turned into the ideological opposite - the darkness that is there when the light of democracy isnt.
>when they embrace nature even though nature is inherently fascist? They dont embrace nature in fact they crave its very opposite hence the obsession with equality and using technology heal their weakness and mask the destructivness of their lifestyles.
Hence the billions spent on finding a cure for AIDs.
Levi Wright
Prove it! Do you know the pic i just posted?
Elijah Lee
We're going down the drain like the rest of Europe, we may not have shitskins coming over by the thousands but our youth is corrupted. It is weak, pathetic, left-leaning. Even right-wing ones shun the idea of fighting or waging war. People get pissed at football and yet ignore major issues we face today. Our generation isn't up to the challenge of rising up and take up arms once more whether it being for our race or Europe, let alone ourselves.
Bentley Young
Both
Julian Bell
The only thing Portugal has to do now, just like England France and España is to deport and stay away of non europeans, also close the borders. Without identity you will never reach glory again, i assure you that,.
Joseph Roberts
I'm not sure, I just like the flag and the Mussolini uniform. It's aesthetic
James Campbell
Some guy asked to post Corneliu, So I posted pictures related to him that I took from Tumblr
Wyatt Allen
>the defeatist child
Europe doesn´t need people like you. redpills are needed.
Oliver Long
>tfw according to F U T U R I S T . C O O K I N G pasta is killing Italia
Levi Perry
that will never fix the root cause which is a lack of morality
Blake Hill
(cont). The feeling in the air was that of a Crusade. Dom Miguel was a new Peter the Eremit. It was even created a new Knightly Order: The Order of Saint Michael of the Wing, an order of which the King D. Miguel was the Grand Master, in order to defend the Holy Catholic Apostolic and Roman Religion and to restore the Portuguese Legitimacy. Everytime D. Miguel would stop and it was the elderly, the women with children by the hand, that would come to greet him with sad hails, around him on their knees, asking for the royal blessing (...) D. Miguel would go through entire villages that would come out to wait for the King in their knees, giving to him what they could: Flowers, blessings and acclamations.
Now, the Pope Gregory XVI about D. Miguel: "I have here the most Catholic King of all Christendom". In 1843, when he was King no more.
Alexis de Tocqueville about the events in Portugal and the civil war that D. Miguel lost:
"The Revolution ended up doing, suddenly, in a painfully and convulsive effort, with no transition, no caution, no respect, what time would eventually do little by little. Such was its acomplishment."
Adrian King
The root is not lack of morality, that'sjust the downgrade, the root is cultural marxism.
Angel Green
Good luck redpilling people who don't want to be redpilled, are apolitical and have no interest in history.
Zachary Reyes
Yeah, it's you, welcome home, tacobro. It's me, the one who usually makes these threads.
Daniel Edwards
When was the first Portuguese Republic formed? I hear it was very unstable.
Evan Davis
Are you the goy who also provided synarchism books?
Zachary Perry
As armas e os barões assinalados / The weapons and the barons worthy of note Que da Ocidental praia Lusitana / Which from the Western Lusitanian beach Por mares nunca de antes navegados / Through never before sailed seas Passaram ainda além da Taprobana / Went through and beyond the unmeet Em perigos e guerras esforçados / In dangers and wars with great effort Mais do que prometia a força humana / More than what human strenght allowed E entre gente remota edificaram / And between far away people build Novo Reino, que tanto sublimaram / This New Kingdom, so sublime
Jayden Evans
Shit, I have the credentials to translate much better...
Ryan Carter
Now some stuff on the Iron Guard.
Jordan Richardson
Yep Thanks Not with that attitude If you are not an orator you can wirk from the ground and TEACH one or two people. If you are a great orator then the world is yours What’s important is that you don’t go and change people, you are a tracher who’s teaching change his students
Gabriel Moore
Part 2.
Eli Hughes
Part 3.
David Lewis
Wow wow wow!
That is the Holy Cross of Christ! The Cross of the Order of Christ! The only legitimate heirs of the Templar Order. In Portugal they literally offered them a castle and re-named it Order of Christ. They are the Templars and they continued with the same mission. The Pope allowed it because they were very good at fucking up the moslems here. They then were responsible for literally our empire and our conquests overseas so that Princes would join them and out boats would sailed under their flag. Even today it is the symbol of the air force because it was considered they too were noble warriors venturing into the unknown, staring death in the eyes.
The Order of Christ was super important in Portugal and only ended in 1834 after the Liberal and Masonic Civil War which ousted D. Miguel, The Traditionalist, from his legitimate position as King of Portugal through treacherous means.
Colton Perry
Yeah, i feel foolish now.
Blake Thompson
Noice Portugal is that super-power everyone forgets about
Isaiah Cooper
Lel this board is so cucked that it had to replace nsg with fascism to appeal to the kiked the_donald newfags. I obviously have nothing against fascism but this board is getting pretty deep into civnat territory.
Michael White
Yeah, that is true. /Fsg/ has been around for a while.
Anthony Carter
1910, the republicans virtually marched unopposed as the monarchy had taken many several blows, such as the regicide that killed both the king and the successor in a similar fashion to the death of Ferninand in 1914. The first republic had a rough start and tried to unite the people with ww1, but it was a failure, problems seemt to increase year after year untill the crash. by then it was clear that it was a failure >needless deaths in ww1 >broken economy >always on verge of bankrupcy >people embezzeling funds from banks and even illegally printing money >governamets that would last weeks >political murders >anarcho bombers >strikes >active and bloody persecution of the clergy >ocasional regional revolts in favor of the monarchy >scenes of violence in the parliment
only ended when general Gomes da Costa marched from Braga to Lisbon with his garrison, having the rest following him as he approached rather than blocking his path
Connor Collins
The Estado Novo fixed all problems, no?
Hunter Cook
national socialism is just a branch of fascism faggot
Juan Ramirez
The monarchical factions were indeed several. Also, if he were to put a King in power he had to chose one side: a) The Kings deposed in 1910, with a system which was literally democratic (albeit only people with some education and a given amount of money could vote) and a system in which the nobility had to pay the state for their titles, which meant that it would be profitable to sell titles to rich people. Also, that regime 1834-1910 was always controlled by masons and destroyed all our natural institutions. b) The kings deposed in 1834, which were bad ass and Traditionalists. We had a democratic element, yes, but we had to bring back our institutions which introduced a lot of aristocratic barriers... also most of those nobles were already exiled across Europe for more than 100 years...
Anyway, if Salazar was to install a King we would definitely lose power. Also, it would throw the country into a huge mess (probably civil war) as most people were against it and although most elites were for it, they couldn't agree on who was legitimate.
He couldn't bring the Monarchic flag without bringing back the King.
Pic related, the flag of Portugal (1640-1834) and the flag of the Traditionalist faction.
Kayden Sanchez
I know, and i support fsg. Im just upset that this is as far as we can go now.
Anthony Fisher
Salazar fixed all problems
Joseph Morris
/nsg/ is still around you know. This thread is dedicated to all brands of Fascism.
Julian Gomez
WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION EVERY DAY WE WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION EVERY DAY AND WE WILL UNTIL YOU FAGGOTS AGREE WITH ME
Dylan Peterson
Based Frenchmen for the win!
Grayson Wood
feels bad man
Jace Bailey
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Zachary Richardson
Aren't there still /nsg/ threads every now and then? We aren't responsible for their threads.
