After some careful consideration and wiping off the nostaglia goggles...

After some careful consideration and wiping off the nostaglia goggles, i can't help but admit that Fate/Zero is absolutely superior to Fate/Stay Night

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Fate is the new Naruto

I'm willing to agree with this.

Fate stay night Is objectively superior because Shinji is in it.

BnH is Newruto
Fate is like the old's younger brother

But the other has Shinji sr.

I wasn't aware anyone with a functioning brain said different. It's an objectively better series in almost every way

Cast of adults>teenage school trash

They are both garbage but Zero fans are worse >muh maturity

He wins the Grail War and cares for Shinji who has undegenerated magic circuits. What happens?

You'll notice, OP, that basically all Stay Night discussion ends in powerlevel autism or waifufaggotry, while Zero threads almost always end up in arguments over morals and which way of thinking was right (that and assblasted VNfags). Says a lot about how much better Zero is than Stay Night.

>being a GROWN ASS MAN
>wanting to watch a show about kids than adults

Re valuate your life decisions manchild

He was just a pedophile maniac though.

A spinoff with shinji as the main character.

Nah, the source material is still alright. It's shit like FGO that ruins the franchise.

This has to be bait, there are no ''zero threads'', every single one is something along the line of this thread, bait. Most likely because there is actually nothing to discuss regarding zero, it's a simple action story that recycles the same themes from stay night but dumbs them down for brainlets.

>here are no ''zero threads''
>he's never seen "who was in the wrong" zero threads with pic related that go on to having deep discussions

newfag detected

I agree with you, after all Lancelot is unrivaled and the strongest servant

There have been countless threads about Kiritsugu's morals, Kirei/Gilgamesh's back and forths, and especially . Contain yourself, newfag.

Now SN has a tonne of discussions. How many of those are something worthwhile? 99% of it is waifu trash, and not even fucking good waifus, all of their reasons to exist that have any major driving force behind them boil down to "muh MC's dick" in the end.

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This, zero haters are just mad because they can't understand how deep and meaningful it is

I know you're shitposting but you're not far from the truth, people who argue about waifushit like Rin vs Sakura and think Shirou actually had anything but annoying childish morals aren't going to appreciate anything that isn't a glorified shonen with sex scenes.

But I'm not trolling, it's my genuine opinion

>cast of "adults"
Too bad none of them act as such.

I actually had to laugh reading this. You are not actually suggesting that the any of the three routes in fate are by any means "deep" right?

If Fate routes aren't deep then neither is Zero. Everything worthwile about it was recycled from it, after all.

>shitting over Saber with his even shittier philosophy

>A porn game is the new popular kids' show
What fucking timeline are we in?

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>All he has to do is be a mana battery and Lancelot would win it for him
>Loses anyway due to mana loss
ONE JOB

DUDE

>Lancelot would win it for him

Lancelot is unrivaled, name a character that can win against Lancelot.
You fucking can't

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Could he beat Madara?

Karna.

TRISTAN is beyond Kekacock level.

A FUCKING A-RANK

He just KoO a SATAN 2 and blows them up
Karna is a jobber, he lost against Sieg

To me the holy grail war seems a lot more like this big "event" so to speak in Zero, I mean in Stay Night pretty much all the masters are all from the same fucking school which is just so stupid to me, in Zero mages from all over the world came to the city which felt a lot better, it's not simply about adult vs teenage shit, there's a lot of other contributing factors here

Kekacock is a jobber who is below Solomon level. TRISTAN is the #1 of the round table.

>name a character that can win against Lancelot.
Guinevere

Agravain.

pretending to be Melvin is hard, I give up

>The Cornish harper, Tristan, was among those knights famous before joining alongside King Arthur. Indeed, were it not for his need to keep himself away from his beloved Iseult, it is difficult to imagine Tristan having entered into such a life. His musical ability is unmatched among the knights, and he has much appreciation for the arts. While his weapon prowess is more limited, his actual skill in swordsmanship is equal to Lancelot. More to his preference is his enchanted bow, Failnaught. While it lacks the overall devastating power of the swords his companions use, it is undeniably a cheat weapon, capable of both creating beautiful music and shredding enemies apart from afar. It is also believed to grant him flight.
>weapon so good it's a cheat
Tristan > Kekacock and Gilgameme

I hate to say it, but Gilgamesh could probably have fucked his day in Zero because he wasn't made of jobber mud at the time.

maybe they just didnt advertise the fifth war

>The handsome 1st of the Round Table? ...Oh, you mean the bird? Oh right, he's #1 of the Round Table wasn't he? Hmm.. Well, as long as he shuts up you can't see his faults, his voice is not bad too, so that's reasonable enough I guess? Though I just find his type irritating.
>Oh right, he's #1 of the Round Table wasn't he?
>#1
>Kekacock sucker falseflagger BTFO
maybe you should stop sucking on kekacock so hard

There wasn't supposed to be a war so soon after the last one

This. Kekacock and gilgameme are she shit that everyone didn't want to get laughed to death.

Emiya. He'd project excalibur, and lancelot would gladly impale himself on it.

Hey guys I upgraded Mordred.

But Kekacock is so shit that he'd kil his own masters before ememeya had a chance

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The war in Zero was a prepared event, as you said. Everyone knew that it was coming up and everyone was prepared.
The war in SN on the other hand happened decades early, and even then a couple of masters were summoned to Fuyuki on a short notice, they just happened to get BTFO before the war even started by Kirei/Medea.

I want Oyakodon!

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Would male Arthur fall for Shirou as well?

Maybe if shirou is gudako

Shirou is Gudako, Rin is Gudao.

Realta Nua is the new canon.

Only three out of seven were from the same school, you just happen to interact with them the most because the protagonist is one of them. The other three are all foreigners, plus Servant that fucked the rules/Zouken in HF. It's just two of them got killed by Medea and Kirei and replaced.

Wrong pic user.

No, Shiro would refuse to wear underwear that wasn't picked out for him by his king.

No, I just wanted to post the best Master.

Would have been way better if the mc wasn't an annoying manchild.

faG
fag

So is Extra best story that's about the holy grail war?
Also can we agree that Hakuno is just silly good as master?

Shiro
Rin
The teacher who was basically the only human element of team Caster which included Assassin
Both the Matous
That's a solid half it not for the shinanigans Kotomine did to lower the numbers and Illya being Shiro's not blood related sister didn't help make the 5th war feel like a more global clusterfuck.

No, no. Faggot.

kys

Why are the FeMCs so much better?

NERO BRIDE ROUTE TRANSLATION WHEN

Yes Extra is better than Stay Night because Hakuno>>>>>>>>>>>Shirou

See
And then

>Whore of Babylon

Go away Gawain

not in Heavens' Feel please.

nostalgia to what? the DEEN version?

>You will never raise loli Mordred right

>A three way talk that hinges on saber acting out of character is ''deep''
The point is that everything you SO DEEP AND MATURE zerofags spout is shit that is already talked about in the VN and discussed in Fate threads. The only reason you jerk off zero is because of the edgy death scenes and kiritsugu reminding you of yourself with his trenchcoat and fedora

Honestly I thought Kiritsugu was the weakest part of Zero, but I still really liked it.

As a filthy secondary, let me ask the following. Was it ever mentioned in Zero if the Grail was corrupted? If not, what kind of takeaway are secondaries supposed to take from the ending of Zero? That the Grail grants the winners wish in the most cataclysmic way possible like an evil Christian genie?

Kiri was great in my opinion. At least until his breakdown over snackbaring his sensei. That was a weird scene. Felt really forced, fake, and out of place.

There's nothing wrong with liking zero, it's not necessary story or lore wise but it's still a fun ride. It's just zerofags are absolute cancer

Honestly I skipped his second flashback episode because I just gave no fucks about him.

As a Zerofag ____;-;

The first step is admitting that you have a problem.
The second step is to kys

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Mods can you please permaban OP

How did Gil made Hakuno fall, just by giving her sweets from GoB?

There's a difference between preferring zero and being a zerofag, it's fine buddy

I envy your ignorance. That scene completely derailed the last quarter of Zero. Bitter aftertaste all the way to the end of the series as a result.

I enjoyed Zero but I hated how out of character Saber acted through the entire thing.
>Leave your master alone and at the mercy of an enemy servant who you willingly allowed to pass
>Act like your master is the asshole because he no longer trusts you

I sorta wished I skipped his first flashback too, zombie island wasn't very fun. Although the spoiler about what a shit bastard he was as a kid in the book version at least would have made it kinda interesting.

>Why are the FeMCs so much better?
Because she looks like those cute characters from mmo dance games like lovebeat. Her character design stands out from the rest.

I'm a Zerofag. I just don't fall into the autism of "you can't prefer something I /think/ [Im not a writer or anime critic, what the fuck would I know] is objectively worse".
Fuck, giving the expositional mouthpiece an actual personality and character arch was great though. Waver and Iksander were easily my favorite part of the series. Wish some writers would learn from that.

Out of character compared to SN / UBW or the VNs?

I think it could've been handled better (maybe segmented flashbacks with relevant tie-ins or parallels). But i felt like we needed at least a bit of backstory for Kiri before the Grail War's conclusion.

I would love to see Kirei working as an Executor...

Out of character compared to literally every other appearance she's made.
Saber was always loyal to a fault, to the point that even when she had to make a contract with Rin, she remained loyal to Shirou because he was who she swore loyalty to as a knight.
In Zero, she whined about Kiritisugu being distant, ignored Iris' attempts at explaining it and then actively sabotaged her own master for her own selfishness before becoming genuinely angry over her master not wanting to deal with her anymore because of it. This all happened before Kayneth was killed too, so it can't even be blamed on that.