Bulgarian Deputy Prime Minister Valeri Simeonov sharply criticised Russian Patriarch Kirill for seeking to impose the Kremlin’s view of the Russo-Turkish War, describing the cleric as a former KGB agent – “a second-rate Soviet cop” who had no business lecturing Bulgaria’s President about history.
“This Kirill is not descended from heaven…he is not the messenger of the Lord God or Jesus Christ,” Simeonov said. “Kirill is known as the cigarette metropolitan of Russia. From 1996, he got $14 billion from importing non-proprietary cigarettes,” the deputy prime minister said.
Simeonov said that Kirill had a private aircraft, a villa in Switzerland, a $30 000 watch “and he has the insolence to give judgment in front of the Bulgarian President”.
He asked what would happen if Bulgarian Orthodox Church Patriarch Neofit went to Moscow and started lecturing Vladimir Putin about history, with Simeonov imagining Neofit challenging Putin about the Russian president’s untrue claim that Saints Cyril and Methodius came from Byzantium. “What would happen to him?”
“And this is a spiritual person,” Simeonov said, referring to Kirill. “A spiritual person, when he mentions the victims of these battles, he takes out their bones and throws them out of history. What is he? He is not an Eastern Orthodox cleric. He is Agent Mihailov, of the Soviet KGB, that is proven. A second-rate Soviet cop coming to me to say what is true and not true? Excuse me,” Simeonov said.
A day before Simeonov’s comments, Kirill’s conduct also was called into question by two Bulgarian former presidents, Petar Stoyanov and Rossen Plevneliev.
>the Russian president’s untrue claim that Saints Cyril and Methodius came from Byzantium Where did they come from?
Ayden Gray
Become Catholic.
Anthony Bell
I don't know much about the history of Orthodoxy.
Jayden Morgan
Ok, because i've never heard anyone ever claiming otherwise. I also didn't get this part >seeking to impose the Kremlin’s view of the Russo-Turkish War What are they arguing for? As for Kirill, i don't know much about him. It seems he gets lots of criticism but i can't be sure if it's legit or the same old western anti Russian propaganda. It would be very serious if it's true though.
Jonathan Murphy
I mean these >“Kirill is known as the cigarette metropolitan of Russia. From 1996, he got $14 billion from importing non-proprietary cigarettes,” the deputy prime minister said. >Simeonov said that Kirill had a private aircraft, a villa in Switzerland, a $30 000 watch “
Xavier Carter
i have always suspected putins rise among other things (for example this cleric thing) was a syntom of something that not many have tought
a literal kgb rise to power
if russia becames a one party state in the future i will take it as a confirmation
Cameron Hughes
>in the future
Oliver Russell
Both are true. The church had special permit for alcohol and tobaco sales in 90s, and there was a recent scandal with watches shoped away from his wrist but they forgot to edit them out of reflection.
William Flores
>What are they arguing for? The head of the Russian Orthodox Church expressed dissatisfaction with the speech of Bulgarian President Rumen Radev at the celebrations in honor of the 140th anniversary of liberation from the Ottoman yoke. According to Cyril, Radev did not sufficiently emphasize Russia's role in the victory over the Ottoman Empire.
Easton Gray
russophiles BTFO
Thomas Ross
DEY WUZ BULGARZ N SHEEEIT?
Aaron Turner
How fucking stupid can you get like ok villas and other things can be hidden from sight, but 30k watches. What ever you think about the pope he rocks this watch which is about 10$ or something
Landon Myers
>KGBPatriarch >Commie Pope >every Prot cult co-opted by Marxists Truly the Lord has given up on this rock.
Nicholas Powell
>private aircraft Head of the Russian Orthodox Church Patriarch Kirill flew to St. Petersburg on a business jet with increased comfort. Aircraft Legacy 600 VP-BGL company "Sirius-Aero" has on its board a few berths, equipped with satellite fax, it has a TV and comfortable chairs. The salon of the business jet, in which Patriarch Kirill flew from Moscow to Petersburg, is decorated with a polished tree.
Jayden Taylor
be scared indian every government is beeing weakened but one china regime only keeps strengtening
seems like communism will win after all
Carson Powell
you and all need to learn more about ortodoxy or stay out of it making retarded comments
Justin Ross
Do you know that the greek and bulgarian orthodox rejected the patriarch Kirill, calling him a pseudo-orthodox? In many respects this is due to the completely unorthodox patriach Kirills's life Patriarch Kirill is the richest clergyman
Isaiah White
I really don't know nothing about Bulgarian history but this looks to me like a fight for cultural influence over Bulgaria between Russia and EU. Things don't work like this in Orthodoxy. No patriarch have the power to mess with the faith orthe dogma, not even the ecumenical patriarch. That's the difference from the pope.
Mason Ward
you do not know first shit about it ,we ortodox countries are actually allowed to criticize and call out each other for such things second is, more powerful country is, more money there will be put in church, if you think that is expensive i assume u have never seen church with whole wall and icons out of gold?
Bentley Russell
>more money there will be put in church Now think about whose money will be spent on expensive watches, airplanes, villas, expensive cars for the church. Money of ordinary people, which are taken from the budget of the country. I think this is abnormal. The state should not sponsor the church for taxpayers' money. The church teaches modesty, but there is no modesty in this case at all. The Bible says "it's easier for a camel to go through the needle ears than for a rich man to go to heaven." And after this they teach people the morals?
I do not see any struggle. I see only the ignorant utterance of Patriarch Cyril, who is too far to teach someone morality or something else
Nathaniel Gray
then fuck off ortodoxy ? I would willingly give money each month to church till the end of my life, you know , if you are not even familiar with ortodox culture and people why do you make this thread? It's never too late to educate ,but you can't approach it like science book you know?
Oliver Baker
I am 90% sure that their mission to Eastern Europe (or more specific, Greater Moravia) was send from Rome. >What are they arguing for? In all honesty, fuck the Turks and all, but Russia had any sort of legitimate cause against the Turks only after they raped Crimea out of existence.
Brody Jenkins
>That's the difference from the pope. Pope who tries to mess with dogma automatically stops to be Pope. Don't bear false witness
Logan Powell
You can donate money to the church, I believe that people can do it. But the church should not be sponsored from the budget, as it is done in Russia. I've told.