The alt-right uses twin studies as evidence that genes contribute heavily to variation in traits like intelligence between the races.
But the problem is that twin studies can't control for the complex and unique gene-environment interactions that people of a lower socioeconomic status are more likely to face than those in the middle and upper classes. And of course blacks disproportionately live in low SES conditions.
Here's a 30 minute video where someone explains this better. I think alt-righters here should watch it: youtube.com/watch?v=wrzwRbYXYhY
Whoops wrong link, here's where he explains the complexities that the alt-right ignores: youtu.be/xa6UV7oE2nc
Jonathan Myers
bump you guys need to refute this stuff.
Alexander Hughes
>The alt-right uses twin studies as evidence not just the alt right. twin studies are the gold standard used to determine heritability and are used by everyone
Julian Harris
delete this
JF is not a fraud he's totally a legit scientist
Race realism is real REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Joseph Roberts
>post 30 minute video of a fucking twitch streamer >why isnt Sup Forums responding to my thread
It’s actually really funny watching destiny getting confused watching alt hyps video here. It’s like me missed his point about contrapoints using anecdotal evidence instead of AHs study. Then, he got confused that he brought up IQ even though the whole reason they were talking about this was the potential congnitive effect of lead exposure. No wonder he is afraid to debate AH, imagine how hard he would get destroyed
Zachary Bailey
What a fuckin clown world we live in where people actually trust this fuckin retard.
WHat are you on about? The twins get seperated in different families with different socioeconomics. That's the whole point to see if it's genes or the environment. And as the studies show it's all genes.
Your implication boils down to "environmental factors could be causing IQ differences, therefore genes don't contribute heavily to IQ". What a pathetic, sniveling claim that's clearly meant to reinforce your blue-pilled worldview.
Do you know what these twin studies are, you dumb fuck? They study twins who were separated at birth, and thus grew up in different environments/socioeconomic circumstances. Some of these twin studies have sample sizes of thousands of twins. And they've found that a significant part of intelligence, if not the vast majority, is attributable to DNA. Obviously you're a Destiny fan, so I'd completely expect you to disregard this reality.
Cameron Rivera
Yes, yes, it's all a giant conspiracy to keep the black man down. In USA, in Finland, in Israel and in every country on earth. Even in their own countries. Not only does everyone keep them down, but we keep making up lies about how their situation is their own fault. Man, non-blacks are just the worst.
Levi Jackson
I literallty cannot even stand listening to destiny for longer than 50 seconds
Cameron Butler
kill yourself shill rat
Hudson Perez
Isn't this that midget that fucks kids?
Lucas Bennett
Isn't this the manlet that wants "ethical child porn"?
Ryan Nguyen
>all these white knights defending a half-shark mutt Those who speak against Destiny are by default on team Venti. Either with or against us. He is off a perfectly normal height. Lies about him being short is a psyop by the alt-right
Wow, you just proved my point lol. Look at how uncomfortable and insecure he looks. I'd rather have the Asian girl in my ethnostate than this weakling.
Christian Williams
not all asians are short, the worlds tallest atm is a chink iirc
>can't control for the complex and unique gene-environment interactions that people of a lower socioeconomic status are more likely to face than those in the middle and upper classes Is that why the richest Blacks score lower on the SAT's (which is analogous to IQ) than the poorest Whites?
Same here. I have no problem listening to people I disagree with but its his cuntish, arrogant, insufferable demeanour which makes me want to punch the screen after 10 seconds of listening to that rat spew his sophistry.
>Look at how uncomfortable and insecure he looks. You mean how uncomfortable and insecure you feel looking at him right? Because you know he's more powerful than you. Hammerheads are sharks and not whites. They are not welcome in the ethnostate.
>the worlds tallest atm is a chink this doesn't disprove the majority of short chinks, nor that destiny is no taller than most chinks
Alexander Diaz
I think he means his ethnostate. That's probably why he said "ethnostate". Just a hunch.
Aaron Moore
>post simple one word bait article >thread gets 200 replies without anyone even reading the article
reddit is bad, but Sup Forums isn't that great either. if anything, openRI is a better political forum that contributes to both conservative and liberal ideals
Colton Sanders
What about the Minnesota trans-racial adoption study? That's the most cited one around here.
Brody Gutierrez
>Hammerheads are sharks and not whites. They are not welcome in the ethnostate. It'd be a massive waste of resources to just throw her away. Aryan babies NEED milk.
Leo Cook
It is public knowledge that destiny is perfectly normal height, anything else is a fake news lie
No we don't. He's a doxxing piece of shit, he doesn't get an opinion, or an audience.
David Turner
genes are entirely responsible for intelligence. we should embrace it and utilize it to improve all races via sperm donation eugenics.
Bentley Gray
So gene activation could explain the differences in racial iq? Cool, I have no problem with that, infact I somewhat believe that myself. You know this has nothing to do with ethnonationalism though?
Jason Thompson
His basement is the closest thing to an ethnostate he'll get. I assumed he meant he would rather have a chinese girl in than a guy.
Nolan Bell
>genes are entirely responsible for intelligence. That's fucking racist. Everyone knows that gorillas could function perfectly well in a modern society, if we stopped oppressing them. If we only increased funding of education in jungles, we could tap into this invaluable intellectual resource.
Asher Flores
You provoked a debate so you could defend a fucking misshapen twitch streamer in an attempt to give him relevance. You are sub-neet.
>Destiny is irrelevant >that's why he's mentioned in literally every alt right stream and you faggots are working 24/7 to try to get him banned from every website
If this whole thread weren't a bait, it would have had some arguments. Although, maybe not, since this is pretty much exactly how political discussion looks on reddit. Just insults, zero actual points.
>But the problem is that twin studies can't control for the complex and unique gene-environment interactions that people of a lower socioeconomic status are more likely to face than those in the middle and upper classes. And of course blacks disproportionately live in low SES conditions.
A study with n=300k failed to find any gene x ses interaction
You've been pushed back so far from: "There is no such thing as race" "Ok, races exist, but it's all socio-economic" Ok, it's partially genetic but it's 80% environmental"
Just fucking give up already. Niggers aren't stupid because they are poor, they are poor because they are stupid. They can't defer satisfaction.
Jacob Murphy
>he's debated almost every prominent far right youtuber No he has not. He's debated with a few meme "right-wingers" and even some of them got the upper-hand, but at the point desTiny starts engaging in petty arguments over semantics and playing dumb so he can stifle the debate.
Isaac Sanchez
You think that one French guy could take Destiny to task on genetics?
Grayson Morris
You guys are fucking cowards. The day of rope for you is nigh.
"But the problem is that twin studies can't control for the complex and unique gene-environment interactions that people of a lower socioeconomic status are more likely to face than those in the middle and upper classes. And of course blacks disproportionately live in low SES conditions." That is a lie. The entire point of twin studies is to study people raised by the same parents. If they are raised by the same parents, then they are by definition the same SES. We know that intelligence is at least partly genetic. nature.com/articles/nrg.2017.104
Thomas Richardson
Could you repeat your argument? I must have missed it. I will treat all other messages as bait, but I will respond to actual arguments.
Why don't you also tell him Santa is fake you terrorist?
Mason Kelly
>The entire point of twin studies is to study people raised by the same parents. Huh?
Adrian Cook
kek Is that meme supposed to sound like the Talking Heads?
Jeremiah Moore
More like altfaggot. >muh the jews did this >fall for their degeneracy
Isaiah Gomez
Isn't it obvious?
Ethan Gray
>A study with n=300k failed to find any gene x ses interaction >Written by Stephen Hsu Whelp, now I know all I need to dismiss this. You do realize Hsu is a notorious racist right?
Jaxon Nguyen
No. JF isn't very familiar with quantitative genetics. It is not his field and it involves a lot of statistics that he'd probably need to read up on to understand.
Henry Roberts
Why does he keep trying to hide his flabby stomach when the asian qt is around?
Angel Green
View park is in LA so of course is gonna have a higher crime rate than some town in the middle nowhere.
Camden Rodriguez
He wasn't even the one who conducted the study, but whatever. I can't tell if you're genuinely well-poisoning or just trolling.
