Can someone explain what's actually wrong with the left is proposing?
Why do you get so mad about the left wanting to diversify the work environment?
Why do you hate affirmative action?
What's wrong with socialism?
What's wrong with LGBT rights?
What's wrong with treating everyone like a human being?
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>Why do you hate affirmative action?
Makes it impossible to trust a woman pilot or a black surgeon.
>What's wrong with treating everyone like a human being?
welfare. without welfare, even poor families would at least TRY to care for their kids, but these days it's all up to the government. You're basically only breeding on their behalf, not even willing to pass down skills and culture.
As for gay rights, narcissists kinda don't deserve rights. and all the other gays (including me if you are one of those leftists who actually believe in bisexuals and don't just insult me constantly) are happy with the rights they have.
>What's wrong with socialism?
The part where I give me property rights to Jewish people.
>without welfare, even poor families would at least TRY to care for their kids
Based on what evidence?
Okay I see what you're doing. SAGE
>Makes it impossible to trust a woman pilot or a black surgeon.
You realize they still had to pass med school, right?
>are happy with the rights they have.
Im not so sure the transgender people who are still not protected under the law would agree with you.
Basic human nature.
No they didn't they had to pass "tick the box" med school which is totally different. As an abbo I am well-aware of the problems caused by affirmative action.
transgender people are over-protected under the law. in a true democracy we would murder them all.
based on the fact that poor kids are free for poor people and if you make the cost more expensive, then the product will be considered in a more careful light
Lurk here longer
>Why do you get so mad about the left wanting to diversify the work environment?
The bell curve
>Why do you hate affirmative action?
The bell curve
>What's wrong with socialism?
Nothing as long as it nationalistic and only provides simple necessities such as health, roads, etc
>What's wrong with LGBT rights?
Nothing but it bleeds into pedos ect
>What's wrong with treating everyone like a human being?
The bell curve
pic related
>checks news about muslim rape gangs being hidden from the UK public by leftist traitors
Gee, I wonder what the problem is?
KYS you fucking retard
America for European Americns, and nobody else.
Niggers and spics are dead weight to our system and the Jews fuel ethnic tension so we make no progress in the class war.
>Why do you get so mad about the left wanting to diversify the work environment?
Because minorities usually bitch and complain about everything including their feelings.
t. minority
>Why do you hate affirmative action?
See above. Fuck your feelings.
>What's wrong with socialism?
See above
>What's wrong with LGBT rights?
Degenerate.
>What's wrong with treating everyone like a human being?
You have to earn respect. You don't deserve anything from me.
bait but ill bite
1.)diversity qoutas are racist toward whites and oritentals,niggers want the best jobs handed to them just cause there isnt enough blacks its anti meritocratic
2.)affirmative action is racist,it implies a black brain cant compete in the market so they need a mario blue shell to cuck whites oritentals and jews who are in 1st.
3.)i like the NHS and the DWP but full blown socialism is evil.
4.)nothing,but when we said its ok to come out of the closet that didnt mean run out the bedroom down the stairs and into the street and then our kids schools shouting about dicks in the ass is cool
4.)respect is earned
>Why do you get so mad about the left wanting to diversify the work environment?
what about someone's race/genitals/etc makes them more qualified than anybody else?
>Why do you hate affirmative action?
see above
>What's wrong with socialism?
about 100 million dead bodies in just 100 years
>What's wrong with LGBT rights?
nothing. what's wrong is pushing that shit on children
>What's wrong with treating everyone like a human being?
nothing. that's what I've been doing
There's nothing wrong with GLBT people etc or treating everyone like a human being. Socialism has a lot of good points and is somewhat inevitable.
The issue with the mainstream left now is that it's turned against free speech, patriotism/national unity, and the working class.
>diversity
Because diversity is a code word for asking whites to kill themselves, to let their countries be invaded by violent negroes and muslim degenerates who have no place in our society.
>affirmative action
Because it is anti-meritocratic. Niggers with scores several tens of percentiles below whites or asians can get into the top schools just because they are niggers.
>socialism
Gigantic economic failure, wherever it goes. Venezuela, France, Sweden, Canada are all fine examples of this point. Plus it incentivizes anti-white sentiment and the two above policies
>LGBT rights
You have every right to be a faggot in my eyes. You have no right, however, to parade around with your dick hanging out in those completely degenerate gay-pride parades, where men fuck one another in the middle of public space.
>treating everyone like a human being
Because you'll find yourself treating them like human beings, while they treat you like Kuffars, Goyim or Kracka (depending on the flavor of invader we are talking about here, Muslim, Jew or Nigger, respectively)
>what about someone's race/genitals/etc makes them more qualified than anybody else?
ask that to the people who put them in a disadvantaged position in the first place.
>see above
see above
>about 100 million dead bodies in just 100 years
capitalism kills millions a year through starvation and lack of medical care.
>nothing. what's wrong is pushing that shit on children
teaching children that it's ok to be LGBT is wrong?
>nothing. that's what I've been doing
you want to dehumanize people who aren't straight white males.
>The issue with the mainstream left now is that it's turned against free speech, patriotism/national unity, and the working class.
CNN is not the true left.
Nice slide thread.
A diverse workplace isn't so bad, but like the Google lawsuit shows, it's only shallow visual diversity that the left desires. On top of that, like most leftist games, the slippery slope "fallacy" ends up actually being correct, because they're never satisfied. Look at leftists yelling at white feminists and male allies for evidence of that. There's no winning so there's no reason to play the game.
Affirmative action seems like it could work, to get low class people into a middle class situation, but minorities aren't the only low class people, and just like the workplace, universities are only interested in shallow visual diversity. Look at Asians and Indians doing extremely well to understand that affirmative action isn't going to solve anything--having parents who give a shot is the answer, and it's difficult to legislate that. (Although legislation discouraging this is rampant)
Socialism is wrong because it leads to communism, and communism is bad because it increases the wage cap. In communism you have an ultra ultra elite who control everything, and then everybody else who have no social/financial mobility. It also leads to state-controlled media, gulags, etc. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and so forth.
Some social programs can have benefit, but every social program is run by ideological cunts who want more socialism, more communism, less actual working efficiency. It's a disease really, and if you want some safety net but not full communism, then just call it "some safety net". Calling it socialism just means you want communism.
LGB's have all the rights they want and more. T's have nothing to do with the first three and just joined cause they used to all be freaks and rallied together. The only T rights that anyone cares about is bathrooms, and that's an overblown non-issue. If you pass, nobody will care. If you don't, well then you have bigger problems than bathrooms. Children's hormone therapy is child abuse...
More coming
>What's wrong with socialism?
Honestly don't give a shit about most of the things you said, but socialism is cancer and therefore you need to gtfo
>Capitalism kills
Oh, where are the gulags user?
What do call it when you produce enough food to every year to feed everyone, yet almost a billion people every year go hungry?
That's not a fucking gulag, why aren't their parents hunting down a fucking gazelle to feed those starving nigger cubs? why should I give a shit if their dad and mom don't?
also, how the fuck did capitalism do this?
beating a dead horse
>That's not a fucking gulag, why aren't their parents hunting down a fucking gazelle to feed those starving nigger cubs? why should I give a shit if their dad and mom don't?
Hard to hunt a gazelle when they're being bred to extinction and they have to work 10 hours a day to make barely a living wage, if they're even alive in the first place.
>also, how the fuck did capitalism do this?
We have the capability to feed the entire world. We produce so much food we have to throw away extra food, so there isn't inflation.
when you have an economic system based solely on profit instead of human flourishing, you end up with people dying because they can turn a profit.
answer the question. Why is it in a world where have the technology to feed everyone are we not doing it?
Its a trick to destroy your nation so jews rule this planet forever.
If you consider children's hormone therapy a T "right" then you're a freak. But also it doesn't really fit into the definition of a right. You have no right to be accepted as a genderless weirdo or a bearded lady, and pumping your clueless kid full of insane drugs so that they fit their confused little identity isn't going to change that fact. Let your kid be a confused weird kid. Emos, goths, punks, dramafags, etc. can all become normal members of society, but not if politicians and the TV are convincing them 24/7 that they're brave for fighting the system, and that "normal people" are the REAL FREAKS. And definitely not if they're pumped full of drugs. Let kids grow up and learn.
Everybody IS a human being. Human beings are treated like shit a lot of the time. Your idea that the right looks at everyone as subhuman and the left only sees equality is false. The idea of being "colorblind" is actually mocked by the left now. Nobody thinks everybody is equal. It's a childish pie-in-the-sky fantasy. Nepotism and in-group preference is the way the world always has and always will work. This applies to the left and the right both. Good luck getting a job at a non-profit if you're a Trump voter. And I'm not complaining about that. That's the way the world works, and in fact, because we have anti-discrimination laws working for minorities, women, and LGBTs, the law actually favors all those people. There's plenty of left-leanimg orgs on the coasts, and if you fit those demographics, you can get jobs there. But once again, I'll mention that the Left is never satisfied, and they actually want to destroy anyone who doesn't march to their ideological beat.
I know OP is a shill who will never read this, but it was a pleasure to get these thoughts out. Hope somebody sees this.
What about the farmers under USSR who would have all the fruits of their labor taken to distribution centers? They weren't even allowed to pick up scraps that were left behind. that would have gotten them thrown in the gulag. There were woman who were killed for trying to feed their children under your fucked up system.
Meanwhile all I see when I see these skinny nogs is some irresponsibility
Why can't Africa feed itself? Why can't they farm for themselves?
>ask that to the people who put them in a disadvantaged position in the first place.
I could give a shit. discrimination is discrimination is discrimination, it's wrong no matter who it's happening to. fuck yourself.
>capitalism kills millions a year through starvation and lack of medical care.
you spelled "government intervention" wrong
>teaching children that it's ok to be LGBT is wrong?
no, teaching them that they, as children, should be making these kinds of life-altering decisions, is wrong. you dense motherfucker.
>you want to dehumanize people who aren't straight white males.
nice mindreading
>Why do you get so mad about the left wanting to diversify the work environment?
because it prioritizes token minorities over skill or talent
>Why do you hate affirmative action?
because it is, by definition, discriminatory
>What's wrong with socialism?
every attempt has resulted in authoritarianism and/or starvation
>What's wrong with LGBT rights?
why should lgbt have rights that non-lgbt don't? isn't that antithetical to the concept of rights?
>What's wrong with treating everyone like a human being?
you don't treat us like human beings
>What about the farmers under USSR who would have all the fruits of their labor taken to distribution centers? They weren't even allowed to pick up scraps that were left behind. that would have gotten them thrown in the gulag. There were woman who were killed for trying to feed their children under your fucked up system
that's the price of modernization. Russia went from the most backwards country in Europe to a superpower in less than 30 years.
>Meanwhile all I see when I see these skinny nogs is some irresponsibility
whose irresponsibility?
They aren't as industrialized.
>I could give a shit. discrimination is discrimination is discrimination, it's wrong no matter who it's happening to. fuck yourself.
"I know you've been oppressed for hundreds of years, but you gotta pick yourself up by your bootstraps!"
>you spelled "government intervention" wrong
how does government intervention make people starve?
>no, teaching them that they, as children, should be making these kinds of life-altering decisions, is wrong. you dense motherfucker.
The people advocating this stuff are liberals, I do not advocate this.
>Capacity to feed the world
The book Ishmael makes a good argument about this, that overpopulation is a product of food access. The third world is breeding like motherfuckers. If they stopped being overpopulated shitholes, people might be more inclined to help.
That's also besides the point though. We can't even fix our ghettos, how and why would we fix the third world? This is insane thinking. Every social program we have has no effect on the ghetto. You can argue that it's systematic oppression, etc., but the fact remains that the social programs are not fixing the problem. If every white nationalist, neo-nazi, KKK member, and pol user could throw in $1000 to guarantee that blacks acted like middle class whites and Asians, I think they would. But throwing money and resources at a problem doesn't fix anything, despite the Democrats best efforts.
the state gives you more money based on how many children you have. when the government is paying for you and your children's food and housing, what incentive do you even have to work? To make it worse, if they try to work, then they get less benefits. What's to stop them from just pumping out kids and leeching off the state with no incentive to work?
>whose irresponsibility?
Their parents, don't have kids if you can't feed them. and don't help a species that can't survive on it's own.
>They aren't as industrialized.
Bullshit, if the niggers would stop killing the white farmers in South Africa, maybe they'd have food to distribute.
>, don't have kids if you can't feed them.
we CAN feed them though
do any of the fucktards in this thred respond against actual left policy - like energy, environment, diplomacy, and real examples of socialism (instead the term used as a boogeyman)?
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They aren't my kids. And the food produced on my property doesn't belong to America. It belongs to me and my family.
The left's idea of socialism is government control, they don't know that is actually just authoritarianism.
Real socialism is workers owning the means of production, but that won't happen. under the corrupt version this lefty fag would implement my farm would belong to the state instead of myself. But even so, socialism in that way is still retarded, my farm hands don't deserve to have an equal cut of the profit. Some work harder than others.
Diversity is a weakness. Non-whites are racist against whites and have no principles l, they claim to be anti racist but they’re just anti white. Affirmative action is discrimination, you’d have to be a retard to even question it. Socialism cause deaths and destruction, you’d have to be a retard to question that as well. There’s no such thing as LGBT rights, what you want is special privileges for the mentally ill and most degenerate members of society. What does your last question even mean. Also you treat whites and men like second class citizens so what exactly are you complaining about
>And the food produced on my property doesn't belong to America. It belongs to me and my family.
You're a farmer?
No one trusts diversity hires.
I'm an engineer who also owns a farm. I'm not your fucking slave nigger. the fruits of my labor are mine.
>"I know you've been oppressed for hundreds of years, but you gotta pick yourself up by your bootstraps!"
oh right. Japanese Americans are soooo oppressed today after being sent to literal camps for their skin color. they live such poor, oppressed lives today.
>how does government intervention make people starve?
saved you the Google search
en.wikipedia.org
>The people advocating this stuff are liberals, I do not advocate this.
then why are you arguing with me?
>I'm not your fucking slave nigger. the fruits of my labor are mine.
So you plow your fields alone?
>forced diversity
equality of outcome is not good for any party involved
>affirmative action
when you start protesting the jews, i'll consider your position
>socialism
we're already damn near a socialist state as it is. more than half the budget is gibs of some form
>LGBT rights
have the same rights as everyone else. I, a straight man, can't marry a man either
>human being
start acting like one
>Doesn't know autonomous. tractors are a thing
>Give specifics nig
>Giving stupid people jobs because their race is too dumb to make it in sounds like a great idea.
>Yeah women and non-asian minorities should totally be given a headstart on better people who advance society
>Nothing, Marxism however is evil.
>Nothing, Gays naturally occur and are fine if they are traditional and hang out near the closet. Lesbians don't exist and transgenders need to be gassed or counseled.
>Nothing but treating people like they are equal is dumb AF
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>Why do you hate affirmative action?
Because it's the opposite of meritocracy. It's intentionally racist; picking people to be hired so that you hit some arbitrary quota of "color and gender" rather than merit. It's pandering at best, self-destructive at worst.
1. How are you going to transport all that food across the country. How much will it cost?
2. Who is paying for this food to be made with their supply and labor? What are they losing?
3. "Feeding" the hungry doesn't specify how much they are fed. Are we talking a single meal? a few days of meals? "Will they never go hungry ever again after you have fed them this single or few meals?
4. After being fed, what's stopping them from using this energy to have children that will also require meals?
There's nothing wrong with treating people like human beings. That's why we're against affirmative action. It dehumanizes the individual, valuing them solely on sex and race.
Read the Unabomber Manifesto
the left ultimate goal is to turn the world into a race mixed paradise of peace and love, but...
IT DOESNT WORK!
brazil is proof on it so kys
Do not reply to troll threads.
Sage if you must, and Report them.
W8 so you are saying transgender are not protected by the law?
As in not even human rights?
Holy shit I gotta grab some weapons and kill them before they are protected.
The law is the same for all fucko, those faggots want special treatment, why should they? No reason, in the future then zoophiles, pedophiles, necrophiles and rapist will be pardoned of their heinous crimes just because thats who they are?
Go hang yourself, please
>that's the price of modernization. Russia went from the most backwards country in Europe to a superpower in less than 30 years
because the USSR collapsed and they embraced capitalism, albeit reluctantly.
>whose irresponsibility?
the parents that had the kids in the first place. why the fuck would you have kids that you can't take care of? because they are dumb shits that can't understand the concept of planning ahead.
>They aren't as industrialized.
they used to be, then the whites left and they just neglected or scrapped the infrastructure that was left behind instead of maintaining and building from it.
>another muslim grooming gang been found out in Telford
>asking what's wrong with diversity
It's a mystery you faggot
>you want to dehumanize people who aren't straight white males.
That's nothing more than projection of your demonization of straight white males
>You realize they still had to pass med school, right?
News report: X Medical School Not Turning Out POC Surgeons - Is Racism to Blame?
How would they get that quota up to leftist-acceptabe levels, user?
fuck you, I'll talk about whatever I feel like
The left haha Nice Try
The right is always right
What's actually wrong with the left??
Look at the new world today and look at Vietnam after 43 years detroyed by Communist and Democracy
>Diversify work enviroment
The only thing that should matter in a job is that the job is done, and done right, anything else is bullshit. The best suited for the job should have it, not an average or mediocre worker just for their color or sexual preference. Thats just downright discrimination against normal people and forces contractors to hire just to fill a quota thats tottal bullshit and in some cases a waste of money.
No matter color gender or whatever, the thing that matters is that you do your fucking job
>whats wrong with socialism
Because it never works. It might work mixed with other political sistems but on its own it has always been a trainwreck
nothing wrong OP justt Sup Forums IQ is below average
>Fine with affirmative action for women. But affirmative for non-white races weakens the power and control of the European American. And when we lose power and numbers, we lose this country.
>Socialism is alright if it's all white. See Iceland.
>Normalizing the LGBT challenges the gender binary and makes us less reproductive
>Universal morality leaves you with a South Africa tier situation where the enemy locks you out and kills you slowly. Serve your volk first.
There's nothing necessarily wrong with the left. It just comes down to values: Traditional European vs Jewish values. The ideal European is prideful while the ideal Jew is meek. It may just be a matter of preference in the end. Anyways, this battle has been going on for thousands of years. We might even call it a symbiotic relationship at this point.
So you engineered and built the plows you use all by yourself?
we pay for the equipment and for the extra workers. we share our success with those that help us achieve it. that's how a fucking community works
John Deere builds autonomous tractors you fucktard. What point are you even trying to make? Without capitalism autonomous tractors would have never existed because you panzy ass commies would have prevented them from being invented and replacing workers.
>Can someone explain ...
no. if you could not figure these out for yourself you are retarded and would not understand the explanation and if you only pretend not to get it then you'll continue pretending.
>we pay for the equipment
who creates the equipment?
> What point are you even trying to make?
that all value is the product of labor. That you, as the owner of private property, exploit the surplus produced by your workers for personal gains.
>Without capitalism autonomous tractors would have never existed
Have I denied this? Marx said that socialism would come about as a result of the automation and technology produced by capitalism.
>who creates the equipment?
the workers that are paid for in the price of the equipment. do you not know what an economy is?
You're a waste of air.
That is not how it works son.
Burden of proof is on your proposal.
You will need very good arguments, because, so far, everything you propose has been proven to be toxic.
Except non marxist socialism in a white country with close borders.
And include race realism in your argument, because its a fact. Good luck.
>the workers that are paid
the workers are paid a percentage of the wealth they create in the form of a wage. The rest of the value they create is taken as profit by their boss, who does nothing.
organizing and training people to do a certain task, overseeing that they actually do that task, handling the legal and financial aspects of the production, etc. are just a few things that they do. do you not put any thought into what you say? are you completely oblivious to what the people around you actually do? pay attention to shit for once and look at how and why shit happens.
Based black fella.
I identity as a black fella too.
You can call me Bob.
Because communism is a superior ideology to nat socilaism.
>forced diversity is better than hiring based on quality of work
Anyone who thinks this is literally retarded and wants a handout
>organizing and training people to do a certain task,
So because he does this, he has a right to all of the fruits of the property?
>, handling the legal and financial aspects
which wouldn't exist in a socialist system
>do you not put any thought into what you say? are you completely oblivious to what the people around you actually do? pay attention to shit for once and look at how and why shit happens.
Of course the boss works, but what he contributes doesn't justify him keeping the super majority of profits and having absolute control over all the people who work for him.
>most of the fruits of his property
Fixed.
And yes.
>be boss
>do nothing
>get to keep all the money, with the exception of taxes, upkeep for equipment, and wages you pay your workers, who do all the work.
>Why do you get so mad
>Why do you hate
Wow, great arguments. You are clearly very open to discussion, and it would be worth my time to compose a serious reply.
>Black Bob
haaaaaahahaha! You live up the road from me
look at history and you'll have your answers.
the more types of "diversity" that is allowed, the worse a society becomes. the degradation of society over time is very slow and insidious, and destroys any amount of progress we ultimately obtain.
>What's wrong with treating everyone like a human being?
nothing. however, there are people in this world that legit will use you and do not care one ounce about you. these people are narcissists and don't care for progress or any higher goals other than what they want.
narcissists are a natural byproduct of a hedonistic and degrading society. the more we allow the slippery slope, the more people who have low morals will be allowed to have power, and will be celebrated because of it. social media further amps the Narcissist Supply and makes it worse.
if you haven't dealt with a narcissist yet, you will. it is a painful experience to go through when you realize these people completely lack empathy, are extremely resistant to therapy, and no matter what you do, you will not talk to them like "normal" people. their egos are fed with positive and negative emotional bonding. nothing you say works or will resonate with them. it's a losing battle no matter what.
this is what you all want by allowing an "anything goes" and "muh feelings" society. it should have failed a long time ago.
Almost a billion people that need freedom, capitalism, jobs, and money.
natural course of life. it is simply impossible to feed everyone no matter how hard we try.
>be commie
>do nothing
>get to appropriate all commodities from those who do all the work
>get typhoid because of serious medical labor shortage
Food and aid is being sent in huge quantities but in socialist paradises like Zimbabwe and other socialist leaning African countries, the food is getting redistributed to those more deserving sections of society (like the ruling party members), just like Robert Mugabe did.
wow, it's not like capitalism is what made them poor in the first place.
it actually is possible my guy. We produce so much food we have to throw away excess.
Why am I going to contribute to a system that robs people of the value they produce?