Does higher IQ skew men away from interest in women?

Does higher IQ skew men away from interest in women?

I'm not a virgin but I've also lost interest in associating with women because of their mechanistic, "what can you do for me" approach to romantic relationships. I can't shake the sense that only men experience romantic, committed, idealistic love for a romantic partner and women, in their histrionic, childlike nature only experience "desire" for what a man can provide punctuated by brief, thoughtless bursts of the abovementioned passion. A good woman's passion is reserved for her children and romantic love for her partner is discarded at a whim if she chances upon the perception that she can "do better" for her children. Whether or not this perception is accurate seems irrelevant.

Taking into account the differing IQ curves for men and women, and a man in the scarce extreme right of the IQ curve stands little to no chance of encountering a woman who understands him or values him in totality. This also presents the difficulty, should the high IQ male "settle" for a woman who is significantly closer to average than he is, of daily interaction with a person who can't seem to glean the foggiest sense of what goes on within the head and soul of the man.

The above points accounted for, pursuing women seems like more trouble than it's worth. Am I in the wrong to think this? Is the proper course of action to suck it up and deal with a woman in order to procreate?

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Interesting. Jordan Peterson thinks men with high IQ and conscientiousness will earn more, and thus attract women beneath their earning power since women mate across and up the dominance hierarchy. He says he’s worked with top female lawyers who struggle to find men because of this.

The book sexual utopia in power talks about how boys and girls used to be kept separate and brought together for things like dances. The whole idea of dating is modern. In the past, men didn’t have to deal with all that. They just focused on being productive members of society and a woman would be handed to them by that society.

And I suppose it's true that in the past men and women were not expected to understand eachother, maybe it's simply the case that a man who is in charge of his life doesn't worry about these things. To me (I'm around 145IQ I believe) this just seems like more trouble than it's worth. But I'm still young, a decision to cast off any desire to interact with women may very well do damage to me down the road and I might die lonely and disappointed in myself. If only millennial women weren't such odious termagants

worth mentioning that 140 seems to be well past the range where the female IQ curve flattens out completely in my studies, meaning that a man of this IQ stands next to no chance of meeting a women of similar capacity

Yes, the cost benefit analysis of women has gone downhill, they're just not worth it anymore.

It wasn't always like this though, but in today's female dominated society, it's just the way it is.

MGTOW

How does this bode for the human genome? If it takes a man of a certain intellectual capacity to make that cost-benefit analysis, will high IQ males simply stop mating and doom humanity to a dysgenic wasteland future?

I was around 160 when tested in middle school, but I really do feel smart. I think I have math dyslexia because I’ve struggling with simple things like counting coins or telling time. It’s weird.

Anyway, my relationships with women always peter out. I think I’m too strange, maybe. I’ve learned how to present myself normal, like dressing well, and have basic conversional skills. I do get depressed a lot, and really nervous. I think this is partly IQ and also because I was raised in a nightmare where my parents were very violent. It does your head in to be 5 years old and see some of things I saw.

I’d probably say I’m a 5.5 out of 10 in looks, but I’ve lesrned to dress really well. I work with college students, almost all girls. They flirt with me in ways that my peers have never done. I think they’re attracted to be what they see as a successful male. I’m also really nice to them, while the rest of our all female staff are either passive aggressive or annoying to them. If the students knew the true, they’d know my job might sound impressive to an 18 year old who has only worked at McDonald’s, but I don’t make much money. We can’t date students, but if I did, I think these girls that flirt with me would probably move on when they got tired of not having money. They will have jobs that pay better than me when they graduate probably.

I don’t know if my ramble is at all helpful. I don’t have time to edit it as I have to take a shower, but maybe there’s something interesting in there.

I meant to say I really DONT feel smart

Time to start sucking the dick dude.

I’ll add I knew a woman who was a feminist. This was many years ago before I knew what feminism really was. She never called herself one, but she quoted feminists and even grew her armpit hair out. I was really depressed, thirsty, and she was attractive. We got along. She had a bad relationship and said she never wanted a boyfriend or to get married. She turned guys away. We graduated college and I stopped hearing from her. A year later, she emailed me saying how depressed and lonely she was. She hated the real world and looking for a job. Then later, she emailed me saying she was marrying a guy after barely dating him, who is a pilot and has a good job. She gets to follow her passions while he makes the dough. She didn’t even take his last name, so I suspect she still thinks like a feminist but fails to realize she is only living the lifestyle she is because she relies on a man.

What I learned from this is I was an idiot to ever spend time on her. I suspect she had an above average IQ, but she was still blinded by her feminine emotions and driven by her femininity to find a Chad.

you mate across and down, bro. she mates across and up. you're thinking too much

fags are repulsive to me, I don't have particularly strong "muh dicck" drive anyway

LOL I think there will be a section of MGTOW that goes that way.

I don’t consider myself MGTOW, though.

They never gave me the number results, but I guess I was above 125-130.
My relationship with women is non existent, I am extremely oblivious to any hints and I struggle to find real interest.

I'm trying to stop masturbation and see if there is any effect. My libido is high but that's it.

>the reason I'm unable to attract a mate and have poor success with women is because I'm too smart for it

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>high IQ and conscientiousness will earn more, and thus attract women
How about no. People can't interact effectively more than 2 standard deviations apart. Women's ideal isn't some autist savant, it's a 115 IQ Chad with money and status.

I said I'm not a virgin, and the title literally says *interest* in women, not success with women. My point is that the things that are satisfying to me are so foreign to the realm of 99.99% of women as to make dealing with women seem pointless and unappealing.

The chance of having 145 IQ is so low that its safe to assume anyone who claims it on Sup Forums followed some unofficial bullshit test and is full of fucking shit

If you have 145 IQ youre not shitposting on Sup Forums, with that IQ comes a higher calling to be productive because your IQ opens you up to issues and their solutions you otherwise wouldnt see or be able to solve

The fact that you have discalculi means that youre not 160 because one of the requirements of a high IQ is problem solving, especially mathematical, so your test from school was probably a shit test that was edited for the sake of preventing exclusion which makes normal or slightly intelligent people seem like the new Einsteins

The human psyche is smarter then you believe, if you have a feeling youre not as smart as the test claims you are then thats probably based off the fact that your subconciousness KNOWS youre not that smart, granted 160 is an extremity

You are to do well by relying on your own judgment then that of outdated, inclusively edited tests

Women are human being while men are human doings. Once you view women as what they are (inferior men with boobs) you realize that the time you spend talking with children is not worth the struggle.

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>The time you spend talking to children is not worth your time
This is how we got to the point of millenials being identity commies, because the bad side of humanity did see value in talking to kids

This German approach to life is reprehensible

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I hate how women socialise and hate how that is taken to be the standard by which all socialisation is judged. No, you're not nicer than men. You're just weaker.

>poorly realized people with high IQ don't exist
This is a retarded fallacy, constantly trumpeted on Sup Forums by materialists who cannot conceive of people with less material striving than themselves. I was in accelerated classes in my early schooling and constantly tested from 3rd grade into highschool. IQ does not necessarily confer ambition and you could have gathered as much about me from the info included in OP, that I don't have any desire to play status games with women or to strive to reproduce at a cost to my own interests

Lies. You just can't have an intelligent conversation about matters you're knowledgeable in without becoming bored. Talking to yourself isn't fun.
High IQ is no excuse for bad social skills, bad hygiene, poor appearance. You'd think if you were so smart you'd attempt to work on areas you were weak in. If that was your desire. At least you can self identify. You can be masculine.
Also am intelligent and suffer from depression. Am yet to meet that intellectual equal but have been in relationships with people who are above average and average. It depends on their temperment whether it is tolerable on the intellectual level. There is more to personality than IQ and much more to do with emotional intelligence, that I personally lack.
On a mobile device but you can understand my point. Stop making excuses. If you are near genius levels or are one, you may never find an equal.

also, 145IQ is not even 1/800 in a 100IQ average nation. If you don't think that 1/800 people can possibly be bored enough to browse Sup Forums that's a perception error on your part.
Additionally, IQ DOES confer wariness of potential negative outcomes in direct proportion to otherwise unavailable capacity for problem solving. The reality is not as simple as you're making it out to be

Just because you're not a virgin that doesn't make you successful with women.

Why are you expecting women to be men? Women usually are not inclined to enjoy hobbies and niche pursuits because there is no biological advantage to do so

Men who explore new disciplines or specialize on a unique set of skills evolutionarily are more likely to be successful (wealthy) or discover some new technique to survive therefore men are more likely to have unique interests

Women offer human companionship, pleasure, any supporting role, can take care of the home and other tasks that you don't want to do, and provide the possibility of making children, which is your biological purpose. Don't you want children you can shape to be like you or better, to leave a mark on the world, and someone who will take care and raise them with you, then take care of you when you're older and have a positive impact on this planet? Do you think you'll feel the same way when you become 40, old and decrepit, start losing all your friends and family, and you don't have your own family to spend the rest of your life with? Don't you want a cute girl to cuddle with?

MGTOW is just a trick to get above-average IQ beta males not to reproduce. You can overintellectualize everything but at the end of the day, there is nothing smart about taking yourself out of the genepool and not having the pleasure of getting laid as if your ancestors going back thousands of years somehow expected women to have the same interests or mindset as them. Unless you think your genes won't contribute anything?

Sex is a marketplace, if you can't find a woman who meets your standards then maybe your standards are unreasonable and your sexual market value isn't high as you thought. Keep looking.

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>I was around 160 when tested in middle school, but I really do feel smart.
IQ tests aren't weighted properly for testing children. The score is based on the "average" intelligence for your age.

A 15 year old high school student with exactly the same amount of knowledge and smarts as an average 21 year old throws dramatically different results. The You can turn in two copies of the same test, but the 15 year old has an IQ of 140. The 21 year old has an IQ of 100. We're conditioned by jews to think the 15 year old is some sort of hypergenious, when in reality all that has happened was he's not a Public Edjewcated moron. It's amazingly simple for any child with any homeschooling or self-schooling to appear to be a MENSA candidate in high school because everyone else is so fucking dumb.

The jew uses these tests to identify "bad goyim" and put them into "special classes" so what they learn can be carefully controlled.

That same hypothetical 15 year old, assuming he gets no 'smarter' (ie slacks off, accepts that he's already smarter than all of his idiot peers...) his IQ steadily drops as he ages till he's just another 100IQ adult.

IQ is also fucking meaningless as a tool to compare generation to generation because the tests are completely redone to adjust the 100-point every 7-10 years or so. If everyone gets fucking stupid, fucking stupid is the new normal, thus the weighted average intelligence slides down... yet still remains numerically a 100. A 100IQ today and a 100IQ fifty years ago are vastly different things.

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its such a shame that high iq people dont have children, meanwhile low iq people reproduce like rabbits....

if anyone here on pol consider themself to have high iq please al least try to have children.

you got the intelligence to realise how important this is, use that intelligence and try to figure it out, try to solve it instead of just complaining.

I guarantee you that your IQ isn’t over 110. This goes for most of pol too. You guys aren’t special. Most of you claim to be borderline geniuses on par with Einstein when you found high school algebra challenging lol

That’s not true. My test was mathematical. It was multiple choice and I could figure out the math problems through deduction. For example, if one side was one length, I reasoned the answer had to be over 45, and then there’d only be one option over 45.

There are also ravens tests that measure IQ roughly the same as the other tests, but mine wasn’t like that.

>ignores what I said to spout irrelevant, rehashed counterMGTOW arguments

>"I guarantee that you're not more intelligent than 3/4 people"
>thinking that this is some braggadocios absurd claim to make

I didn’t take the test through school. I purchase it myself outside of school. I can’t remember what the test was but it was a legimate test, not a fake online test. I don’t remember if they asked my age. I forgot the name of the test and actually wanted to forget the whole thing because I was worried it meant I was a freak.

Basically, I have an unusual, rare artistic talent since I was small. That’s where my intelligence lies.

I find a lot of smart people posting on here who are well above average and have a lot of good to say.
Then there's the low intellect normies who ruin it for everyone.

It's tough to rate intelligence on math when someone may have not learned the basics, or learned them very well, thus hindering there ability to learn. Ambition and intelligence are not the same thing. Especially in the public school systems.

IQ = phrenology

A 15 year old with the average intelligence of a 17 year old has a 113. You're talking slightly above sub-retard for a 110 score. Such genius. Wow.
>he doesn't understand how the IQ scale even works
>insults the intelligence of others

Do you like your mother? What about your father?

What if they never got together and you weren't born because your mom thought men were evil rapists and your dad thought women weren't worth dealing with? Would you like that better?

OP, go to a place where women work and make minimum wage. Preferably find one not going to college, or going to college for something she hates. You’ll probably have to ask a ton of them out, but eventually one will say yes if you look decent.

That’s your best bet. She’ll be attracted to you because you make a lot more than her. Beyond that, as long as your values aren’t totally off it might work.

I think a lot of Sup Forums would say yes...

Yes you're right user, but you need to have children to continue the high IQ lineage.
You need to choose a loyal woman -with a high IQ if you can-. Sadly it will be impossible to find a "soulmate", one who shares what's happening in your head. Discard that. You need to find a woman who admire you because you're smart (make her laugh) and because you can provide good money. Make 4 high IQ children with her.

DON'T EVER BE HIS "PARTNER" or "FRIEND" or SHOW WEAKNESS. You're her lover, husband and provider.

questions: What's you IQ?
How old are you (aprox)?

>Ambition and intelligence are not the same thing. Especially in the public school systems.
This is true, I was reading at a college level in 5th grade because of natural aptitude and encouragement to read from my parents, but neither of my parents had any

I don't really like my mother, she is basically a soulless husk of a woman with no motherly drive at all who probably wishes she never had her children. My dad was a broken man who soldiered through it and raised us despite the ruination she brought about. My lack of desire to deal with women likely stems from being a witness to that my entire childhood and young adult life, but the argument of "aren't you glad to be alive" doesn't seem to carry weight to me because potential child aren't actual children of mine and thus cannot be disappointed that they weren't created.

yes, it's pretty much proven

>interest in women

whoops- neither of my parents had any mathematical skill whatsoever so I was basically left to foster my own childish distaste for mathematics from an early age. Public schools can't possibly change the way they teach to suit every student, and by the time you've fallen behind there isn't much to be done about it without strong motivation to improve, which I never really had. As an adult I can understand mathematical concepts pretty easily I just don't have the base of knowledge from practice

Fantastic user. Your post is so good that you've redeemed leafs for me. At least for a full week.
Very smart.
You might consider using a meme flag.

I guess I’m saying fine an attractive woman who feels that she needs you, and that’s as far as you will get.

One of my mistakes in life was thinking women wanted me to be their friend.

IQ median 100 has been getting better not worst. (flynn effect). But in the last years the flynn effect has reached a plateau.
IQ is a highly useful tool.

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MGTOW is the only course

>because of their mechanistic, "what can you do for me" approach to romantic relationships
In all my relationships I've never experienced this at all. Where are you meeting these people? I bet you'd find better women in less intense contexts (i.e not the night club). I am attractive though, so maybe my anecdote is very biased.

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The situation is dire between men and women however it isn't as bad as you believe. Also many men hate women because they hate themselves. The most r9k mgtow woman hater will completely change his tune if a woman shows interest in him. I've seen it happen repeatedly.

Yes, I understand the moral imperative of reproduction as a high IQ person in this day and age. And to top it off, I'm a blonde/blue eyes white male millenial living in Los Angeles, so by all measure it is an actual imperative that I reproduce for the sake of the human race. But I honestly feel like I've had sex with enough women and that I could go a long time without putting any energy whatsoever into interacting with another women. Conversations with millenial women are a drain on my psychological wellbeing because I'm pretty blackpilled and resentful toward 99/100 people for their inadequacies.

Kek

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People who call themselves high IQ, usually are not in my experience

based sexual utopia book poster, I completely agree with this
sexuality was never something frivolous left at the whim of women as is today

Jesus this thread.
being 'skewed away from interest in women' isn't sign of a high IQ, its a sign of massive levels of confusion in your brain.
>suck it up and deal with a woman in order to procreate?
Can't you even imagine the possibility of meeting a good woman you genuinely like and raising a family together? Are you really that depressed?

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>Conversations with millenial women are a drain on my psychological
Talk straight to her. You want a wife to have children. You're in control, you're not weak nor "madly in love" with her. You're a good provider.

You'll have 9 rejections and finally one woman who's attracted to you and smart enough to recognize a good deal. As long as you lead the family and provide, she'll be with you.

Important. Never go full autistic. You'll have 99 rejections and 1 match. Please try to be in control, but human.

You could consider donating your sperm to a sperm bank, if you do find yourself morally obligated to procreate from purely a genetic standpoint.
Men can reproduce well after women. Your clock isn't ticking.

>Women offer human companionship, pleasure, any supporting role, can take care of the home and other tasks that you don't want to do
I can get the same for less money by hiring a maid/butler and adopting a dog. All of this without being accused of domestic abuse or getting raped in divorce court.

Interesting points. Imma think about it
Also, you should've:
>inb4 gay gfless cuck soynumale faggot

Yes, OP, you are correct. I'm in the 96th percentile. I find the vast majority of people incredibly boring... but, I know enough men who are entertaining enough for me to enjoy an evening of bantz with. Women, on the other hand, well, in my entire life I've only met about two women who aren't dreadfully boring. One of them is in the 98th percentile and the other is probably around my level of intelligence. Both are ugly hamplanets, though, which is probably just as well as it makes it easy for me to be platonic friends with them.

>40
>old and decrepit
You sure are retarded, aren't you?

Firstly, the skew between men and women isn't that large as your chart suggests, it looks ridiculous.

>Taking into account the differing IQ curves for men and women, and a man in the scarce extreme right of the IQ curve stands little to no chance of encountering a woman who understands him or values him in totality
It is true that the very few men with an extremely high IQ will have trouble to find a women with the same IQ, but that doesn't mean all that much.
Not everything in your life is IQ and if you are above above a certain threshold it matters less and less in your everyday life.

>of daily interaction with a person who can't seem to glean the foggiest sense of what goes on within the head and soul of the man.
That is just ridiculous, look at a proper curve comparing the IQ's, if your IQ is above 110 you can function very well in society, have a look at what the average IQ in academia is.
Your entire posts makes me think this is nothing you need to worry about.

>The above points accounted for, pursuing women seems like more trouble than it's worth
No.

> I can't shake the sense that only men experience romantic, committed, idealistic love for a romantic partner and women, in their histrionic, childlike nature only experience "desire" for what a man can provide punctuated by brief, thoughtless bursts of the abovementioned passion.
This is a byproduct of modern culture, nothing inherent to "females" in general.
The same is true for males as well, you are an outlyer, far from the average. The "normal male" is just as romantic as the "normal female".

I remember this episode of Black Mirror that I found depressing af for other reasons than normies are obviously encouraged too. (Hang the DJ). I don't even mean the racemixing, for once they've cast a mulatto that was actually mildly attractive instead of casting a hideous gorilla than having actors pretend she's 10/10. But it's the story itself which is textbook propaganda for what a modern day relationship should be like. Before a couple can "settle down", the female has to ride miles of Chad dick while the beta listens to her talk about it and smiles and nods. The beta himself gets to date only 1 other woman who is ugly and has a comically horrible personality and is supposed to make him feel super grateful about ending up with a whore who has taken an entire army of Chad dick. That's literally the only requirement for roasties there, don't be cartoonishly horrible and you're immediately a great catch for any beta out there.

Oldfag detected. Sry m8, 40 is old. It's only a decade away from a bunch of serious health issues setting in.

>Does higher IQ skew men away from interest in women?

No, mossad gangstalks high IQ goyim to prevent them from breeding.

"Herd management" or something of the like.

Hey man,

Think about it this way. You are capable of idealistic romantic love. If women cannot be... that doesn’t mean you should reject your instinct - and what fullfills you. I love my wife, and I know she doesn’t love me the same way I love her. I know that she is capable of leaving our family - whereas I am not. But I also know that if I am focused on being the best husband and father I can be - I need not worry about her finding a better deal. I strive to be the be the best. That is how I won her in college from the other suitors, that is how I kept her, that is why she carried MY children. I won. And I’m going to keep winning.

It really isn’t much different elsewhere in the animal kingdom. Should I hate her for being a woman? Nope, I like women. I’m not going to reject women because they lack some of the positive characteristics I’d prefer.

She cheated on me early in our relationship, when I went through a period of weakness. Depression. Teenage bullshit. I was less than an ideal mate, and I got a less than ideal outcome. We worked through it. I have no doubt she’d do it again someday if I was not an ideal mate. I could hate her, and just be a gay the rest of my life...but that’s not for me. I love having sex. I love sharing my life with her. And I love raising our children together. I’m happier with her.

Idk man. That just, like, my opinion.