Why isn't Poland joining Eurozone? Aren't they obliged to???

Why isn't Poland joining Eurozone? Aren't they obliged to???

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>earning ~350€ a month
>everything still costs like we're earning at least twice as much

yeah no

Ge-No-Cide

Nobody is obliged to join the Eurozone, just as nobody is obliged to take any refugees. People make up shit all the time, but it isn’t true.

Didn't even know they're not in the eurozone

Nobody is forced to and I would recommend that Poland stays out.
The Euro was simply invented to delete all the other currencies.
Portugal had one of the strongest currencies in Europe (Escudo) and after we joined no only the EU but also the Eurozone, everything went to shit.

There's an ultimatum set by Bruxelles. All memberstates of the EU should have adopted the Euro as currency by 2022.

Obliged?

We don't meet the monetary/fiscal criteria for joining, otherwise we would have already.

Neither did Germany and France when it all started.

Po-Lish-Dea-Th-Ca-mps

Bullshit. Not a single country will adopt the Euro by 2022. One characteristic of an ultimatum is that something happens if demands aren’t fulfilled. By 2030, Poland will still not be in the Euro.

France and Germany invented the euro, the rules didn't apply to them.
You cannot not join the club you created.

>This is somehow logical.

No and that's why they are growing so much.
Euro is shit

Ge-No-Cide

It's too strong 'a currency for most EU nations.

Shut up you lazy piece of shit

Pol-acks-are-Anti-sem-itic-jew-kil-lers
You-owe-is-rael-shek-els

It's an automatic loss of buying power.
When it kicked in here in 2001, all the prices doubled. Food, gas, rents and then the obvious happened, KABOOM in 2011

It's Realpolitik.

Don't you have some Boers to expropriate and kill?

I am a boer, im just drunk and bored , there arent any good threads, im basically just poking people , i'll be on my way. Btw, keep it up Poland, don't take shit from those kikes. We all support you

ZŁOTY ALBO SMIERĆ!

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Wow. According to a guy on youtube by the name of spainspeaks the prices in Portugal are higher than prices in Spain, even though you have lower wages.

There is one positive of the Euro, and that is less inflation. The krone here has a lot of inflation. Like 2,5% a year type of inflation. Finally our central bank has targeted that to 2% now, as they should've from the beginning. In fact they shouldn't have targeted any inflation, but at least we're heading in the right direction.

Price increases in Norway are a norm. A bottle of coke (0,5 L) will cost 22 one year, then the next year it'll rise to 23, then 24, then 25 and on and on. It's very annoying. Thankfully our wages and incomes are rising accordingly. But it's just ridiculous.

Sorry. It turned it into a big rant, didn't I.

When shit hits the fan and you need some weapons, or want to emigrate here (we have lots of farmland) polska welcomes you

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> PIGS
> managing a currency

yeah lol no but at least you moor rapebabies should have to right to fuck your own shit up in a manner of your own choosing

The Polish are some of the greatest people in the world, I want to move there, in better times I would. But my people need me so my fate is here. I wish you all the best, God be with you.

some inflation is good for the economy, it means the economy is growing, wages are rising, etc. wage gains are a leading indicator of inflation, generally means companies are flush with money and the economy is good so they pay more to keep employees. 2.5% is healthy inflation.

and this is another reason we will keep our złoty. look at these items and guess how much they cost.

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>boer
>bored

ran out of niggers to lynch already? sounds like you are just lazy

>look at these items and guess how much they cost.

id say around 2 to 3 blowjobs behind the gas station

it's one in the mornig and I have a belly full f beer, give me a break

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V4 will help with arms. But you have to kill all the niggers. Good thing Whites have 100:1 kill ratios vs africans, I talked to a Rhodesian intelligence guy (older guy, but fought in the war) and he told me crazy fucking stories about how niggers would just run into machine gun nests single formation forgetting to shoot their guns etc. He said he killed a few hundred himself without ever being hit. Crazy shit.

Liar.
ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en
>All EU Member States , except Denmark and the United Kingdom, are required to adopt the euro and join the euro area. To do this they must meet certain conditions known as 'convergence criteria'.
Although the date is not specified.
>The Treaty does not specify a particular timetable for joining the euro area, but leaves it to Member States to develop their own strategies for meeting the condition for euro adoption. Seven of the 13 Member States who joined the EU since 2004 have already joined the euro area, most recently Lithuania on 1 January 2015.

>Nobody is forced to
WRONG >Obliged?
Yes, obliged. >We don't meet the monetary/fiscal criteria for joining
Well, you have to meet them one way or another.

How much is that worth in zloty? I'm trying to work out how much it'd be worth in rands? yes I can't sleep.
Blowjobs from a white woman or African?
How much does the bottom of the barrel blowjob go for there so I know how much i'm working on?

125złoty, $36.65 USD

>and he told me crazy fucking stories about how niggers
I guess i'll be finding that out in the near future. If I survive i'll come tell you stories

I disagree. Inflation reflects an increase in the money supply without sufficient increase in production, that's why prices increase. When the supply of money increases, while chasing the same amount of goods and services, prices increase. In Norway prices increase so fast and so much so companies have to increase wages to keep up with labor regulations.

That food and drink you have there would probably cost close to 500 kr probably. 65 USD that is.

I'd put that at about R550/ R600, maybe R700 accounting for meat and alcohol. Remember prices are high because of the drought. So about
173zloty/202zloty?

Was meant for

Right, but you always need some inflation. Healthy inflation is essential to a healthy economy, as long as GDP growth outstrips inflation. Deflation and hyperinflation are very bad for the economy.

So about double. Crazy. But your per capita GDP is like $80K USD no? what are average wages?

If you will entertain me what does a can of coke cost in your countries?

I dunno, I don't buy cans or bottles of pop, but a 1.5L coca cola zero is 5.5ł or about 1.50 USD so not too cheap

but we can buy 400g pierogi in any convenience store for 5 zł about $1.50 USD

Because UK also didn't join it, because this whole EU is designed to drain(privatize) countries and Poland sold itself very early. Once you are owned by foreigners and banks there's no point in joining it anyway, you are already slaving.

I don't drink cola. I just use a can of coke when talking to people from other countries to understand their currency. Coke is such a global company , a can of coke gives you a basic understanding of what a soft drink is worth and therefore some measure of another person's coinage

>some inflation is good for the economy, it means the economy is growing, wages are rising, etc. wage gains are a leading indicator of inflation, generally means companies are flush with money and the economy is good so they pay more to keep employees. 2.5% is healthy inflation.
That's not how it works. It doesn't matter whether there is 0% or 2.5% or even 10% inflation as long as growth is exceeding it. You can have 2.5% inflation and 2.5% nominal growth, but in the end the real growth is zero.
And what's good if your wage is rising, but the prices are growing faster? That's what happened in Ukraine last 4 years.

You are comparing apples to carrots, in USA you need minimum 15 dollars per hour to buy basic apartment, food and transportation.

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a bigmac is 10zł here, about $3.33 USD

Poland is stupid if it imports big mac, that's like begging to become poorer.

right, i said this here
what is inflation in ukraine now? what is the average monthly salary? how about programmer salary?

also

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well a 2l coke light is 1.5 USD here so I guess the prices aren't too far off from eachother. I would assume fruit is cheaper here and hard alcohol is cheaper there. I'm afraid I don't know about big macs, i'm vegetarian. If it was good enough for our uncle it's good enough for me

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we don't import big macs, we make them with polish products. poland has lots of fast food restaurants, mcdonalds is big, so is burger king, kfc etc

American education, healthcare is a lot more expensive, of course Poland and Christian retards will promote more private schools in American style to get poorer.

You always pay USA to sell their products, if you make it on Mars or in Poland.

The Danish krone is pegged to the Euro at 7,44 dkk per Euro.

>hohol
>shilling for t. €
Like clockwork.

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>Right, but you always need some inflation.
Current financial system is inflationary by the definition. The goal is to sustain it with growth.

you can find 2.25L big dildo-like bottles for 6-7zł, sometimes less on sale

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so about the same, but dairy, cheese, chicken, meat is cheap here. chicken is very cheap, 16.5zł/kg for chicken breast, 5USD/kg. beef isn't that cheap, 22zł/kg for 85% ground befe, $6.66/kg

Meat used to be cheap here but it has rocketed in price since the drought, it costs more to grow corn which means more to feed cattle and so on. Fresh fruit and fruit juice is cheap compared to Europe because of the size of the farms, so that's good. Beer isn't too expensive either.

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Your system is especially inflationary, this way they can show fake wealth growth in Ukraine, since they inflate GDP, but reality is Ukrainians will starve even more. Inflation and GDP growth is the magical cookie they were fighting for in wars, substantially increases bank value.
Communism = i made an bio apple, it's worth 1 currency
Ukraine = i made 3 apples, it's worth 1 currency
post-war Ukraine = i made 1 non-bio apple, it's worth 10 currencies.
Suddenly plastic fantastic shit non-bio apple is more worth than bio apple, but why? Because it says it's apple from Facebook, approved by Microsoft.

we have our own chains, we are still recovering from 5 decades of communism, we welcome any type of foreign direct investment..... we are solidly growing, but we have a severe labour shortage

why do you peg it?

Sweden, Czech Republic and Denmark don't have it either

You aren't recovering jack shit, you fucked up. You had 100% ownership of Poland during Communism. You sold it all in late 80ies, you were fast, now you have close to 0% ownership over Poland and will jump into fire for USA and on their nigger NATO penises, holding a cross up your anus, blaming Commies. Such fairy tales don't work with me, when you own your land 100% then nothing is destroyed, Socialism was 100% ownership in any country, that's 0% destruction. You sold it, this is what destroyed you my dear NATO employed faggot.

ok gold standard: wodka

here you can buy 1L żubrówka biała vodka for 40 zł, $11.73 USD, and this is excellent wodka

Time for your meds Milan

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>what is inflation in ukraine now?
13.7% in 2017, already 2.4% in 2018. But you have to take Ukrainian official stats with the grain of salt. Their basket of goods to track inflation is ridiculous, it doesn't represent real consumer basket in any way. So it's actually more.
>what is the average monthly salary?
Officially it's around 280$ before taxes, so around 230$ net. But in reality it's a bit higher, because Ukraine has a big shadow economy. So it's more like 350$.

>how about programmer salary?
You can easily earn 2k dollars. And it's probably one of the few honest ways to earn good money here.

Socialism doesn't has foreigner ownership, so your bullshit that Commies done anything else but gave you everything is a non-argument. You had complete control over land, you decided to jump on NATO-American penis and then came VAT, tariffs, fees, credit rates, housing rates and so on, none of which existed during Socialism.

The cheapest I can find it is for $27.50USD for 750ml. I've honestly never heard of that brand before in my life

If you don’t have your own currency you aren’t a real country. Top Kek at G*rmany, Fr*nc* and Sp***

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0,33 liters? At max. 22 NOK.

I usually buy packs of 10 (24-packs are cheaper in Sweden, but I'm not going to Sweden to buy soda) for 110 kr.

>So it's more like 350$
Really, that's not much off from a white South African wage, when I was working 12hr shifts 6days a week at a bottle store I was making 507$ a month.

how much are living costs?
>rent
>food
>wodka
>cellphone
>internet
>gas

2K dollars, about 6800 zł. you can earn about 4000 zł working a cash register at żabka here, there are 2M here of you, you guys do good LARPing

>wage
I mean salary
>0,33 liters? At max. 22 NOK.
That is insanely expensive. Like three or four times what i'd pay

>$27.50USD/0.75L
WTF? Niggers can't handle wodka, less demand I guess lol

It's my favourite usual wodka. I buy some other shit for special occasions.

How much is beer?

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what? that low? I thought whites in South Africa made good wages, or is that only for skilled whites?

Poland isn't that much different from South Africa relating to prices besides internet being 400% more expensive in South Africa and interest rates being 200% higher.

>when you own your land 100% then nothing is destroyed, Socialism was 100% ownership in any country
Real fairy tales is people owning anything in socialism. Government, in other words Nomenklatura, owned everything. The problem is that in most post-soviet states Nomenklatura was replaced by Oligarchs. They bought a lot of shit dirt cheap in the 90s. And on top of that have immense influence in the government, so they basically also own government companies, too. And although we are capitalist in name, but most common people don't own shit just like during socialism.
I mean, I understand that the Western system is not perfect. But at least a common person there has a chance to build and own something, if he's not stupid and can work hard.

As I said, price levels are insane. 1,5 liters of coke (pic related) costs 35kr. It increased probably 5 kroner since last year due to an 80% increase in sugar taxes. The norwegian government is not very nanny state-ish in general, but I assure you, when it comes to sin taxes and anything else they can siphon you with, they really push hard.

We don't complain because the average salary in Norway is between $65,000 and $70,000 USD per year. Besides, many of us do shopping hauls in Sweden and pay half price for a lot of stuff. It isn't as bad as it sounds. This is a good country to live in, but unless you're from the Cayman Islands or Liechtenstein, you shouldn't visit. It'll be very expensive.

About $5.60 for a six pack of bottles (pic related)
5.5%
What are beer prices there like?

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Forgot pic, whatever. You know what a coke bottle looks like

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It's quite the contrary, government owns everything now, since you literally vote for political parties. What is political party? A private company that you don't own and don't decide what they do. Collective ownership is about people deciding everything on land, because they own it, they own companies, they own own houses and everybody owned houses and land in Socialism. Now governor aka government decides when their buddy oligarch nr. 100432 can build on the land, note, it's not your land any longer, government now owns it, you only rent it. You also rent house, you rent even women, since prostitution is now legal.

Skilled whites earn much more, that was for working in a liquor store between a bus rank and a train station (That means lots of black, thousands, every day, I can't count how many times people tried to stab me) . I am merely a peasant in Africa i'm afraid

the prices don't sound much different no
You are being robbed norbro

Water is probably more expensive in South Africa, almost for sure, since that's just logical.

$5 USD for 1.5L of coca cola? WTF???

Do you have sales tax?

Why is Sweden 50% cheaper?

>how much are living costs?
300$ minimum. 350-400$ if you are renting.

i spend over half a grand on water ever month because I don't trust what comes out the tap. I'm not drinking black's recycled urine thank you very much

Get this
I used to live in Ireland, Cork
And everyday, on my way to work, I would buy 1 small bottle of nestea

And this small fucking bottle costs around ~8zł
In Poland I could buy 2L coca cola for that 8zł
and I would still have some money left

You also had a water crisis, you flush it down in fields, pointless fields.

>Why isn't Poland joining Eurozone?
for fucks sake, why would anyone give up their currency in order to be subjected to a jew pyramide scheme!

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Pointless fields? Do you mean farming? If we don't have farming we don't have an economy or food and the blacks riot and kill us overnight

>for fucks sake, why would anyone give up their currency in order to be subjected to a jew pyramide scheme!
said no American ever

Depends where those farm crops go, sometimes they just throw them away for sake of stocks.
Btw how much is the price of milk there if i buy directly from farmer?

I honestly don't know. I'm a city boy.

renting an apartment is only $50-100 USD?

here in polen you can live like a king for 1500 złoty in living expenses, $440. if you cook much cheaper. probably cheaper than (((ukraine))). cell phones are free here basically.

>cell 1: virgin mobile, #freemium (30 mins, 30 sms, 300mb) - 0 zł (free yes). THen add 10GB data for 9zł for 10.3GB data for $2 USD. Total - $2 USD.

>cell 2: orange, unlimited mins, sms, 15GB data, 25 złoty. but if you buy 30 zł top up, you get another 15GB data for topping up. then you can buy 5gb for 5zł. so for 30 zł you get unlimited talk, text, 35GB data. $8.79USD

25% sales tax (with a reduced rate 12% for food, but I don't think soda gets this exception). On top of that there are fizzy drinks taxes and sugar taxes and kinds of crap. They're not really used to curb consumption, they're more revenue tools, because the government has cut the income tax so much in recent years.

holy shit that is kurwa expensive
2L is only like 6-7zł too
what work and how much did you earn? how much in leprechaun taxes?

>leprechaun taxes?

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I am asking this because EU is doing this thing where they pay countries with milk farmers low cash, but stores then lift the price up regardless, so end result is ruined farmers and supermarkets getting cash.