Name a flaw in Socialism. That's right you can't

Name a flaw in Socialism. That's right you can't.

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>you can't
because you'll be killed

Venezuela.

Because it's theft.

The true version can't be implemented.

Isn't real Socialism

fuck off melbourne

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Nothing is real socialism.

Is missing "National" in front of it.

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Before anyone looks at my flag and calls me a hypocrite, the nordic model is a 55-45 balance of capitalism-socialism, roughly put.

if it were up to capitalists, the oil fund that gives Norway the highest HDI and the highest standard of living in the world would be in the pockets of a handful of ultra rich CEOs instead of going to the benefit of the general population where it belongs

socialism is binary.
either you have it or you don't

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Every time

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>The Nordic model (also called Nordic capitalism[1] or Nordic social democracy)[2][3] refers to the economic and social policies common to the Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland, the Faroe Islands and Sweden). This includes a combination of free market capitalism with a comprehensive welfare state and collective bargaining at the national level with a high percentage of workers belonging to a labour union;[4] and state provision of free education and free healthcare as well as generous, guaranteed pension payments for retirees funded by taxation.
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Obviously my 55-45 number was a wild approximation and in no way an accurate representation of reality, but this might clear it up.

> You either have it or you don't.

Okay then who has it?

rojava

Explain why Venezuela's oil based economy went to shit?
I'm not disagreeing with you, Norway's reserve oil fund is a genius way of preventing corporations like Norsk Hydro from raking in hundreds of billions in profit.

>7 million people
>High trust society
>Oil money and natural resources
>BRUH, IT WORKS IN NORWAY, WHY DON'T WE TRY IT HERE.
>[Insert random norwegian policy]

I never said socialism works. Scandinavian societies are not socialist societies, like Mr. Sanders liked to put it.
It's a fine tuned balance.

Venezuela's economy went to shit because they didn't invest their oil money properly. They poured their dollars directly into their economy without investing in extraction plants or in increased productivity.
The result is what is called the "dutch disease", which basically destroys your economy in the long run, thanks to the unbalanced exchange rate given by oil exports.
Norway was the smartest country of the bunch and you did not fall for the immediate gratification of oil money.

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It's a contract. Citizenship isn't free.

Reminder that Finland is a socialist country and we're doing pretty well.

No, none of the nordic countries are actual socialist states. You finns are just one step further to the left than we are.

Multiculturalism

True. I didn't think we were actually arguing about pure -isms. They never work, naturally.

Flaw #1:
It's socialism.

you Victorian cunts are really starting to piss me off

Being socialist is like anal fuck a cactus

National-socialism is the perfect balance between individualism and collectivism, there are no flaws.

Its forced. And taxation is therefore theft.

because neoliberals don't want those economies to succeed and they will do anything to see them fall.

Human Nature

Unwashed illiterate faggots love it

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1. Progressive taxation mitigates socio-economic mobility, thus preventing optimal flow of capital and stagnanting heirarchies.

2. Assumes everyone is literally the same. Logic completely breaks down when personality science is applied.

3. Socialism, subsequent to this idiotic notion that everyone is exactly the same, treats employers like parasites. Logic which leads to the disincentivisation of effort, and simultaneous incentivisation of degenerate idleness.
As if there can be wealth to redistribute, if no-one is working.

4. Socialism, as a fantasy dreamt up by those who don't work (Marx lived by the charity of a wealthy benefactor), imagines in it's profound ignorance that the functioning of society is extraordinarily simple, and can be planned for more successfully than continuously optimised by an impartial free market price mechanism.


There is a naive view that competent people are somehow stuck within any nation, as a consequence of some deluded sense that any country is some sort of island in an infinite sea.
Competent people can, in reality, afford to go anywhere in the world.

Socialism is about as dumb as it gets. A pathological political system which has never not failed.

There are literally no examples of successful socialism, indeed most socialist states are downright horrorfying cesspits of poverty, starvation, lawlessness and the staggering mistreatment of citizens within concentration camps. To say nothing of commonplace state-sanctioned murder.

History teaches us that societies are only as prosperous and egalitarian as they are liberal, free market republics.

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Can babies sign contracts?

Socialism is not synonymous with welfare.

Welfare is entirely compatible with, and indeed a necessary component of, capitalist republicanism.

One would be hard pressed to find a classical liberal who doesn't recommend redistribution of some kind, to some small degree.

Socialism is in favour do manifest security from competition. Socialism believes the "right" kind of politician (dictator) is capable of directing an entire economy from the top down.
Socialism is a denial of the proven brilliance of the free market, and it's information aggregation within a price mechanism.