There are edgelords on Sup Forums that actually support the Empire

>There are edgelords on Sup Forums that actually support the Empire

fucking disgusting, Yang was the hero of the series

This. Democracy is best.

yang was a lazy fuck that didint want to try and change the system for the better and just retired.

well at the end i wished yang would just give up, the republic was so fucking pathetic

but julian turned it around so its all good

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I want a third pill!

At least he wasn't a fascist homo

Him forcefully changing the system goes against the very foundation of democracy

What a completely trash opinion. Not even worthy of being called an argument.
neck yourself

Stupid, the point of the series is to show you the good and bad points of each system.

he could have become a politician and get voted into office. i would have vote for him.

For e.g. your precious hero Yang, gets his ass completely fucked by his own republican government. When they actually recognize his efforts it's already too late.

His friend abandoned him when he got shot though. In fact, I'm sure it loosened the artery a little bit.

When?

>missing the reference by this much
You've seen LoGH, right? Right, user?

OBERSTEIN A SHIT

Y-Yes? Yes I did.

Oberstein did nothing wrong.

>be Empire member
>have to grow crops by hand for 14 hours a day to make a living
>live in a shitty mud hut and use horses for transport
>get flung into petty space battles every two weeks
>my first son gets gets purged
>daughter gets forced into sex slavery
>try to stop them
>corrupt nobles put me in prison and beat the shit out of me for two weeks
>get nuked for political gain

The "average" citizen Phezzan jew had it best.

>Yang was the hero of the series
He would have been if he had just retired when given the chance. Lost all respect for Yang after that.

SIEG KAISER REINHARD. SIEG NEU REICH

SIEG PRUSSIAN PRIDE GALAXY WIDE

He dindu nuffin. Oberstein is the ideal bureucrat who did his job for well being of the empire

yang fault not for carrying a gun and not having enough bodyguards with him.

>for e.g.

this

Democracy always develops into a shithole. I'd take my bet with a competent leader that can actually change things.

Yes, dictatorships are usually utopian paradises and "strong leaders" never fuck up.

Thats why i said its a bet.

Give me one example worked.

To be fair he had a point in keeping the flame of democracy alive, after all it was about to be extinguished from the history of humanity. Even if prone to corruption, it would still be out there as an option. Likewise, there are no more benevolent dictatorships in the world, so everyone shits on totalitarism even when it has the potential to do good to wrecked beyond all repair shitholes like those in latin america.

*Where it worked

Kekkonen was pretty swell guy

Also that one guy from Chile I think

imagine being this much brainwashed

Josip "My Bro" Tito.

China

Most countries in history

United Kingdom?

China was a fucking shithole under a dictatorship and began advancing when it changed into a true one party state.

Democracy BTFO

I don't even agree with democracy, but people are retarded to believe that a person who's unselfish enough to govern without turning his country into a hellhole would ever come around.

Commies be gone

... were shitholes compared to modern democracies.

The empire actually had the ability to be a proud and strong nation even after its leaders went to shit because of centralized power making governance more effective. The Alliance was inept because it's democracy was more like a oligarchy of politicians or military juntas struggling against each other for social gain and control leading to constant instability thanks to their constitutional structure.
I'm not a fan of tyranny but that's what social contracts exist for, sadly the people have to be convinced when is the correct time to return to a state of war and build a new political society with a new soveriegn power to govern and protect property and life more effectively.

Tito was not a commie, he was a total bro willing to side with the forsaken countries.

I rooted for the empire because I liked its characters more. There will never be a manlier man in an anime than Bittenfeldt.

I think most people were happy to live in them and they would be ultimately better than some shitty democracies that did not last more than a generation or three

>I rooted for totalitarism because their leaders were more charismatic
Spoken like a true sheep.

>My vote matters.
Spoken like a true sheep.

You do realize anime is not real life? I don't care how good of a place to live in a fictional world is.

Phezzan > Iserlohn Republic > Lohengramm Dynasty > FPA > Goldencuck dynasty

You literally can not refute this.

Why do you think people voted for their current representatives? Literally exactly the same thing, only he isn’t being deluded.

Oh yeah? Explain this wanted poster then.

But i know my vote doesn't matter. I'm fucked with either, so i abstain from politics and just move when the political climate is changing.

Oh yeah, the peasants were probably really happy about starving to death while the nobility were feasting. They were probably thrilled about having zero social mobility or even basic human rights. Seems great compared to life in modern democracies.

Some nazi garbage?

They never complained or revolted, they were content with what they had.

How do you think a bunch of peasants are going to revolt without spaceships, when the nobles can blow up entire planets if they feel like it?

100,000RM in gold offered for "communist chief" Josip Broz dead or alive.
Chief as in brave/medicine man.

>They never complained or revolted
Yes, they fucking did. Happened all the time. Besides, it's easy to be content with life when you don't know that anything better can exist.

Gee, nazi propaganda is such a reliable source of information. Stop the presses everybody, Tito was a commie because Goebbels said so!

>it's easy to be content with life when you don't know that anything better can exist.
The important thing is to be content, not to know better. Now i know a lot better that life is full of garbage and i can't be content anymore.

>Tito was not a commie
Hahahahahah odjebi

Since when does being the founder of SAVEZ KOMUNISTA not make you a communist?

>I'm unhappy with my life so everyone else has to be too
I feel sorry for you user, but I still want to keep my freedoms and my rights, and I know that I'm not alone.

Not only has there never been a real communist state, there has never been a real commie. Maybe next time though.

How is a starvation nobilitys fault?

>zero social mobility
Fucking hell dude read a book about Roman emperors and shit. It's not like revolutions were a thing an power being hereditary is not a thing set in stone. Rome had suprising amount of ex-slaves being landowners, military personell and super rich people. There were even a couple of ex-slave Emperors. Actually just pick up a fucking book and read a little more about slavery in ancient times and how there were many people with high class and prestigeous but still a slave or ex-slave. It's not unheard of and social mobility was not stagnated because "muh heredity".

Also human rights were a thing almost everywhere except Russia where serfs were 90% of the fucking population. You can't just go around chopping around people even if you were a fucking nobility. Was it easier tough? Yes, but has things changed since democracy came along? No.

Natural rights are not set in stone. Cultural standards are not set in stone. You don't live in utopia. No democracy is nor will be uncorruptable. Democracies can be stagnated and taken advantage of. Proletaria with no hope still exist.

>b-but it's not REEAL communism,
every time

saved and checked

>muh freedoms
You don't even know what you want. You talk about happiness and then bring freedom, when the freedom of some step on the happiness of others.

There's only so much one can do in a human lifespan, you should save some of that by not whining about liberties that are meant for other people and not for you.

China is the absolute best country in the world tho

That's why I'm against democracy too, I just acknowledge that it's a better system than a straight up dictatorship.

I want to get into this, can you spoonfeed me something like a chart with an order I should watch it in? So far I've seen only the Galaxy Express movie. I've heard unfavorable things about the series (repetitive, etc.), also about other Leiji works like old Yamato, and so on one hand I want to see more of this universe, on the other I'm afraid it will disappoint me and ruin the magic.

dumb commie

Um, you obviously didn't watch it since the show shows the pros and cons of both sides of the spectrum. The best autocracy will out-do the best Democracy, while the worst autocracy will be outdone by the worst democracy. Both can suffer from corruption and decay from within, but both can also be shown to revitalize themselves under strong enough leadership.

You can start with the new-ish cg movie and go from there if you like it.

Autocratic facism is the answer.

Empire had better characters and in the show itself, it was declared (by Yang now less) that a benevolent autocracy was better than a shitty democracy.

Shhh, don't upset the Empirebabbies. What will they do when you take their precious alt-right utopia from them and they can no longer self-insert as Generic Noble Marty Stu #9969 while they fantasize about firing pew-pew lazers, drinking wine with fellow Marty Stus and giving brojobs to Reinhard? Probably grow up and get a life.

>You don't even know what you want
How can you be so sure that you "know what you want?" Did you let Sup Forums tell you the meaning of life is? I would advice against trusting them on anything. They are a bunch of bitter losers, nothing more.

Facism would work, but the people living under it would suffer.

>Empire had better characters
That was one of my gripes about the show, it's easy to root the Empire since they had lots more fleshed out characters. Who the fuck cares about the Alliance after Yang dies?

>I rooted for the Empire because they are gay just like me.
ftfy trap-fancier

>Facism would work, but the people living under it would suffer.
I bet all the NEETs on Sup Forums are so happy that they can spend christmas or go shopping in any country they want, and freely express their opinions on the internet.
I bet the part of Sup Forums that has student loans and shit feels something similar as well.

>alt-right

Yang was a shit leader and he could have stopped democracy from being corrupt if he had not been too pussy to carry a fucking WEAPON in a GODDAMN WARZONE.

Reinhard was the ideal leader for everyone with a government ideal for the ruler and not he ruled, Yang was a shit leader with a love for the ideal government for the choice of the people, but was too lazy to protect himself or take the reigns.

Democracy isn't won with speeches or good feelings and Yang wanted to take it easy and not lead people on the path he knew they should be on. He didn't want to be an example and was a fool when it came to standing up for himself.

And that is why Frederica is a widow

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> if he had not been too pussy to carry a fucking WEAPON in a GODDAMN WARZONE.

Dude Yang nearly failed literally every marksmanship test he ever took, as he himself states him carrying a gun would be more dangerous to himself and his allies than an enemy

Yang still would've died if he carried a firearm.

I am glad that I can express my opinions freely on the internet, and I don't want to get killed for jerking off to degenerate porn either, but my freedom to do such things is much less important than all the actual human rights that a facist system is bound to violate,

Do you have permanent work, your own apartment, and no loans? All of those things are luxuries in a democratic system. What if you have kids? Will you put your kids in a public school or will you agree to work more so you can afford to educate them? What happens if you or any member of your family needs to go to the doctor?

Well, I'm all for privatization, rather than having the shitty service that the government usually has to offer. My country isn't very privatized and hospitals and schools are shit here.

Imagine if, every time your life and health were in danger, you also had to borrow money. What a wonderful world it would be.

No, because if you got a job and earned some money and didn't burn it all on plastic butts, but saved some of it for a rainy day, you wouldn't have to borrow a penny.

faggot

But that's exactly like not working and not having to pay for medical. You're basically saving money now so you can be allowed not to die of a clogged artery later.

Why would they give the people who they are forcing to dig their own mass grave guns?

Democracy is dependent on the best of men to stand up and try to effect the system in a positive way. Yang was a complete nonentity when it came to civilian life and he deserved his fate.

Working and paying actually adds a contribution to society. Capitalism forces people to work without putting a gun to their head, If they don't want to work, fine, but don't expect gibs.

So you're contributing to someone else. Who isn't contributing to (yyou). While paying not to die or go sick. And I'm not sold on the no gun thing.

You get money for the work you put in, so yes, you are contributing to yourself. In facism, you wouldn't be contributing to yourself, at least not as an individual. You'd be working for the hive, and don't think for a second that you would be able to be a NEET in a facist society. Also, the gun part is true. You could probably sustain yourself without society's services, you could farm your own crops, you could hunt on your own land. You couldn't do that in a facist society, because they'd take that very land "for the greater good."

They're burying the black stickmen.

Competent Compassionate Dictators are the ideal human society.

Obviously they're exploitable and unstable.
But Reinhard is literally the second coming of Alexander the Great.

There's no genuine reason to support FPA considering our knowledge of their politic.
It's barely a democracy anymore.
They literally massacred an opposition rally of ten thousand people on Heinessen.
There were fundamentally no politically free means left of challenging the corrupt aspects of their democratic systems.

Yang was so lazy he wouldn't even involve himself in politic to try and fix anything.
And yet still has the balls to look at the Perfect Philosopher King and pretend he has any moral highground.

Reinhard even made the correct decision to transition into a constitutional monarchy before his death, preventing yet more internal political strife within the empire.

Honestly, Yang's actions feel more like they're directed as a message to the Empire rather than improving anything within the FPA.

Sorry pal.

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