First Spencer admits that his stupid college events have to stop. Then TRS disunites the right and swears to stick to silly podcasting. Then Hamback blows up the neckbeard nazi right by choking his wife. And finally Cantwell admits that the movement is dead and that he might be doing 40 years in jail for nothing.
How happy are you that you didn't fall for the alt right meme?
The biggest reason the alt right will die is because they're too busy pissing people off instead of spreading our message.
Identity Europa is a good example of people who actually spread our message instead of making college students butthurt.
Blake Thomas
What the fuck does he want us to do? Love his show BTW.
Cooper Torres
Can I go back to being an ancap now?
Christian Gomez
Were just pacified and divide and conquer time sinks. Quite enjoyable
Christopher Myers
It was pretty obvious there was no point backing it when there wasn't even an actual political party being formed out of it. Also, sage.
Jack Nelson
What message? Gay statue posters aren't a message.
Chase Richardson
Warned everyone not to trust that glow in the dark CIA nigger Spencer
Kayden Nelson
>Our message The reason the alt-right will die is because for their ideals to be achieved they need the united states to fracture which is never going to happen in a way that'll allow for them to make a white ethnostate because even half of whites are pathologically "anti-racist"
Juan Kelly
>ethnostate memes >attract retarded racist assholes
no, Its time to become a true fascist
Jordan Ward
They do small speeches and many other things
Alexander Ward
It was inevitable, ever since Brexit and Trump they've been pushing back HARD but that's ok - out of the Ashes a new movement will arise.
Joshua Perez
There's been ups and downs in this movement since the NSDAP consisted of 7 men. It went from Hitler speaking in bars, to conquering nearly all of Europe.
Fast forward to today, this whole Charlottesville and Spencer not doing colleges is just a tiny little bump that won't ever be mentioned ever again.
Isaiah Perez
The enemy will continue to ensure that whites won't care to be called "racist" anymore. I still wonder whether the provocation of whites is intentional. It had to be planned for and expected.
Ryan Cooper
Ok. I'm sorry.
Colton Barnes
The truth is antifa could punch and the cops did nothing. When the alt right punched they got arrested. Militant communists have Facebook groups and twitter pages. The alt right had theirs shut down.
The capitalists fear the alt right more than literal commies. And they're right - commies are retarded.
Cooper White
Is this today's shill message? Why are you wasting your time?
Half-right. It'll ensure some whites won't care to be labeled racist. The left will definitely care about labels.
Hunter Jenkins
It blatantly is, I've seen a dozen threads like this over the last hour.
Adam Long
None of these movements are hard on the JQ. They cuck for Israel. They're basically social clubs. None of it's serious or making any real impact. No. The Alt-Right/Alt-Lite will both die and find themselves replaced at the right moment.
Julian Cook
Movements that are dying don't get people coming to their board saying they're dying.They tend to just fade out of existence. In other words, you're full of shit OP.
Ian Ward
This is surely going to help his case.
Jacob Bennett
THe biggest reason why the Alt right will die is that it was a media coined controlled opposition that has outlived it's usefulness and ultimately failed in it's objective in helping Hillary Clinton get elected.
Easton Wood
Based frog.
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Gavin Green
wh*Tes will die and it's a good thing
Jonathan Harris
The alt right (((movement))) is a fucking spook. The real thing is much bigger than that, but leftist kikes want to categorize it so they can isolate and destroy it.
The brakes left this train long ago. And that's a GOOD thing
Its the problem with radical politics. It only works when crisis seems immediate. And you may see crisis in the future but normies just won't. They don't want to and the answer isn't to try and force them to and scare them. Get some more BLM riots and then alt right marchers will draw more people, but that's not happening now.
And yeah the whole anti-American or trying to create a new country and destroy America is a no go.
Some Alt right people were just conservatives who stopped defending against claims of racism since that conversation gives the left what they want. But being openly racist also gives them what they want in a different way. The left just has to adjust their position slightly.
Tyler Mitchell
Brilliant observation. This is the real reason I think blm and antifa had their funding cut. They were actually doing more for the right wing than anyone else.
Asher Stewart
People are getting black pilled left and right and coming to the conclusion that the only way out is bloodshed in which very few have the stomach for. The communist subversion has gone on for too long and infected too many people. The right keeps ceding ground to the left. Just 18 years ago gay marriage was a red line for the right. Now we are fighting on how far it can go. The commies will get legalized pedophilla eventualy because red lines on the right are not enforced.
John Campbell
The movement didn't 'fold'. It redirected it's efforts away from street protests that aren't covered fairly by the press and where they arrest you and charge you with insane bullshit for defending yourself against a mob. The cops drove the right wing into a mob of leftists, forced them to defend themselves, and then used the violence to smear the right.
Whether we like the 'optics' of regrouping on the internet or not, it's clearly the smart choice right now. Even an amazingly successful rally where no violence occurs would be transformed into a negative story by the media. We should be about getting the truth out there to as many people as possible, not grandstanding in an unwinnable fight against a corrupt justice system.
We are ultimately winning right now. We're seeing people ditch leftism at a rate unseen since the 80s. And a lot of them are hearing what we have to say and listening closely. Information is our strength. In time we'll be able to take on the justice system.
Hunter Martinez
you should have never gone irl larping and when you did you should have cashed in your chips while ahead. The user model works irl larp doesn't.
Kevin Barnes
Yeah, getting into bumfights with antifa is a net-loss for the movement even if we "win". Ourguys cost a lot more in human capital than some aids-ridden commie. We need to attack the system at our strongest, not the weakest. (Forcing our way into establishments we should want defunded anyway)
this. we try to ignore it because we don't want this to be true but the game is already over. we were all kid when it was basically over we hardly can be blamed
Connor Perry
They've done it every election season since and including 2008, the media attempts to tie racists/white supremacists to the republican candidate in an attempt to disuade people for voting for them, due to the fact that most American votets disagree with the concept of ethnostates.
What the left fails to realise is that people are also against unrestricted open borders and the concept of a country and immigration laws is necessary.
Kayden Cook
You want to revive the movement? Look into the current tactics of casa pound in Italy. They opened bars, started gyms, etc. That's the type of shit the Alt-Right should have been doing, opening shop. Instead it decided to do rallies before they established a strong enough base where their numbers were enough to swamp a police response. Build up the base by appealing to what Americans will be drawn to and cops can't attack, social clubs and public services.
Gavin Perez
You have to realise, National socialists are still socialists and deserve a Helicopter ride. To the government, their problems go away if you are both removed. It's not so much siding with one side over the other, but facilitating the destruction of both camps is the end goal.
Why is it that very few people are actually blaming the police or Antifa for what happened there? I was ONE HUNDRED PERCENT THEIR FAULT. The police did not keep the mob at bay and they arrested any right-wingers, when they tried to defend themselves.
This is tyranny of the worst kind, and, if this injustice is not rectified, the courts, mayor, and police department need to be removed -- with military force.
things will only get worse and worse as the percentage of whites decreases. White racial consciousness will only grow and grow. in the grand scheme of things heimbach didn't matter.
Brandon Jenkins
Identity Europa is a moderate group that does the occasional guerrilla tactic propaganda and flash rallies that are gone as fast as they appeared. Not winning tactics but still better than the dumbass rallies and speeches announced for weeks in advance to give the left tactical advantage that the other alt-kike factions do.
The only ones doing gains against the revolutionary left is the Sup Forums anons and they don't even need to get out of the house aside from the rare but extremely effective and WORLDWIDE trolling.
The right wing needs to get into the business of masculine rehabilitation in a serious manner. That's physical and mental, individual, and collective. Capacity and network building is the key. The formation of groups for male bonding is the effective frontier for irl activism. To Foster brotherhood and cultivate masculinity is a revolutionary act in the current system. Like all revolutions it needs a vanguard.
It shall be private clubs. Not non-profits, which invite government in the Trojan Horse of tax savings, but a handshake between members, and an organic structure built on trust. Athletic or book clubs seem like the correct outward face. Networking through "debates" or "competitions" is easy and unimpeachable. These groups must be explicitly right wing, but this can be internally explicit, and maintained by an invite only structure.
Public action in the form of charity, community event participation and the like can be done intentionally and in a controlled manner.
Political activism should be in the form of secretive postering, street art, and creative subversive guerilla action as individuals. In this manner the group itself is only a positive community force, even if a member is exposed.
I think notes on effective governance and ways to cultivate group excellence as well as networking and meetups could be organized on boards like this one, with appropriate discretion.
Luke Harris
Truth is, the Alt Right was never really a thing. It was just a label the liberal establishment uses to describe an ad-hoc alliance of rightwing internet groups on a wide ideological spectrum, centered around the 2016 presidential election and, to a lesser extent, the European Migrant Crisis. Since then, it has totally fractured because:
1. The election, the cause for unification, ended
2. Major fracturing occured along ideological lines, leading to major infighting
3. Intense negative media pressure and online crackdowns
4. Absolutely abysmal PR on the part of its public representatives in Charlottesville
Any centralized movement can be easily targeted and attacked. Only decentralized resistance has longevity.
Brandon Cox
Yeah, no shit, we've been saying that shit from the beginning.
James Wood
>The right wing needs to get into the business of masculine rehabilitation in a serious manner.
The first step is actually being masculine instead of a neo-Nazi weenie
Gabriel Bell
what the fuck did he do to get 40 years
Hudson Cooper
So the only solution then is to start killing anti-racist whites, right?
Christopher Gutierrez
i don't care about any of those people you mentioned, only one of which i have heard of
Robert Nelson
You can't get people to rally behind Nazis even if the injustice is obvious. Change those at Charlottesville to the Patriot Prayer people or something and at least people would be willing to come out and defend their basic rights.
"They'll call us nazis anyway" is true somewhat but you'll still have a worse outcome if you're openly identifying as Nazis.
And what do you get from identifying as Nazis? Trolling value? Maybe there is something there but at this stage, no. Besides it's not even creative trolling if you do the same thing over and over or if you start believing your own troll.
Camden Morgan
>Tweeter post >1 id post Holy shit can people stop responding to slide threads!
Colton Peterson
This is actually correct. Even trolls are right occasionally.
Angel Brown
This. A bunch of retarded figureheads don't define my ideology, I do.
>People are getting black pilled left and right and coming to the conclusion that the only way out is bloodshed This is a (((shill))), do not listen to him.
There are many posters on Sup Forums spreading propaganda about the need of "violence". That's a trap for you that would actually consider or do that.
Isaiah Wright
When that's actually an option that's on the table things have already shit the bed and the US has collapsed. What I'm getting at is that anything you turbo nerds want or come up with is only viable when shit as hit the fan and it's civil war 2.0. None of you ethnostate cucks actually have any viable plans even if what you say is true
Thomas Torres
This. It is the poltical equivalent of Asymmetric warfare. When your enemy's power greatly exceeds your own, you do not cluster into a single target that can be easily subverted and destroyed.
Hudson Fisher
Read: Because once we redpill the normies they too will understand that what matter is to have Podesta and all other globalist deep statists getting the rope on live TV.
Aaron Sanders
I don't fucking care. If Donald wants me to be his foot soldier I want HARD illegal immigrant removal deadlines, HARD election fraud counter measures, and I want my fucking indictments for Democrat traitors.
Dominic Ward
IE has broken off from the alt right and only refers to itself as identitarian anymore. That being said it's the only group out there that is somewhat decent.
Nicholas Parker
TRS is absolute cancer, they couldn’t be more disorganised if they triedz
Elijah Harris
>Can I go back to being an ancap now?
Yeah I want muh roads, muh sex slaves and my tactical mini nukes back too!
Matthew Thomas
Hillary should have won and the right would have been united and on point for at least another four years.
Trump won and ever since its been nothing but smugness and shitposting thinking the war is over when the battle hasnt even started
Hudson Martin
He's lucky Hillary didn't win, he would have been executed by now.
Aaron Hernandez
He is not facing 40 years in prison. He's facing 5-20, and as long as he doesn't act like a Skrelli-tier retard he'll get the low end of that if he's even convicted.
Cameron Stewart
>How happy are you that you didn't fall for the alt right meme? I'm thrilled. Now I just wish the rest of the White race would realize that voting won't save it, only a White Ethnostate will. (and not only that, but endless talking about it won't make the Ethnostate a reality)
Easton Collins
Good. Hoping to fix socialism with muh white power socialism is stupid.
It's time for libertarian fully automated leftist removal squads to step in.
Christian Miller
IE is the height of cringiness.
>we're just going to avoid controversy and confrontation while putting up the lamest posters and thinking this is some revolutionary shit
Embarrassing. The European identitarians make these chumps look like a compete joke, which is what they are. Over here they at least confront antifa and have public rallies that get media attention, rather than sneaking around and putting up posters and putting pictures of them on twitter like a bunch of pathetic faggots.
Austin Robinson
>I knew it was a set-up, I brought a camera! These people are fucking helpless. If you know it's a trap, then DONT WALK INTO IT. No one from that debacle deserves any sympathy. And whatever movement comes next they can not be allowed to join. Larpers are pure poison.
Gabriel Martin
If you want to destroy the boomers you need a blimper. Deep state next. :3
Lincoln Bailey
>They've done it every election season since and including 2008
They've done it in every election since the 1960s at least. Conservatives and Republicans have played their game and constantly distanced themselves from their more militant vanguard, and the result has been one loss after another. Note that the left has been winning and the left does not disavow their vanguard--instead they tacitly endorse them (some of whom were actually terrorists in the 60s and 70s)--and the result has been a complete transformation of the norms of society.
Lucas Richardson
Here comes the blackpill It will keep getting worse until we are like the days of Noah Then the end of the world happens You can accept jesus or not when it happens up to you call me a Christ cuck call him a kike on a stick all you want the bible is happening
Sebastian Butler
This, if you couldn't tell the whole thing was a glow in the dark psyop from the beginning just fuck off from any kind of political discussion ever again because you're pants on head retarded.
Jaxon Cox
I respect Cantwell.
Ryder Williams
Identity Europa is the alt right
Zachary Williams
What movement? The alt-right was an invented term, and these podcasters were sophistic farts in the wind. Nothing is dead, because there was never anything to lose.
David Moore
Wouldn't that violate the NAP?
Nolan Gomez
Basically amerimutts cant do political activism for shit.
No, it's self defense. Socialist strip you of economic freedom and rights. See welfare, free speech, guns, etc.
Andrew Jones
>These people are fucking helpless. If you know it's a trap, then DONT WALK INTO IT. No one from that debacle deserves any sympathy. And whatever movement comes next they can not be allowed to join. Larpers are pure poison. On top of the fact that they believed and trusted that the government would protect them.
It's like they think the law applies to Whites equally or something.
And that we'll be allowed to air our grievances and be allowed to vote for the issues that concern us.
Hudson Torres
It died when Hitler ate a bullet.
Jack Reyes
>It died when Hitler ate a bullet. *moved to Argentina
Robert Long
If it took you until 2016 to learn about the alt-right, you're a Johnny come extremely lately.
Austin Williams
The left does that because they're all on the same team. Nazi larpers are not on my team. I fly the American flag, they fly the swastika. They're living in fantasy land and have no use to the right. Antifa at least serves the left's interests. What the fuck have the "militant vanguard" ever done for the right?
Connor Rodriguez
He's an idiot for thinking the movement is dead because TWP got exposed as degenerates. They were a bunch of skinheads with hair from the start.
Oliver Brown
You believe in rights...do you believe in responsibilities as well?
Aiden Martin
>Nazi larpers are not on my team. So you're saying you don't care about the existence or survival of the White race?
What, you want to live among the mud races just as long as they "act" White?
>I fly the American flag, *Jewish dishrag
>What the fuck have the "militant vanguard" ever done for the right? The existence of the White race trumps the "right."
People in the alt-right hardly have the strength or fortitude of Hitler. The ability to soldier on through bad times is what inspires people the most.
Julian Thompson
Identity Europa is very millenial in that sense. Having said that, I'm open to novel approaches because we obviously can't take the same approaches that have previoualy failed and expect them to succeed. We need some innovation.
Jason Morgan
>the USA couldnt possibly fracture Yea that couldnt possibly happen to a country spanning a continent with races and political parties who hate one another more each day
That is completely impossible
Caleb Martin
You aren't doing shit for the white race. "Wanting" to save it and "acting" to save it are two very different things. What are your actions? Are you running for office? Are you infiltrating hollywood and the banking industry? Are you helping other whites in need with charity and kindness? No, you're not doing shit other than being a constant embarrassment. Even other white nationalists fucking hate you.
The movement broke when everyone stepped away from Jason Kessler. There is no unity now and now each group is moving further apart. Ill be ready in another 10-15 years for another try.
Kevin Gutierrez
You can't rally behind 'racism', either.
What the fuck do you cucks want or expect? 'Hiding' true views from the alphabet agencies / msm as hypothetical movements gain popularity somehow? Never addressing them until we achieve power and pull sneaky politicking, expecting the Left / kikes not to counter or reverse progress through any means they can?
There has to be purges of some kind, through blood or legaliese, before we can gain ground. Otherwise we're always working with bloodcrazed shadows always lurking in wait. THAT'S why people are itching for blood... Every other route available is rotten with traps and saboteurs.