Why does Sup Forums try to pretend that “degeneracy” is only a modern phenomenon?

Why does Sup Forums try to pretend that “degeneracy” is only a modern phenomenon?

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too many users on here haven't actually read Sup Forums literature

Because degeneracy back then was kept in secret

Nobody claims that.
It's about the rate and attitudes toward it.
Periods of decadance occured many times in the past and were usually followed by a decline.

degeneracy destroyed rome, that's why one should be concerned with its spread today

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>Why does Sup Forums try to pretend that “degeneracy” is only a modern phenomenon?
Noone ever pretended that. It's well known that civilization go through cycles otherwise the Roman Empire would still exist.

Kek, no it wasn't.

this, shunned and hated
now its public..disgusting

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>implying these sexual acts weren't primarily carried out by the wealthy elite who frequently abused their power

The Roman aristocracy, in it's later years, were decadent as fuck. Same as our society is now.

Fake pictures

Kek, is that a young Varg?

Its a decease

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Why are posting murals from the walls of a brothel and pretending they represent a social norm?

Why the fuck is Varg Vikernes there? He's literally ooposed to every single thing in that picture. Probably more so than any Sup Forumsfag.

This meme doens't make any sense

Take homosexuality in ancient world for example:
It was the Greek ideal of heroic brotherhood, some Spartan soldiers were willing to die for their partner soldiers. Homosexuality was militant, heroic and highest ideal of masculinity and bond between men.

These days you have just fags who sound like women and probably use make-up

So yes, ancient world maybe had thing like homosexuality, but even that was something heroic, idealistic and non-degenerate. Nothing to do with 21st century american homosexuality and degeneracy

degeneracy affects every late stage empire, read your Glubb

It's all connected to jealous and self hatred.

It's like how can you judge someone for going ham crazy at a party spreading good vibes when you spend hours on Sup Forums scrolling, beating your dick, etc.

becuase history repeates itself

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they're from a public bath operated by municipal authorities

I love a bit of degeneracy. Without degeneracy, life becomes a bore.

>Can't even spell disease

Typical low iq amerilard, you really showed us

>the oldest profession in the world is not a social norm

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There are actually only a few examples of this and thousands of other frescos, so just like always, media is able to magnify or inflate the perception how much of this there was.

Wow you are pretty retarded aren't you?

Degenerate behavior was always there but the difference is it is talked about in hushed tones when society is doing well. When it becomes public and proclaimed in the open spaces it destroys society. The young who have no long term thinking destroy themselves either drugs, sex, booze etc. they make perminant life choices because it feels good. They need society to shame them into doing the right thing until they can comprehend the reasons.
Later adults that start to get into degenerate behavior is not as damaging to society as destroying the youth.

One has to be a bit short in the brains department to think that it was buttfucking what propelled and caused the ultimate fragmentation of the empire.

Most christcuck memes don't make sense

>i literally have no idea what im talking about: the post
Degeneracy was pretty commonplace for a long time until abrahamic religions shamed everyone into being puritans in public but they were still degenerates in secret. Having it in secret is really not better than in public because its still happening you are just sticking your head in the sand like a good goy and ignoring that your pastor has a little boy kneeling underneath his gown

Degeneritcy becomes Main stream in a society/ civilisation near the end of it.

Well no othe oldest profession is hunter or gatherer, you cant trade sex for stuff unless someone already collected stuff

it's a convenient symbol for the self-destructive pursuit of pleasure. rather than engaging in some buttfuckery as a teen and then moving on to live a productive and social life roman citizens had begun maintaining adolescent lifestyles well into adulthood. a man who fucks a man represents loss of the future

>good vibes man
>can you buy me a sandwich I was too high to be productive member of society

The older I got the more I realized the open degenerate behavior is fucking cancer. Behind closed doors is not as bad and has much less effect on society. Once it is open and people march to it the cancer spreads. People normalize the behavior. The destructiveness spreads from a few isolated cases to the general population and the children.

When swingers were hidden groups it’s effect on society was minimal. A select group practiced it but it was shunned for the most part.
Now the cucking and traditional swinging is normalized more people are willing to try it and get destroyed by it. Younger couples are now swinging. A group that used to consist of late 30s 40s couples is now 20 something’s(outside of Hollywood) couples.

>I use the term "degeneracy" because daddy Hitler used it.

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Mohammed don’t you have white girl to rape

Everybody here knows rome was degenerate you fucking moron.

You seem under the impression that degeneracy is the cause and not a symptom of a dying civilization

Christfags autistically believe paganism equals atheism

Right. Much better having pedophilia legalized so the pastor can have his dick sucked in public, maybe even marry a little boy.

Go fuck yourself.

>Mistaking the cause for the consequence
Go back to Weimar

>Having a healthy family and a rewarding career is boring
>t. Degenerate

Do you think that making pedophelia illegal solves the problem? I would never want to make it legal but it doesnt solve the problem, just like gun control doesnt stop criminals from comitting crimes. You just force people to be secretive.

You have to raise people properly in the first place. The vast majority of pedophiles come from religious families and the vast majority were also abused as children. Church's are well known to cover up any and all pedophilia that happens and THAT is the main problem.

It's not modern but the last stage before a high civilization collapses.

You mean laws have no meaning unless they're effectively enforced? Wew, lad. Never thought of that.

>vast majority of pedophiles come from religious families
[citation needed]

It causes the breakdown of the family. This forces broken people to look for help from the next family in line; the government. As more and more broken people pile up the society breaks down.

ROME was only openly degenerate in the Mid empire period. Caligula normalized the behavior. Until then being a fag was an insult to a Roman.

No one said it was. The Roman Empire is a great example of a civilisation that fell due to degeneracy.

Of course it isn't. Does anyone believe it is?
But the decline of Rome was to no small deal because of said degeneracy.

Correct. Reading Caligula should be obligatory for everyone, not only on Sup Forums.

Learn to spell user.

>get a mouthful of your buddy's benis
>covered with his sweat and blood too

mmmm ... brb

But what is Modernity? The Romans of the late empire were Modernists, in that they believes themselves to be in a new period, one in which traditions were no longer useful, and for which the "ancient" morality was outmoded. They were focused on their present, with little concern for long run consequences. The future would take care of itself. Progress was inevitable. It was the end of History. You see, Modernism is not a new concept, but it is instead the concept that new is better. Degeneracy is a plague of Modernity in that engaging with Modernism brings about degeneration. At this point only three possibilities remain: revitalization, revolution, or collapse. We either recaoturw the spirit of life with which the system began, we adopt a new system which captures the spirit of the people, or else the people will become scattered and the system will collapse. It is not a modern problem--the problem is Modernism.

This. Seems like history’s repeating itself, don’t cha think?
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>Caligula normalized the behavior.

t. brainlet who reads wikipedia

a simple google search tells you this is true. just look how rampant pedophelia is in the islamic and catholic worlds

>Degeneracy made the great empire fall

Really stirs my pot

And what about Japan? Or China? Or India? Or the American Public School System? Or literally everywhere?

>Or India?
extremely religious
>china
not a lot of pedos
>japan
not a lot of pedos

Yes, it's happened again and again throughout history. We are in the midst of the decent into to a likewise period. You dummies refuse to live by the law, and now you will die by law. We are seeing the revival of the goddess cult, with it's temple prostitution, tansgenderism, fornication, man on man anal butt sex, beastiality, pedophilia, and all manner of sexual transgressiveness. I see a spirit darkness descending upon the land. The darkness of the whore. Enjoy your matriarchy and being ruled over by woman for all time.
>late 15c., from Latin degeneratus, past participle of degenerare "to be inferior to one's ancestors, to become unlike one's race or kind, fall from ancestral quality," used of physical as well as moral qualities, from phrase de genere, from de + genus (genitive generis) "birth, descent" (from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget").

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Degeneracy is like the CO2 of civilization systems

>japan
>not a lot of pedos
Do you know where you are?

Rome was full of degeneracy but it eventually led to the downfall of its society. The Pax Romana was the worst thing that could have happened to the Roman people because they all got soft.

those paintings are touched up to make the males look blacker. really makes you think.
Look up yhe original pieces if you don't believe me.
t.art student

>Sup Forums is representative of even 0.1% of japan
Holy shit kys newfag you have never been to japaan have you. Otaku culture isnt nearly as popular as you think it is there and even those that do like it the overwhelming majority despise loli and shotacon. that is why those that do take to 2channel, they are outcasts

People who suffer are willing to suffer a little more so other people suffer less. People who have never suffered are unaware of the danger that exists beyond the walls. The walls come down, and those that remain have no understanding of how to put them back up agains.

strawman
no on suggests that
sodom and gomorrah was in the time of abraham, quite shortly after the flood

>led to the downfall of its society.
> i have no idea what actually led to the downfall of rome: the post
which is pretty sad since we have so much well documented history on rome

Sure, it's not the same in practice but the consequences are similar.

Pagans are just autistic atheists.

>thinking I'm talking about Otaku's
You should see their photography.

But seriously, the non-religious greeks are the most notorious pedophiles in History. How can you be commenting on this thread amd not know this?

I was told that what destroyed the Romans was rampant corruption on the system.

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>implying Sup Forums doesn't posit that degeneracy leads to downfall of civilization, proof in your pic
is it blissful being so stupid?

I dont think you know what the word non religious means user

>why Sup Forums ____

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>2d isn't popular in Japan
You're incorrect Nazi larper. Lolicon is tolerated by almost everyone in Japan; they didn't even have CP laws until recently because the UN pressures them over the absence of penalties for CP ownership, and even now no one gets more than a fine. Nobody cares because it's an ingrained aspect of their culture. I spent 3 years in Japan and believe me, they sell lolicon (and every other kind of 2d) right there in downtown Tokyo and droves of Japs buy the stuff.

Do you think muslims or slavs will tolerate a matriarchy? Matriarchies always dissolve into chaos unless they are artificially maintained, which is unlikely once a great collapse happens in the USA.

>You're incorrect Nazi larper. Lolicon is tolerated by almost everyone in Japan;
citation required

I don't know, maybe the guys putting forth reason as the only way to know anything, and teaching people to stop caring about the gods, and getting tried for corrupting the youth with their anti-traditionalism and anti-spiritualism?

>Doesnt understand the genes responsible for gaining you power are the same that make you susceptible to degeneracy
Oh boi. You have lot to learn

we dont you fucking tard. Degeneracy as been killing civilizations since the dawn of man. Look at rome ffs

It is rampant in the world. Perhaps East Asia and South America are relatively void of pedophilia.

no u

Just because it's old doesn't mean it's automatically right.

>Goddess cult
You're thinking of Abrahimic religions, e.g Islam, Catholicism/Prot/Ortho Christianity or Judaism

Who is the Goddess of Judaism?

your women are so slutty, they literally can not be raped

Whoever the wall belonged to.
Whoever guided Moses out of Egypt.
Whoever wished the death of Isaac

Behold, the logic that destroyed the wondrous city of Bagdad--if something is common enough, it no longer counts as theft.

>Israel always calls God "he"
>Describe Israel as the bride of God
>Have almost no female heroes
Shit, you're right

Why do you think she did it? Why did she conquer the world only to make people restrict themselves only to fall to chaos/degeneracy only to rise later again and again?

Because he's manipulative, she doesn't want to be left by her offspring humanity, so she made the cycles of civilization on purpose .

Restrict freedom = People want more freedom
Too much freedom = people want to be restricted and come back to her.

She throws her children out of the house just so they suffer and want to live with her again in her prison

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Lies spun by her, placed into the hearts and minds of men and women from over the ages.

Why do you think it was for? The witch hunts? The chasing of the pagans and their assimilation?

No loose ends to tie her to her past.

Wow. That's so retarded you must actually be 12.

minerva/cosmic owl... basically moloch's bottom bitch

God is not material, you fucking twat.

ROME WAS NEVER MORAL. WHAT DESTROYED THEM WAS THE REVENGE OF THE OPPRESSED BY THE ROMAN RULE.
BY TODAY'S STANDARDS ROMANS WERE A BUNCH POWER HUNGRY, BLOOD THIRSTY SAVAGES, WANTING TO CONQUER THE ENTIRE WORLD BY FORCE. THEY WERE FAR OF WHAT WE CALL TODAY 'CIVILIZED'. THE BARBARIANS WITH WITH BETTER ARCHITECTURE AND MILITARY.

We don't

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Degeneracy is rampant in dying and uncivilized societies. What is so hard to understand about this you little muppet?

Oh I see. Been chewing on "Baby's First Occultism". Careful, some of the corners are sharp

because adam and eve were whores

THEY WERE BARBARIANS WITH BETTER ARCHITECTURE AND MILITARY.**

Why do people claim Jesus was born of a virgin woman?

Why does he denounce his mother, brothers and sisters?

Degeneracy pops up with prosperity to undermine civilization. We need to combat it, not embrace it.

well of course He has SOME aspect of the "material" within his being in his native "space"