Holocaust

How accurate are the death estimates? Did 6 million Jews really die?

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Its as accurate as shooting inmates from a balcony while in reality the balcony was situated lower and to the other side opposite to the camp...

The pic related never actually happened. It was fabricated just like the book "Night"

It wasn’t 6 million European Jews. It was all of them. Any survivors of the camps were Poles, Czechs, gypsies, etc. they were told to pretend to be Jews by Allied authorities to lie about genocide to further help punish Germany.

If you look at the numbers posted immediately after WW2, the estimate was around 250,000 Jews killed. By the time I was in high school around 2004, the number was 6.6 million. I just saw a Netflix documentary a few months ago that said 11.2 million Jews died in concentration camps.

It's physically impossible.

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... and the source of this number literally says it's not the total death toll. The underlined sentence down there.

6,6 million where? Estimations vary between 5,1 and 6,3 million.

11,2 number refers to the broad definition of the Holocaust -> ~ 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews

It's not physically impossible.

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Worldwide Jewish number.

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>6 million jews died.
>Holocaust controversy said 5.8 million died.
Makes me think.

The Netflix documentary said 11.2 million Jews, maybe they misspoke, let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

So you are telling me that 16 facilities burned 11.2 million people in 5 years? Five hard years where fuel and man power was increasingly hard to find? That's 6,100 a day, or roughly 385 people a day in each camp, if they were working 24 hours a day. Assuming they worked 18 hours a day, that becomes 512 in each camp when you factor in time taken off. Once you factor in that not all of these camps were up and running by 1939, it becomes an even higher figure.

You are telling me that a beleaguered Germany was able to deal with 384+ dead bodies per camp per day? There would be mountains of ash, bones, evidence of some sort, yet we have little. They claim most Jews were killed in firing lines or by funeral pyre, and only a small percentage were burned in crematoriums. I have heard people say anything from they had special bone crushing machines, to they were used for fertilizer, or that they were simply mixed up with water and soaked into the ground. Some people point to the fact that Buchenwald had a mass grave with near 3500 bodies in it. Okay, so where are the other hundreds of thousands? If not millions?

I can't believe this shit as I get older, especially when you see how much the official numbers grow and grow over the years. Obviously they killed a ton of people, but these numbers are garbage.

> Estimations vary between 5,1 and 6,3 million.

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>Is 6 3 million and is between
>Brainlet is you.
Mate your sources aren't agreeing with you.

>What are Pogroms
>What are Death Squads
>What are Gas Vans
>What are Ghettos

They didnt all die in camps user.

5.1 million minimum, according to most estimates. There were roughly 9 million Jews in Europe before the war, after the war less than 3 million.

Some surrender-monkey will tell you OY VEY, IT WAS HUOBEQFEQ(=)/)/(TY#"&/)RG MILLION GOY-FUCK! It always does.

Not all the Jews who were killed in the Holocaust were cremated... not all the Jews who were killed in the Holocaust were gassed...

First learn about the Holocaust before making such claims.

Also ever heard of open-air cremations?

Picture related is a report which cites 363k Jews executed (shot) for "partisan activities", but the thing is these were Jews of all age groups. "Partisan activity" was just an excuse as we know babies can't perform partisan activities.

>jews are counted by the american jewish committee

>all other races are counted by bureau of the census

btfo with this shit

>What are Gas Vans
holy shit, I had no idea. The answer is, something even less efficient than a funeral pyre

Forgot to attach

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The data is provided by jews i presume?

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>They claim most Jews were killed in firing lines or by funeral pyre
Guess you missed that part?

... and their source are censuses like picture related...

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Never mind, the kike-fag () is already here...


You must have many of shekels kike, you've been here ALL. FUCKING. DAY.

Meanwhile, I have fixed some shit on my company, went to see my dad and my aunt, been shopping with my girl, changed car.. Your life is SHIT kike. Gas yourself.

Not even close bud

Burning pits in a swamp? Ayy lmao

How would you know he was here all day...unless you have been here all day yourself?

The sources cite between 5,1 and 6,3 million. I also literally said that. Where exactly do my sources not agree with me?

Ok, let's assume 6 million kikes actually died. What about other 5 million of non-kikes? Why nobody cares about them? Holocaust == hypocrisy. Jews must be stopped.

>How accurate are the death estimates?
Completely inaccurate.

>Did 6 million Jews really die?
0 Jews died in the Holocaust because the Holocaust didn't happen.

Oh, is that so, shlomo?

No Jews died at all. The Jews forced the Germans into the camps to execute them, then when the Jew army was losing against glorious America, they switched their outfits knowing that the Germans wouldn't have time to exact revenge before the Americans kicked down the doors and committed war crimes against them. All the 'Germans' in the field were Jewish golems.

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Holocaust is the most shilled genocide in the world, not the most massive nor the most outrageous. It's just pushed by jews.

5 million?bruh the death toll of ww2 was over 50 million

>Red Cross is the official census.
“Dehomag” is the company and their records are owned privately by a company you all know. I wonder why they keep the records to themselves?

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What about those that were killed by jews?

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Fake.

There's a video out there of high ranking Jews admitting they made they inflated the casualty numbers to gain sympathy for the Jewish cause.

0 Jews? Not even 250,000? Come on

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> 7 nazis with plastic surgery and some leftover film
> das evidenz

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"So during the period in which Auschwitz was active, the SS had the area drained; as can be seen today, the drainage, which has not been maintained since 1945, has deteriorated and the water level has risen. "

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No Holocaust happened. Nazi Germany never existed and neither did Hitler

I do believe that 6 million is an accurate estimate

However, I also believe that the Holocaust, despite not being the largest or worst genocide, is overly publicised for political reasons.

Holocaust denial is bad for optics because it is so provably false. Those of you who believe this, stop you're playing into their hands.

WW2 != holohaux. That's completely separate death toll.

Since most of them were burned there is no telling what the actual number was but i doubt it was 6 gorillian.

>Not even 250,000?
Oh Jews died during WW2...I don't deny that. But Jews dying during WW2 is not a Holocaust.

But there was no program of extermination of the Jews by the NSDAP. Therefore since the Holocaust didn't happen, 0 Jews died in the Holocaust.

I'd like to address some of your posts, but firstly, why do you use the UN flag?

Prove that Hitler did indeed exist.

I don't think anyone denies the holocaust, they deny the gassings and the final solution.

>16.5 million
Is this a joke, even the highest estimates for the "Holodomor" (which was really just a part of the widespread famine all across the USSR and not something just targeting Ukrainians) put the death toll at 10 million. The funny thing is though, the Holodomor is in fact very poorly documented compared to the Holocaust, so why accept that story without question while denying that the holocaust even happened is very strange.

Because of legal issues.

What is this strawman?

Why is it relevant?

sometimes it really feels like that

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The holocaust happened but the numbers are BULLSHIT

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One claims only 5.8-5.9 died you orher source contradict that it is between 5-6 million

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=mRO04q_lQi4
>no program of extermination
Your word against Himmlers

The shill that got utterly BTFO'd in the last threads, still posting - making an overtime for more Shekels, a very pathetic existance.

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You said not all Jews were cremated or gassed here as a way to refute my point.

I agree with you, by official records, most were shot or burned in the open air (funeral pyre), like I said here . The problem is, if "most" were killed by gunshots and open air burning, we would have tons of bones left over. Unless you subject a body to 45 minutes or more of a super high heat (like in a modern crematorium), you have bones left over. Where are they? No strawmen here.

Those are not death claims (except for the 2 last papers in 1945). How about reading it? And how about you stop cherrypicking?

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The number might be high. But isn't the 10 million for the 1932-1933 famine alone?

Oyyyy......

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I don't even get what point this one is trying to make

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The tattoos they were marked with are also proof as they don't exceed the original death toll numbers, how they've gotten away with inflating the number so high for so long is a mystery

1309 posts from the first February to this day - totally not a JIDF shill

it's your best evidence. everything falls apart when it's fake

No, gassing was the most applied method. Only on start of the war the mass shootings was the most applied method.
Also the open-air burnings where to dispose the bodies, not to kill.

Where are you getting these information? Why are you strawmanning? Why are you doubting the Holocaust when what you are saying is not what the historians are claiming?

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.hr/2012/09/friedrich-paul-berg-yelled-for-photos.html

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.hr/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/JewishHistory/survey_ukraine_2005.pdf

sobibor.info.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Autumn_2016-Y.-Haimi.pdf

theguardian.com/world/2007/jun/06/secondworldwar.ukraine

yahadmap.org/#village/ivaniv-ianov-yanov-yanoff-vinnytsia-ukraine.1322

rohatynjewishheritage.org/en/projects/mass-grave-survey-2017/

They can also be easilly debunked by looking at population numbers of the time, and I've even seen recent claims that nearly as many as 20 mil Jews died in the holocaust, it really is impossible though that it was any more than 300,000

>inb4 his next argument will be the SHEKELSHOAHOVEN9k that can work against thermodynamics due to super nazi science

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>The average volume of human body as measured by water displacement; data based on sample of 521 people, age range 17-51 years is about 66.4 L or 0.0664 cubic meters.

I've always wanted someone to make an infographic about this.

Six million human bodies, just in sheer mass, is astoundingly large.

around 5.5 to 6 million

The 20 million claim is implied on the broader definition of the Holocaust - meaning 20 million PEOPLE not JEWS.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/9906771/Nazis-may-have-killed-up-to-20m-claims-shocking-new-Holocaust-study.html

"The number of locations is almost double previous estimates made by the same institution and, all told, they may have imprisoned and killed between 15 to 20 million people."

Ask it to the sheriff

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>implying that all holocaust victims died in the camps
>ignoring all the Jews killed by einsatzgruppen killing squads
Also the 11 million figure is probably severely inflated yes, I will give you that.

>I claim to doubt 11.2 million dying
>NO GOY ITS ACTUALLY 20 MILLION
oy vey, I can't keep up

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There is no evidence in there that somehow ever debunked this.

Lmao, I may be a faggot but at least i'm not a jew, Muhammad.

>No bones nigger
Where are the millions?

>Uses ((theguardion)) as source.

It's an answer to the person who claimed the recent studies say that 20 million Jews died whereas it's 20 million PEOPLE, because the broader definition of the Holocaust involves non-Jews as well.

Same as the 11,2 million figure, it's Jews and non-Jews.

The estimations of death toll of Jews in the Holocaust is between 5,1 and 6,3 million.

These are simple words, why are they so hard to comprehend?

Just elaborate for the normies the picture is from a movie directed and produced by you guessed it, a jew

>let me attack one source ..... maybe they'll think i refuted everything.... !! muh denial!

Ad Hominems are irrelevant.

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see He is 24/7 on Sup Forums typing debunked holohoax ally propaganda out, he is trying to shut it down.

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>Your word against Himmlers
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches

national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/2009/04/i-first-heard-recording-of-himmlers.html

web.archive.org/web/20140729004414/http://endzog.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/heinrich-himmlers-faked-posen-jewish-extermination-speech

>the only proof of the holocaust is paper!
lol

>Ad Hominems are irrelevant.
Good thing we have nearly 40 books and over a dozen documentary movies to prove that the Holocaust didn't happen then, huh?

holocausthandbooks.com/

6 million died, 11 million in Auschwitz alone.

In the Time magazine profile on Hitler before the war (he was on the cover I think) it explicitly stated that there were 6,000,000 Jews in Germany. That's it. I suspect this is where the idiotic 6M came from: the total population of Jews in Germany at the start of the war

>5,8-5,9 million is not between 5,1 - 6,3 million

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Retourne en israel sous-race de youpin du CRIF

I don't remember where I read this, but there was this guy that systematically went through the differences causes of deaths for jews in the holocaust (I.e. it wasn't just stastistical data, so he didn't count jews that just moved out of europe) and he got it to 5.2 million if I remember correctly. Cannot confirm or deny, but that's where I'd put my guess.

>6 million died, 11 million in Auschwitz alone.
It' was 20 million in gas chambers you holocaust denying antisemite!

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Note that you didn't refute it.

Also youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg

and picture related

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>In the Time magazine profile on Hitler before the war (he was on the cover I think) it explicitly stated that there were 6,000,000 Jews in Germany. That's it. I suspect this is where the idiotic 6M came from: the total population of Jews in Germany at the start of the war

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Not very accurate. it was closer to 100 million.

>Note that you didn't refute it.
Note that you aresn't actually posting proof that he Holocaust happened.

And I already refuted the posen speech

Getting debunked by holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.hr/ ;^)

Wait lol, I got that wrong. Time is quoting the number of Jews in Germany at 700k.

So I guess there were 5.3 million killed in Poland? :)


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> Germany's 700,000 Jews have been tortured physically, robbed of homes and properties, denied a chance to earn a living, chased off the streets. Now they are being held for "ransom," a gangster trick through the ages.

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