>nobody owns one, but everyone "knows" they are shit >nobody on Sup Forums posts track data, but everyone "knows" they are shit >nobody drives one, but many people have posted photos and videos of them on and off the track >lots of anti-Tesla/anti-Elon Musk comments with half-truths and blatant false data I'm not even joking when I say every one of these threads has a clear vibe of auto manufacturers conspiring to slander and fraudulently claim false information against Tesla and their products.
>mfw Elon is being denied licensing and rights that all other auto manufacturers get without reason >mfw Tesla is denied tax cuts and government hand-outs because oil and auto manufacturer lobbyists paid capital hill to deny them >mfw Panasonic makes billions every year and people still get butt hurt over the losses Tesla generates without considering the full picture
Go ahead. Call me a Tesla supporter. I'm ok with progress.
>Buying a car from a new brand that is ran by a corporate welfare queen. People are smart thats why.
Jace Ward
>corporate welfare queen. Name a single American car manufacturer that doesn't abuse government handouts more than Tesla does.
I'll wait.
Thomas Russell
Talking about Elon Musk you retard.
Caleb Sanchez
So you mean you're talking about Tesla, a car manufacturer that benefits less from government regulations and handouts than fossile manufacturers because of limited lobbying?
Jaxon Walker
That makes him not a welfare queen?
Wyatt Baker
Nope, Elon you dumb leaf.
Jacob Morris
idk, comes across kinda scammy, but so did Tesla. I hope he gets it done though.
Lucas Gonzalez
How is he supposed to compete against corporations who get billions in handouts if he doesn't apply for them as well?
Why is it that this argument is often brought up and then later on the same poster will shill for fossil fuel cars who do the same shit but worse?
Ayden Price
Ohhh, the guy that pays himself $0 from Tesla.
The guy that made his own millions and spent it all on the company? That guy? The one that actually invested in stuff and turns out he now is worth a lot more because he worked on those investments?
Yeah, he's a total deadbeat. I see what you mean. Your evidence is definitely conclusive: he sucks ass.
You're a fucking retard, memefag, your opinion ain't shit.
The owner of Tesla getting money to invest in Tesla?
Are you retarded?
Grayson Nguyen
Didn't expect reddit to be here to defend their bull. Such is the life of a Musk Cuck.
Carter Gray
>Tesla is denied tax cuts and government hand-outs now we definately know you're one stupid ass fuck since damn near every cent in tesla's name is government money
William White
>no arguments as expected from a memeflag shill
Austin Hernandez
>calls person actually trying to improve the world a freeloader shitter >can't provide counterarguments >proceed to scream reddit while clearly being from there himself
lel I guarantee you I've been here longer than you.
>damn near every cent in tesla's name is government money >outsells every luxury cars in its category after a single decade of existing
Eli Richardson
>I'll support a man that moves around his money a lot to hide the fact that he is in debt and losing profits.
reddit pls.
Julian Collins
It's too early for the australians, you're clearly a leaf. I'm not gonna bother replying until you actually say something or drop the memeflag.
James Ward
I’ll consider them to be a decent company when they can manufacture their own parts correctly and stop running on government money.
Noah Brooks
Stop being a nigger sjw tribalist.
Robert Cooper
dude I daily my fc and it's super good he better not be bad mouthing it
Gavin Fisher
>moves around his money a lot >breaking through every former technical barriers in the space industry
Why is it that you're selectively demanding when it comes to Elon Musk but somehow ignore all the crooked, speculative, offshoring, embezzling shit the average auto corporatists do with their stocks and handouts?
Ryder Jenkins
>Drop the meme flag "HURR DURR LETS DISSICATE EACH OTHERS FLAGS AND LOCATION INSTAED OF THE ARGUMENTS HERHEEHERHEHE"
Did your father anally rape you or is your brutal garbage just giving people brain cancer?
Kayden Brooks
He isn't doing anything but funding all the new tech that is coming out, all he does is hype and try to suck dick for gibs.
Joshua Diaz
>being a faggot is such a part of my identity I literally, LITERALLY, cry rape if someone tells me to tone it down.
Asher Cox
“If we made pencils, the government would still be 40% of our business.”
>>has been given 5 billion in subsidies by the government Wanna know how much GM got in bailouts in 2009 alone?
Jaxson Scott
>breaks down all the time and no one outside the factory has any idea how to fix it. Sounds about right.
Hudson Reyes
>But muh other brands getting bailed out Yeah and they shouldn't. We don't need another car manufacturer to suckle on the tit of America. That tit should be used only by are povish.
Caleb Phillips
you comparing the government bailing out a major employer to help prevent a depression to the government slinging money at a yuppy hipster startup company because they "think green"?
Yet you're selectively critical of Tesla, I wonder why.
>the government slinging money at an irresponsible, embezzling, incompetent car manufacturer because 'muh jerbs' And guess how many jobs Tesla has created. Except they aren't on the verge of falling apart by peddling cars who can't compete with 20 year old Jap shitboxes.
Benjamin Allen
Fuck tesla im getting one of these microcars next week, £200 car, £150 year insurance, £10 tax and a £70 unfailable test
Okay let's talk about Tesla >has plenty of documentation on bad build quality >Massive delays >Pre-Ordering a car that only has one copy (which is now in space) >Ignores that lithium battery production causes more pollution then it negates. >Apple the car.
Liam Lewis
>has plenty of documentation on bad build quality I would like to read those. Every persons I hear about who owns a Tesla say they're hassle free and more reliable than other cars.
>Massive delays And?
>Ignores that lithium battery production causes more pollution then it negates. We're moving on to alternative. You expect it to be instantaneous?
>Apple the car. Not an argument.
Ayden Wilson
>And guess how many jobs Tesla has created almost 1/10th of what GM has and GM only got twice the amount in grants. im not argueing that its a bad product or anything but its a 100k+ car that is purely a luxury and they are getting fucking grants for these pipe dreams that nothing revolutionary has come out of yet. there is no justification for the money they have been given
Dominic Ward
>memeflag >confessed elon dick sucker >confessed that he ignores all sound critiques and supporting data > Proceeds to shill > Claims a conspiracy theory is against Elon's success and not that he's a shit tier business man w/o equally shit tier technical competency Yeah lad, sound thread opener. Finish off your suck session.. I got another brainlet here who says he's next
>Can't into google to find it. Very easy leaf. >Doesn't think massive delays is bad >>Moving on to alternative >An alternative that isn't as energy dense >Doesn't realize how bad Apple products are. You are a shitty consumerist.
also what does panasonic have to do with this? not a car guy
Gavin Diaz
>you'll never make the strongest nation in the world pay for your business to make you money >you'll never cuck 300 million people's future Hurts don't it bitchboy?
Jacob Hernandez
Because the figure you have is bullshit. The 4.9 billions in subsidies was fake new shit paid for by the big three oil lobby. He repaid the loan he received in record time and a large amount of his subsidies accounted for are an estimation for 20 years of tax breaks started 3 years ago.
GM received more than 20 times what Tesla was ever granted in subsidies.
Blake Ramirez
>Doesn't realize how bad Apple products are. What does that have to do with Tesla?
Arguments detected : 0 Estimated IQ : 76
Austin Campbell
>Using IQ on anything but children. kys
Evan Davis
>TFW you save the federal government hundreds of millions in launch costs with your rocket company, paving the way for affordable space exploration yet people are mad that you benefit from the same subsidies everyone in the automobile industry benefits from with your automobile company. >TFW Japan does the same shit >TFW Germany does the same shit >TFW Chinese cars are just shit Ok. >hnnnnggg, people on reddit like this guy therefor I must have a massive irrational hate boner Tesla's are nice cars. The automobile industry is fucked up on a global scale. Elon Musk is an intelligent buisnessman who operates well within the system and gets what he wants.
>GM received more than 20 times what Tesla was ever granted in subsidies. the governemnet was invested into GM and sold its shares after the bailout, had they not invested they would have lost much more. ultimatly they spent a large amount to gain a slight less amount and in the process prevented one of the largest industries in the US from failing
tesla IS STILL getting subsidies from the government/states by tax rebates for every car sold, around 10-12k each that the tax payers have to pay. they have also been given massive grants by eco friendly states. but yeah im sure its fake news paid for by big oil ~lel
Luke Perez
> dick sucking shill thread to try to catch late night anons who weren't aware that elon got btfo in multiple threads earlier today
where the fuck do you people find the time to come up with this shit. i mean i'm just here to scan for news most of the time and i'm amazed at the fucking world some of you retards live in. who gives a fuck? jesus christ
Luke Moore
>Chevy bolt still gets the subsidy >Ford focus EV still gets the subsidy >Nissan leaf still gets the subsidy >Toyota prius prime still gets the subsidy This is acceptable >Tesla gets the same subsidy REEEEE, GET OFF MUH GUBMIT TEAT
Kevin Roberts
doritos motor lol
Julian Sullivan
LOL, where is this picture from? This guy is a walking meme
Small town of Hudson Wi and Stillwater, you see 1-2 a day just a 50square mile range. Maybe you just live in the middle of no where with no Upbeat hipsters wanting to show off their money
