Stop. Fucking. Gambling

Stop. Fucking. Gambling.

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>the Akagi anime skipped a whole match
What the fuck

But user
I don't gamble

>tfw I needed a break from Ten before the 2 player mahjong
>so I started playing mahjong online
>actually learning it
>now I can't stop because going RON feel too god
The meme is real.

ざわざわ

user what is the appeal of mahjong? How is it that engaging?!

ron

There are so many things to take in account you can't get bored. Analyzing opponents discards, counting tiles, attack and defense. Everything is uncertain but at the same time everything can be somewhat rationalized if you take the time to think it through and understand the reasoning that took place behind it. It's endless.

Also because you almost always have a chance at making a comeback and it feels really fucking good so you keep going because maybe you'll pull a bullshit yakuman with your next hand.

I think everyone feels put off because it looks really complicated at first, or at least it was the case for me, but once you get the gist of how it works it becomes really fun, the most notable thing is how you can play trying to min-max every move or just by going with the flow . It really put thing into perspective for me, FKMT characters are playing some six dimensions mahjong. Well barring Kaiji but that was oversemplified mahjong.
I'm a shitter, how is one supposed to read hands by discards? As of now I can single out suits more or less.

I never gambled in my life except for one time that I tries a slot machine and won 60 bucks

How else are they supposed to fit endless Washizu mahjong?

>inb4 washizu hate post

>implying that wasn't

He's addicted

I'm pretty bad too and these are more general tips than hard rules, but for example, if someone discards a mid tile (e.g. 4-sou) late in the game, he might be in Tenpai.

There's another trick using the furiten rule. Take the 1-4-7 sou. If he discarded a 4-sou, there's a low chance he's waiting on a 1 or a 7, because usually people will try to have at least a two-sided wait (eg 2-3 pin waits on 1 or 4). If he's using a two-sided wait for a 1 or a 7, it's either 2-3 or 5-6. But having discarded a 4 earlier (which completes both of these sequences) makes these two sequences furiten, which means he can't win them by ron, so you even if the guy has a 2-3 or a 5-6, as long as he has discarded a 4 earlier, you can deal 1 or 7.
The same reasoning applies for 2-5-8, and 3-6-9.
However, it only works with the middle tiles (4 for 1-4-7) OR the two extremity tiles (1-7 for 1-4-7)

Also, late game discards can tell you stuff about their waits. Taking the same example again, say the guy discards a 4-sou and calls Riichi. There's a decent chance he's waiting on with a 4-5 sou or a 3-4 sou and kept the second 4-sou in his hand that time as a pair (but completed his pair by drawing another tile and didn't need the second 4-sou anymore)

It's not 100% efficient, in fact skilled players know about these things and will sometimes try to fuck with you by waiting on unexpected tiles, but it's good to know.

Would you take your Washizu if he was a little girl?

Damn, Akagi looks like THAT?!

Not that user but thanks for the tips. I always sucked at figuring out what others were doing, and wait-reading.

Are you saying you aren't dazzled?

Thicc

Akagi is a bro.

Why is girl Washizu so sexy?

To be honest I usually just focus on my hand because I'm a lazy fuck, unless someone called Riichi.
If you're interested you can read it up osamuko.com/umaikeiki-defense-guide-betaori-and-suji/

Thanks, it still takes time for me to understand some of the implications of furiten.
Another thing, most of the time I tend to go for Yaku-Pai, Pin-Fu, Tan-Yao or Ittssu if I'm lucky, but I guess this means I can't visualize how to bring a starting hand to an high point one and go instead for cheap hands like a chump. Is there any trick to assess the potential of a hand?

You didn't need to specify girl.

This meme reacher board-level, if we push it another bit it will spread over to other boars.

Check
>number of dora
>number of sequences (eg 234)
>many suits or mostly one?
>number of pairs
>number of terminals (1-9)
>number of honors

Try keeping the doras unless you think you can make a higher value hand by discarding them (eg you have only 1 dora that you have to discard in order to complete a Chin Itsu hand which is worth 5-6 han)

Many doras? Don't let the hand go to waste, if you can't make this hand a killer one, just go for Tanyao or Riichi to get your points.

Lots of sequences and not too many terminals? Your best bet is probably Pinfu Tanyao, with maybe li Peikou. With Riichi, dora, uradora, you can win pretty big, it's a solid hand.

Lots of pairs? Either Chitoitsu (if you have 3-4 pairs at the beginning of the game it's a safe bet) or Toitoi (or better, San Ankou). If you can get a Yakupai with your triplets, Toitoi is a higher win.

Lots of terminals and honors? You might go for a Chanta, or a Hon Itsu if you have mostly one suit.

Lots of one suit without too many terminals? Chin Itsu is 5-6 han, very obvious to pull but you might very well get a Tsumo win if your wait is good enough (which tends to happen as you gather numbered tiles)

Lots of Dragons? PON EVERY FUCKING DRAGON YOU CAN. At worst you'll probably get Shou Sangen (and maybe Hon Itsu or Toitoi), at best you'll get Dai Sengen (yakuman).

Tl;dr: Try to aim for 4-5 hans when you can, not too cheap, not too hard.

Thanks again, saved.

No

Even if after you're completely stomped by kaiji blanco?

Winning or losing doesn't matter. It's all in the thrill of gambling.

Kaiji is so fucking gay

Don't let the fan art skewer your perception of him. Kaiji is most definitely straight.

Super Saiyan God Ichijou can destroy Kaiji Blanco anyday

Kaiji's not definitively anything, the only thing close to relationship he has is Mikoko's one-sided affection.

>Super Saiyan God Ichijou
lost to regular Kaiji

KUYASHI

WELCOME TO MY CASINO PLEASE ENJOY YOUR STAY

Ichijou only lost when Kaiji awakened UG (Ultimate Gamburo) at the last minute though, and Tonegawa was lending him his energy. In a regular match Kaiji would need to go Blanco.

Only after Endou died giving him God ki

>UG (Ultimate Gamburo)
>not US (Ultimate Survivor)

Kaiji is at his strongest when he's at his weakest. No one goes all out on someone they consider a bug

Kazuya was pretty ruthless all the time, barring the very start.

Seeing Akagi and this granny makes me sad he didn't have a family.

KUYASHI!

Why the title change with each part?

>Tobaku Mokujiroku Kaiji (Gambling Apocalypse Kaiji)
Ok
>Tobaku Hakairoku Kaiji, Gambling Heathen Kaiji
??
>Tobaku Datenroku Kaiji, Gambling Outcast Kaiji

Is it some kind of character development going on

Kazuya is Kaiji's only opponent so far that has actually respected him. He's also the only villain so far that I've actually wanted to see redeemed in some form.

>Is it some kind of character development going on
yes

give it a few more parts and he'll actually go blanco

Who wouldn't respect Kaiji after the 4D Mahjong shit he pulled? That's almost Akagi tier.

I shouldn't be laughing at this so much.

Maybe one day Kaiji will make peace with the fact he needs to gamble to be happy. He already make a conscious step in that direction the moment he took on Kazuya without a second thought.

Why does that post crack me up with the filename?

Because that's an actual line, just one part later

>he needs to gamble to be happy
To me it seems his gambling is detrimental to his happiness. Like any addiction, it became is everything and there's no Kaiji besides his desperation for 'just one more' gamble. The cycle he's stuck in is a sad but real thing
I'd love to see an ending where he gets support to overcome his gambling and does more shitty little jobs until getting his life together, but if he goes out in a blaze of glory or something, that would be good too.

Wow, its been a while. Thanks for the context.

It's still shallow but I feel like he's starting to understand that.
Kaiji is a lot sharper now so he might actually find a way to get his life back on tracks. Or go all guns blazing for a true FKMT ending

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I don't think Kaiji would ever be able to settle down for a normal life. On the other hand I can't see him dying or giving himself up in a heroic gamble or something. If the VS Teia arc ever happens as the final one, I'm betting (get it) on Kaiji bringing down everything with him, but he will get nothing out of it.

>betting on it

How can he write so many compelling characters?

He's writing from age and experience. FKMT is a working man.

i'd watch a kaiji spanish dub

No can do, boss.

This is now a kekegurui thread

it's said that the more common yaku are Yakuhai (triple of seat/round wind or any of the 3 dragons), Tan Yao (hand uses only numbered tiles from 2 to 8, so no 1 or 9 tiles, and no honor -- wind or dragon -- tiles), Pin Fu (hand is closed, has only sequences -- no triples --, wait is an open sequence -- no 12 waiting on 3, no 89 waiting on 7, no sequences like 24 waiting on middle tiles like 3 --, pair isn't a seat/round wind or a dragon tile) and Riichi (declare riichi when reaching tenpai -- when your hand is waiting on one more tile to be complete).

Besides looking for yaku potential, you also have the option to build up fu points (through closed triples -- worth 4 fu if they're Tanyao tiles, meaning, numbered tiles from 2 to 8, worth 8 fu if they aren't -- and closed kans -- worth 16 fu if they're Tanyao tiles, worth 32 if they aren't). But I think that efficiency (getting to tenpai asap) should take priority (like one article said, speed beats everything else, because the other players can't score points if you win your hand before they do), but keep in mind that if your hand takes too long to advance (for example, you see an opponent calling two or three times, or you see an opponent discard an end tile which normally is saved as a leftover defensive tile to discard when someone would declare riichi), it might be too risky to continue pushing for a win, so it could be better to fold for that round and not deal into anyone's hand. However, depending on your hand's worth (and the table's situation, for example, you're last in the last round and need to attack no matter what), it might be a good idea to push still (since the risk/reward relation looks balanced. Better even if the opponents have low scoring hands or bad waits.)

I
WANT
MORE
ZERO

Maybe once he finishes Akagi.

i do wish part 1 went on longer. what do you think happened to shirube?

went to the hospital to reattach his mouth for 3 millions

f*ck off

lmao kaijifags are fucking pathetic

>chad meme
Go with him.

Did someone really made this unironically ?
ahahahahhaa fucking kaijicuckolds

Are the 1st and 2nd parts of the manga faithfully adapted via the anime? I would like to move onto part 3 after I'm done with the second season, but if there are manga exclusive elements to the aforementioned parts then I don't mind reading them.

There's nothing that the manga has that adds to it. It's got a few scenes the anime doesn't have that are a little humorous or interesting, but nothing meaningful. Overall it was a very faithful adaptation.

For the most part, yes. I think there was a little background they cut out of S2, but you can always go back, it's nothing major.

Boobs are life, Keijo is hometown

This reminds me of Washizu, who's reached the peak of success, and like Akagi, they need something to excite them; two people in different social standings, same paths.
Seeing Akagi say this about himself, kind of makes me worried about Hiroyuki, who even if he doesn't seem addicted like Kaiji, can't truly feel happy if he's not pursuing intense games and trying to become as good as Ten and Akagi.

Part 2 has a few nice extra scenes, but I'd move on to part 3 and reread Part 2 later

The difference is Hiroyuki exercised his self-awareness and self control by realizing that even if he was decent, he wasn't evenly matched with the likes of Akagi or Ten. The fact that he quit all of that and started a real career showed he had his shit together

I don't think Hiroyuki plays to be as good as Ten/Akagi, it's more like his inferiority complex made him doubt himself and he chose a safer, "proper" path. He folded.

it's kind of ironic to me how it was Ten who (unknowingly) made him feel like he should give up playing, and 9 years later, it was Akagi who made him change his mind.

Except when you play Akagi or Kaiji you lose blood or freedom, not 1% of daddy's bank card.

also, it's interesting to me that Harada unknowingly served as an example of what Hiroyuki could've turned into, if he followed the path of living for the sake of your own success.

Did things get better for Harada? He deserved it.

I really want an Akagi/Kakegurui crossover where Akagi beats Yumeko, takes 110% of her savings and then tosses it all away.

I presume Harada's plan to abduct Akagi would've ended in lewd

Can you imagine Yumeko actually losing her fingers or some similar shit? You think she'd still have that kooky smug face?

What, with the artist's blatant fingernail fetish? No way.

no

>not money matching in real life
>not feeling the sands of hell shift in your favor
>not hearing your opponents say "please end it already" when you've gone into 5+ renchan
>not continuing the Teru/Terror Time regardless of their pleas

But that is his superpower user

What if Kaiji had won the tissue box bet against Teiai?
I mean he was kinda pretty close.

He would've got 100 mil and then somehow loss it all the next ep.

Kaiji should have taken the money and left instead of betting it all on a crappy tissue box gamble he planned on cheating in.

Kaiji is actually retarded for assuming Teiei weren't watching him in the toilet the whole time and listening to every word he was saying.

Him smashing his ear in there earlier proven that the bathroom wasn't bugged.

Unless you know, Hyoudou was bullshitting and he knew the whole time as evidenced by him knowing the exact location of the tissue.

He could feel where it was, though. He didn't have to bug the bathroom for that.

Weren't all the boxes rigged though? Unless you mean the location of the paper piece, and that was easy to deduce without surveillance.