Why the fuck do harem shows even exist?

Why don't Japs want to self-insert as someone who actually HAS a girlfriend? Why do they prefer getting blue-balled 24/7? Instead of the MC having multiple generic girls he NEVER gets with, why not have one amazing girl he DOES get with? Why don't we get more shit like Rakudai Kishi, or Monogatari? Why don't nips like having closure in their ships?

more girls = more appeal for waifufags

It lets the self-inserters choose. Are you this retarded?

because why have 1 cute girlfriend when you can have many cute girlfriends

The aim of such shows is to try to cater to as many different people as possible, hence all the different girls.

Just watch these movies about teenage lovers.

Harems are for delusional otaku and will always be the same because they dream about well... having a harem.

People who watch harems (or at least the ones who self insert and take them too seriously) want the feeling of being desired and fought over by girls, not just simple sexual satisfaction from picking one and fucking her. That's what porn is for.

Emotional depth outside of edge and the trials of youth make immature wageslaves uncomfortable.

Because none is his girlfriend.

Why not just make a girl that has all the traits, making her the ultimate perfect waifu?

This. Also, Stella is shit.

Because male instinct is to impregnate many females.

Well then, just make her a triplet.

But if you can do that, why not also give 4 other girls triplets too.

they're all his girlfriend, hes literally fucking them all too

...

Because they're not ultimate waifus that have all the best traits in one girl.

>Why don't Japs want to self-insert as someone who actually HAS a girlfriend?

Even anime can't make that believable.

They can be in a fictional anime.

But that would make them dodekatuplets.
Even the manliest chads of chads cannot fuck this many girls at once, can he?

Oh wait, Genghis Khan existed. Okay, carry on.

Again, they can in fiction.

But actually I'm gonna have to take this argument back a few posts to when you said.
>Why not just make a girl that has all the traits, making her the ultimate perfect waifu?
Not only is it part of male instinct to want to impregnate lots of females, but like that guy said harems also try to appeal to lots of different tastes. And you can't just combine every "good" trait because it's all subjective and everybody has different favorites. A girl can't be flat and busty at the same time. She can't be tall and short, have every hair color, every eye color, every hair style, every personality and everything else all at once. No one girl can appeal to everyone.

Just superimpose all the girls in one position upon each another. Alternate the frames each second, so that he is being shown fucking all the girls in some weird quantum state.

Not only would that be a massive amount of work all for a result that most people probably wouldn't even enjoy, but it's going against your original idea of having "one perfect girl".

But it would be like one perfect girl with all the best traits.
And since it's best multiframe girl, no expenses should be spared to show her in all her epileptic spasm-causing glory.

I stand by all my points in my previous post.

Also, give each girl a voice actress, but make them all talk at the same time, overlayed on top of each other's voices. Also, make one of them a trap, so that every tenth of a second, the MC is sounding some cute boy, only to go back to normal penetration almost instantly.

Sacrifices have to be made.

Truly perfection.

MC is cool sometimes and gets bitches

Not him but taste is subjective. THE perfect girl does not exist. YOUR perfect girl could exist, MY perfect girl could exit, any user's perfect girl could exist, but there is no end all THE perfect girl.

Guys are natural polygamists and want variety

Chose? I take them all because I have a big heart.

If none of the girls individually can fill your entire heart, then they're all shit.

Instead of trying to craft the one perfect girl they craft many good girls embodying all sorts of different archetypes to try and hit the mark for someone. It's hard to make the perfect girl and especially hard to make the perfect girl that everyone can agree is best.

>No one girl can appeal to everyone.

Says you.

>Why don't we get more shit like Rakudai Kishi, or Monogatari?

Romance for a guy is 50% sexual lust

>Why don't we get more shit like Rakudai Kishi, or Monogatari?

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rakudai Kishi or Monogatari...

Woah, you can hate waifu fags as much as you want, but you can't hate on Stella.

I dropped the show because of her.

They want their show appeal to wider audience, but unfortunately it will create something like megumifag, eriri-fag and utahafag.

Is that wrong?

why?

I picked up the show because of her

It aired almost 2 years ago. I don't really remember anything about it other than dropping because of her.

I think based on every asterik vs rakudai debate, people hates her because she drop her tsun too fast when compared to pink houki

Tsun is fucking awful though. It's literally the obstacle standing in the way of the dere. People who like tsun are nothing but masochists.

Also easier to write, when they run out of simple ideas with the current characters, just add a new one. Then more content when they need to eliminate them..

The harder the tsun the softer the dere.

Because she's a disgusting slut, and everyone agreed that Kirin was best of the two shows.

>Why don't Japs want to self-insert as someone who actually HAS a girlfriend?

By that point, they can't relate anymore

The escapist fantasy isn't about getting sex, (which porn is for), the fantasy is about being desired and having the OPPORTUNITIES in life to bang.

Also if the MC hooks up then the harem genre gets deconstructed. For an excellent deconstruction of harems, see School Days. In which the question of "why doesn't the MC just fuck these chicks who are blindly attached to him?" goes to it's natural conclusion

idk, I watched Oreimo, and the tsun hit my like a truck. The dere did not feel worth it afterwards, even in S2. I prefer my tsuderes leaning towards dere, like Rin.

So an MC who does have a girlfriend can't be a self insert?

Because nips know that dating sims/ VNs are very popular, and their formula can be "remixed" with relative ease. Take away the player's agency, replace it with a faggot MC who either has no personality beyond being "nice" or who is an actual otaku/NEET to really live the dream. The best thing of choosing the latter option is that you can get meta and make half-assed jokes and commentary about the industry, yet ultimately repeat the same contrived bullshit as your predecessors without adding any significant insight to the conversation because we need to sell those BDs.

The personality for all of the girls has been extensively documented; it's as simple as choosing an archetype. Give them a cute design and watch the losers gobble your shit up.

Harems ends best end

I hate it too, especially In harem shows.
If MC can't tame tsundere it becomes annoyance for MC relationship with other girls
see Louise
Ah I forgot about purityfag, eventhough she only want one man.
Also I agree Kirin that is the best, but unfortunately pink houki prevent her to end up with MC

>liking consolation prize ends

You don't need relationships with other girls when you have a tsundere. and Louise was an angel.

Tsun needs to be done right. You can't just have her hate the MC for some stupid reason and make it work it needs to have a solid base and good development.

Wanna know how I can tell you're a virgin?

>not liking true end where all the girls are developed and in a happy, harmonious relationship with the mc.

It takes a skilled writer to pull it off and it's much better than having to endure bullshit drama as everyone else get rejected. The other girls should have their own love interest if the author is too incompetent to make the harem work.

Unfortunately for you, 99% of authors are incompetent and there has never been a well done harem ending.

How?

I've seen a few, although none from mangas or anime because Japan can't see past monogamy despite making amazing contexts for proper harems.

As always western literature reign supreme.

To me Magika is the best harem end I've ever read

Haremshit is the most basic form of wish-fulfillment designed to appeal only to the lowest common denominator. With multiple girls, everyone watching can pick a favorite to fixate on, it's not as risky as putting all your eggs in one basket by fleshing out just one girl. And the endless blueballing means that the blank and boring (for the purposes of self-insertion) MC remains relatable to viewers, rather than becoming someone they're jealous of.

I'm watching Rakudai, and it's definitely my AOTY right now. The battles are fun, main girl is hot as fuck, and there's an actual relationship that actually goes places. 10/10, probably one of my top 10 animes of all time.

Nips take it even 1 step beyond. They add boys to their harems.
2 bombs weren't enough

Watch better harems, like ZnT.

>Draw a girl
>Call it a boy
>Throw it in with your other truckload of forgettable archetypes vying for the boring MCs dick
why do you care

>It aired almost 2 years ago
Wait, it wasn't like 2 seasons ago?

>flower eyes
Patrician as fuck

In Louise case, wasn't it more she wasn't able to tame Saito (keep him from flirting with other girls)?

>Season 4 for hs dxd is coming.

gee idk why op

It happened eventually. I bet he never looked at another girl after this.

She's quite sucessfull actually, Yes she can't prevent saito to flirt with other girls but she manages to prevent harem to happen

Her one flaw.

The harem end was prevented because Saito only loved Louise and none of the other girls. He felt lust towards them but he never loved any of the others.The ending we got is the only one that was ever possible.

Why even introduce other girls as potential love interest in the first place?

To create conflict, I guess? You can ask the same for any show that has more than 1 love interest but the winner is made obvious from the very beginning.

Who told they include many girls for the MC sake ? They are there dor audience sake to choose their own waifu, also some people prefer harem over romances and lastly :

Only idiot would choose when can take them all

>wanting to take shit

What you as shit other's might find attractive

>dropped show because of a girl

beta male spotted

Because harem anime gives you multiple ideal women, as written by Japanese men, to suit your taste, and they all have in common their unconditional devotion and love to the MC while operating as a team/family having adventures. It makes real relationships and your life look so bleak in comparison that it hooks you in. Isekai operate under that same principle of showing the audience a fantastical alternative to the mundane and limited option in this reality.

One of my top gripes about harem rom coms where the guy already chose a girl but the "harem" still exists. (eg Sword Art Online)

Good harem anime can, bad ones give them then take them away later. The bad ones would be better by spending time on one and not even giving any others as an option.

>Only idiot would choose when can take them all
Would you rather have and eat a single flavor of pie, or have multiple different pies, but you can only look at and smell them from afar?

Because harem anime is not really romance.

Well that's the good thing about harem that get the family dynamic right. You can't really neglect them. as each member is integral to advancing the plot while going through character development.

That's what I find to be more underappreciated aspect of harem: not waifus or the prospect of reverse gang bangs but Japan pulling off a genre where is polygamy the ideal family unit full of healthy non-toxic relationships between characters.

>Japan pulling off a genre where is polygamy the ideal family unit full of healthy non-toxic relationships between characters.

Pretty much that. A single man can give several women children so it's perfectly natural to end up this way, people whining otherwise are jealous.

Why wouldn't someone want the girl they like the best to win?

and with the added bonus of them being virgins.

True, it's why I like Tenchi. In many shows, the harem is just a means to an end.

Just watch romance series instead of harems, I don't see what's so hard about that.

>beta male spotted
me

>Monogatari
>closure in their ships
Argument invalidated.

Monogatari is pure haremshit.

>why not have one amazing girl he DOES get with
Because your opinion of what makes a girl amazing and other peoples' opinion differs wildly, and what you consider good might others consider shit.

With a harem there's a greater chance for everyone to find a girl he likes.

Maybe im fucked in the head but I dont like sex that much. Getting blue balled and jerking off to it alone is much better.

you know that Rakudai is a year old (if not more)