Something interesting about the most recent decade is that this seems to be the first time in history citizens seem to be demanding that their governments turn over all of their intelligence to the public before they will believe the conclusions.
What happened?
Even 20 years ago, if someone was saying that the government is lying about recent major news events and demanding the government turn over all of their evidence to third parties before they will be believed; they would have been considered insane tin-foil extremists. Now, tons of people refuse to believe school shootings happened until the police turn over all of the evidence, or refuse to believe in assassinations happened until the government turns over all of its evidence.
Can you imagine what a mentality like that would have done during the Cold War? "Oh, you think Aldrich Ames is a spy? WHERE ARE THE PROOFS!" Or hell, how such people would have been treated during McCarthy?
Imagine what the world would be like if 200 years ago U.S. citizens refused to believe the Boston Massacre happened and called it a false flag?
I'm not saying false flags don't happen, I'm asking why people in the West don't seem to believe anything is real anymore until it's proven to them personally (and even then, people increasingly argue the evidence itself is fake). Is this the end result of post-modernism?
It seems every single government in the western world has lost the faith of its citizens, with the possible exception of Russia
Easton Fisher
Its the emergence of fake news. People literally dont know what to believe anymore because of the amount of shit being peddled from every side of the fight.
Wyatt Ward
Well what happens next?
This can't continue forever or it will result in the total breakdown of society.
It's only a matter of time before western countries turn Africa tier where the citizens refuse to believe their leaders legitimately won elections and use guns and bombs to take them out... which results in the other side using guns and bombs on those people... etc forever.
Justin Diaz
The internet and citizen journalism proved to the masses just how much they were being lied to, and many are pissed off about it.
Yuri Bezmenov will explain, but blame Sadiq, all Theresas, and Adolfina (((Merkel)))
Cameron Bennett
Again, see
Bentley Phillips
> reddit: happy > Sup Forums: bitter and angsty Really makes one think
Bentley Kelly
Never understood why the brits didn't execute that nigger. Maybe you don't have capital punishment? But can't your queen order her guards to run him through with spears or something?
>I'm asking why people in the West don't seem to believe anything is real anymore until it's proven to them personally Look up Bowling Alone
Diversity destroys trust in institutions.
Austin Walker
Really makes you think how blue pilled sjws are, yeah.
Ayden Rogers
Fascism has the exact same problem, a vast majority of the citizens will refuse to believe the government, and then take it into their own hands to kill the leaders.
It would be a civil war that never ends except for brief periods where one party has nearly exterminated all people they disagree with (likely having been nearly exterminated themselves), only to flare up again 10-20 years later.
Luke Scott
Jews want this as much as we do, they thrive in chaos, when it pops off keep your focus on not getting kiked, traps and counter contingencies will be everywhere.
theres only a couple of states in the USA prepared to execute prisoners now so STFU
Grayson Wright
Additionally, how the heck is fascism, a highly organized and tightly controlled movement, supposed to organize in the first place when no one believes anyone else?
The alt-right still can't coalesce around a single leader, instead most people just call all would-be leaders shills or controlled opposition.
At this rate, it's just gonna burn out exactly like Occupy Wall Street with no one trusting anyone willing to stand in front of a microphone, but at the same time refusing to take any action until someone else does.
Elijah Lewis
>Is this the end result of post-modernism? Yes, it is the jews who caused this.
Ryder Cox
>I'm asking why people in the West don't seem to believe anything is real anymore It was because of this. You can believe me or not. But you can't get trust back after that. Not without complete purges of everyone working around the people who thought that was a good idea. And we never got that. We never even got an apology. Just tripled down on lies, and extended them. Used them to enact even more liberty killing legislation. So no, I will tear down every single piece of propaganda you chucklefucks put out. Every one.
The internet, and with it, a taste of true freedom.
Brody Miller
Yup, violence is the purest form of control. It won't end until one side either dies off or gets tired of fighting.
That's kind of how all wars go. Don't know if you've noticed, but kikes thrive in all conditions, especially chaos, because they almost always work together and protect/support each-other.
The only times they don't thrive is when a larger opposing force works together to specifically target them.
Yes. Colin Powell's yellow cake speech was the flashpoint for loss of faith. The reverberations weren't entirely noticeable until after smith-mundt modernization.
Eli Evans
Doubtful. After the OWS debacle people could go back to some sort of comfort. Now there's no escaping the kikes and niggers ruining everything for everybody.
Aiden Morgan
>why people in the West don't seem to believe anything is real anymore until it's proven to them personally Yellow Cake Syrian Sarin The 2016 Election
Just to name some of the most obvious ones
Brandon Evans
This. People in white enclaves (shitlibs) rabidly trust the kike media. People living in diversity hell trust nothing and nobody. The only reason they aren't outwardly redpilled is they don't even trust other whites not to rat them out.
Jeremiah Baker
that pack of Camels on the left. I want to avoid smoking, but I sometimes buy a pack after work, when I'm stressed for a reason.
Cooper Collins
unironically this
Dominic Carter
>but kikes thrive in all conditions, especially chaos They fail in chaos. Hard.
Adrian Morgan
because its not our government and plus it had lied too often and too blatant
Ayden Morgan
Pretty sure that's the exact opposite of history.
If there's one truth about War, it's that Jews and capitalists always come out stronger than they were before the war.
>If there's one truth about War War isn't chaos, that shit is a fucking ballet.
John Kelly
If you want to see true chaos: analyze the 2016 election, starting from April 2015.
Logan Torres
If that's your argument, then the Jews won big time with Trump. He's the most pro-Jew president we've ever had.
Hudson Long
>Imagine what the world would be like if 200 years ago U.S. citizens refused to believe the Boston Massacre happened and called it a false flag?
The "Boston massacre" as known WAS basically a fabrication.A mob of drunken Irish assholes subjected a British sentry to hours of provocation befiore being ordered repeatedly to disperse and the Riot Act being read. They escalated the situation until the British had absolutely no option but to open fire and like three of them were killed. It was bullshit. They fucking deserved it yet the incident was hyped up as an appalling massacre when it was lawful application of justice against an insurrectionist mob who had been warned repeatedly what was going to happen. There were no police in those days.
Cooper Powell
>He's the most pro-Jew president we've ever had. More pro-jew than the president who created Israel? Interedasting.
Josiah Cox
This right here goy.
If you go back to even near history (Nariya lying to start the Gulf War in Congress, Cheney, Rusfeld, Rice, Colon Bowel lying their ass off) Kerry and now Drumph repeating the same tired lies about Syria.
Go back and you see that government never tells the truth. you would literally have to be disturbed or brainwashed to believe government, about anything.
Nigger if some Pajeets chopped a human head off on the street, the blood would flow like Niagara falls, the street would be stained for yards and yards of horrible bloodflow.
>No blood whatsoever.
Because it's more staged retardation for the sheeple.
Internet + 9/11 happened. THEY committed the most brazen of casus belli false-flag attacks ever, and the ensuing public discussion of it dredged up all the old less-brazen examples. The internet gave these ideas, and the generalized distrust behind them, a difficult-to-censor platform to live and breed on.
Can't lose what you never had. Russia has always been essentially an anarchic failed state. They went from feudalism right into communism and then back to neo-feudalism. Russian people are true serfs, with a serf mentality - 'don't think about it, do as you're told, minimize harm by minimizing exposure'.
Henry Perez
You've answered your own question. Total breakdown of society. You're witnessing it. "Columbine every day becomes 9/11 every day."
Daniel Green
And the trust is lost for good reason: because it was squandered in the first place
I saved this cap so maybe it could help people like you gain some perspective on the role the people and the government play.
Right now, governments are being run by bureaucrats that forget the people still actually matter. You can't just snap your fingers and have a war, even the old monarchies and nobility who played at war knew that. Modern western governments have so much contempt for their people it's fucking incredible, and then they expect everyone to jump at their beck and call after being disrespected so much
it doesn't have the allure of cigs, but you still get the nicotine high and can control it better, and there's no associated problems from inhaling the soot
>The alt-right still can't coalesce around a single leader, instead most people just call all would-be leaders shills or controlled opposition That's because there's no such thing as an "alt-right", it's 100% controlled opposition and it IS being shilled. OPPOSITION TO THE GLOBALIST AGENDA IS NORMAL YOU DON'T NEED A CRINGY LABEL YOU FUCK
Parker Johnson
Nah the moment one side’s wins it has again control over the narrative. Failing and losing again the faith of the populous would only again start internal strife.
It's laughable to think that anyone ever had "control of the narrative". Nobody's EVER had control "of the narrative". It's inherently decentralized. That's why even the mother fucking Catholic Church spent centuries purging one heresy after another, never-ending, even though they literally owned EDUCATION and the Media of the time. You simply can't stop peasants from sitting down over drinks and holding their own discussions.
The internet basically fed those small discussions crack, meth, and steroids until you got basically Sup Forums: almost entirely unrestricted shitposting.
We are still considered tin-foils. But when you show the boomer retards just how far we have gotten in media technology they sprt of get scared. They should. We have perfected propaganda to the point where the average individual (even the trained individual) can't tell the difference between a disinfo agent/shill and the real deal. One couldeven say that realityis being supressed because it is too harful for the social labrats that are the commoners of this world. I genuinely believe they even script global events.
Alexander Reed
Yes but even with agitation the system itself has to fail the masses first to mobilize true opposition. That is why we are still in the roaring twenty phase of Weimar. To go to the next stage there needs to be economic instability. If the depression would never had hit at the time it did Weimar might had survived way beyond the 40s even though it had active agitators. The absolute failing of the elites only makes people move when they have loosed enough that further waiting has a higher chance of losing more than fighting. That is also why the cultural Marxist in their critic of culture attacked the family unit. The family unit takes out an unbelievable amount of social dynamic from this equation. The people might be agitated by failings but it will take those more to move. That is at least the thinking behind the revolution that never happened from the position of the modern left.
Sebastian James
l know some of lee's family. I wish it wasn't true :(
Brandon Reyes
WMD Iraq happened. The blowback from that faked pretended for an illegal war is actually partly responsible for this entire weird period we are in. Trump, Brexit, etc it’s all somewhat connected to aftershocks of WMD and the 45 minute claim
Leo Mitchell
Is this thread for real? Am I reading this right? The OP is stating that people should believe the gov. without question. Not doing so results in anarchy. Well I don't know about Europe, but over here in the US the LACK of a serious distrust of the Gov has almost destroyed us. Our founders said: Always question the government. Always. They will lie, cheat, and kill you when they can. The government belongs to us. We do not belong to the government.
>I'm asking why people in the West don't seem to believe anything is real anymore until it's proven to them personally Because the media is a cancer that would rather run a successful front page story than inform and stay objective. >inb4 muh freeh market etc I know they can do what they want in the end but they're really not fucking helping right now. Most of them being owned by a small group of people doesnt fucking help. The media definitely needs to learn to regain the publics trust again.
Adrian Powell
No way the UK government would ever stage this.
If they were going to do something it would be a false-flag attack by whites against Muslims. How dumb do you have to be to believe they faked this? Most pro-Muslim government in the West.
