Why did the first great civilisations start outside of Europe? Ancient Sumerians had algebra, geometry, philosophy, art, and so on, while Europeans were grunting cave men.
Why did the first great civilisations start outside of Europe? Ancient Sumerians had algebra, geometry, philosophy, art...
Asher Morris
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Aaron Jenkins
Religions founded in fertile lands start civilizations.
Carter Morris
>Why did the first great civilisations start outside of Europe?
better environment for agriculture, which is a precursor to building cities
after technology gets better agriculture can spread to more harsh environments
Ayden Adams
Simple. We wuz Sumerians.
Adrian Nguyen
there was an ancient globe spanning civilization that existed 12'800~ years ago, the sumerians were the first civilization to recover from the cataclysm that wiped them out
Landon Thomas
Interesting. You wouldn't make that argument for why sub-saharan blacks are so backward, though, would you?
Leo Murphy
Who told you about this?
Brody Sanchez
This. Once Christianity was invented. It allowed the world government to move to Europe.
Charles Morgan
Earth is Europe.
Robert Thomas
spirituality is natural, religions are not
Josiah Perry
Yes Europe is shit. Please go back to musulmania.
Alexander Moore
Sub-Saharan Africans are a different story. The problem there isn't "Why didn't they develop civilization several thousand years ago instead of a couple thousand years ago?" it's "Why can't those stupid niggers provide basic maintenance to civilization in the current year?" See, this isn't a matter of "who did it first" it's a matter of "how have they still not done this after just about everyone else has?"
Mason Roberts
Nobody, he's spouting pseudo-history and pseudo-archeology, the type of shit Joe Rogan believes in.
Leo Gray
We wuz sumerians we wuz Egyptians moving pyramids we wuz ancient mages in southern Russia fighting giants we wuz aliens in Antarctica building ufos n shiet
Christian Hernandez
complete takedown of the nonsense theory that humans begun civilisation in Europe because they had to fend for themselves and ration food.
Where food grew plentiful it became a commodity, which was sold, traded between tribes enabling diplomacy etc so we stopped murdering each other thus civilisation
Joseph Brooks
It came initially from reading the works of Graham Hancock, look in to his books and presentations and see what you think. There is a lot of evidence supporting the idea that at the very least ancient humans were more intelligent and advanced than we give them credit for. Whilst they may not have been as technologically advanced as we are today they weren't total knuckle dragging retards.
what's a Joe organ?
Juan Cruz
>brainlet non-whites don't into climate
Aiden Johnson
Wh*tes just appropriated sand people and indian tech and culture
Nolan King
What's so great about society, exactly? We aren't made to live in society, and it really, truly shows. Tribal living is how we should have stayed.
Nicholas Cox
>Joe organ?
Joe Rogan is an american comedian with the worlds most famous podcast, he has cranks like Graham Hancock on his podcast regularly.
Nicholas Miller
Because it was cold as fuck in winter in Europe with people starving from cold and hunger..
in those conditions it's hard to build a city, let alone a civilization.
Benjamin Lee
hes slowly becoming smarter and more self aware. He doesn't believe that the moon landing is was a hoax anymore at least
Camden Nguyen
because 90 % of sub sahara is arid useless land (It's not like most of pol's fantasy the land of milk and honey )
t. former expat
Nolan Jenkins
depends if you think things like smartphones truly make are lives more comfortable
Caleb Gray
re pic: women built that
Nathan Miller
Pretending for a moment that this is true, that doesn't really change the basic premise of the question, just its specifics:
IF there was a globe spanning cataclysm 12,800 years ago, why did the first civilizations that emerged after it spring up outside of Europe?
Jack Taylor
I know that, but the typical Sup Forumstard will say sub-Saharan Africa never did anything because blacks are subhuman. When the fact Europeans were very late to civilization crops up, the general Sup Forumstard resorts to geography and environment as an explanation.
Asher Harris
because people dying of polio, measles, colds, having rotten teeth and cannibalism are great
hurray for tribal living !
Daniel James
I would assume because they had some sort of access to the knowledge the previous civilization left behind
Christopher Edwards
All the space ports were in that area.
Luis Watson
probably less stress though. You wouldn't have to work as much and you would be able to develop a good social life within your band. The agricultural revolution came to fast.
Bentley Cooper
>Why did the first great civilisations start outside of Europe?
white flight has been going on longer than you imagine.
Samuel Murphy
Better late than never.
Hudson Lopez
Because climate. Europe was mainly forest with huge trees. Soil massively acidic due to centuries of fallen leaves. No way to easily cut down trees with stone tools. Really cold winters. Of course civilization started somewhere else.
Zachary Collins
Civilization requires slaves, and Europeans wouldn't enslaves eachother. Hence, they expanded until they discovered people so savage, they wouldn't mind putting in chains
Nicholas Baker
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Ian Jones
tribal living? i hope this is a shitpost because it’s cringy as fuck..
Brody Cruz
And what good did it do for Sumeria? Where is Sumeria now lil bitch nigga? I bet if Sumerians were still around, you'd be importing them en masse, letting them roll around on their war carts and rape your underage daughters.
Austin Perez
Europeans are the original China man in the sense of copying shit from others.
Fan fact: coffee and guitar was invited by Muslims, you could say they're the original hipster before hipsters.
Cooper Cruz
farming start there, which leads to more people joining together, which leads to cities
Ian Anderson
they dug up bog people in the marshes here (picture related, they are thousands of years old)
they all showed signs of a hard life, malnutrition, worn out bones etc..
due to the acid and lack of oxygen in the swamps those corpse are perfectly preserved. this guy is 5000 years old.
Matthew Campbell
Coffee originates from and was originally brewed in Ethiopia, which has always been Christian-majority since Christianity first reached there.
Jackson Gonzalez
>Blah blah blah muslims invented everything meme
If they know all, then why are they barbarians that hate fun and cover their moderately attractive women with garbage bags?
Parker Davis
>Grunting cave men
I can tell you still are.
Yes Civilization started in Mesopotamia. And then it spread. But it only spread in the south because...
Trade routes you retard. The Mediterranean allowed people to learn from each other as they traveled from coast to coast. The celts and Germanics didnt have that luxury so remained small tribal villages until Rome brought knowledge North. Then when the Hun came from the east, it forced the Germanics to spread west and south, displacing the Celts and Latins.
Then after a few hundred years something horrible, and wonderful happened. The Plague killed half of the population. Luckily it killed the stupid half. So the Germanics that remained were of higher intelligence, and we had the Renaissance, Followed by world conquest with colonialism.
Hard times make strong men.
Nathaniel Cruz
1. Oldest known written language is from Greece (Europe) called the Disipilio tablet which is older than Summeria
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Noah Baker
Why is OP shareBlue
Carter Turner
More people really should watch Ancient Aliens.
Julian Peterson
if you wanna know that you gotta find out where it comes from
Dylan Wright
Adam and Eve were 35kBC, but before them from 500k-200k there was great civilization development.
Adrian Gray
Niggers are not human I am disgusted
Michael Mitchell
There was advanced civilization around the world before sumer. Between 11,500-10,500BC catastrophes occurred as the earth passed through a debris field known today as the taurids twice a year, often causing meteor showers of large rocks that would case catastrophes.
The first impacts were absolutely massive and caused an immediate melt off of the north american ice sheet, the cold water flooding the ocean then stopped the gulf current leading to a massive drop in temperature. The next 1,000 years were marked by regular, yearly meteor shows causing destruction, volcanic eruptions, floods, earthquakes and a variety of other catastrophes due to famine, climate change and migration of people spreading disease. The human population was on the brink of extinction and most of the settled areas along rivers/coast lines were under water, virtually everyone was a refuge. This became encoded into myths world wide and the dates we pass through the taurid meteor stream each year has become memorialized as a day of the dead and the day spirits roam (oct 31-nov4)
The survivors of this catastrophe from the more advanced civilizations attempted to restart civilization in numerous places around 10,500BC.
One of these sites was in Anatolia at the location of Gobekli Tepe however most of the survivors rebuilt along the danube and the black sea. As their population grew, they expanded from the Danube to conquer the rest of the world and establish civilizations along other major river systems (the tigris &euphrates, the nile, the indus, the yangtze, the rhine). These survivors were tall, fair skinned with a variety of hair and eye color but red hair and green eyes were quite common. They had composite bows, bronze metal working, and stirrups with domesticated horses making them an unstoppable force in combat for the primitive tribes they encountered. These tribes all incorporated/adapted the Danube survivors religion/language to their own.
Jayden Morales
the Egyptian lineage was direct descendent of the line of Adam. Europe is also of the line of Adam.
Hudson Stewart
Because letting your qts and future kids mom ran train on all the ice hockey team is liberating and empowering. Nigg a please
Landon Lewis
The people we call "Europeans" were not originally confined to Europe. Even parts of Africa used to be white at one time.
Jonathan Thomas
Do you even wikipedia?
Hunter Smith
Why are you posting? Isn't it time to pray again?
Leo Ortiz
Shut up OP i dont care white people won cause shit skins fucked up. Can we please just move on.
Austin Flores
>This
The very first constructions build by men (that later found society) were for religious purposes.
Andrew King
in europe it was to cold at that times
in eqypt for example they had climate like europe has today
Dylan Reed
The human race is an illusion.
Elijah Thomas
He has definitely improved a lot.
Samuel Lee
could be.. but even if they had a high IQ in sub Saharan Africa they still would not be able to build a decent civilization
I once drove once 12 hours from one city to another... And for 12 hours straight I saw nothing but this...
And yes there are other areas in Africa. I've seen those as well.
Problem there is that it's so extreme human that your fruit literally rots away in hours and it's full of fungus and bugs that kills your crops and plants..(not even talking about malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever and a thousand other fevers)
Benjamin Turner
All these things are examples of the outcome from living in agricultural societies.
Austin Harris
*humid
Adrian Bell
Climates, climate change.
Look them up nigger.
Matthew Nelson
Because wheat was indigenous to the fertile crescent.
Aiden Ward
The spread of the danube culture can be traced through the spread of the proto indo european language as well as the similarity in the myths of the polytheistic cultures they created in their wake with virtually all gods from each culture having a mirror by a different name in the other culture.
Owen Rogers
That probably sucked ass.
Gavin Bell
3rd slide thread - Im counting slide threads
Gavin King
>could be.. but even if they had a high IQ in sub Saharan Africa they still would not be able to build a decent civilization
Then why did whites do it in South Africa and Australia?
Alexander Lopez
The agriculture doesn't plays a definitive role, as civilization can exist whitout it, yet the early development it's still surrouned with mystery as the first recolections of summeria include a pre-cataclysm age.
This cataclysm age destroyed the original civilization.
Lucas Harris
>Fan fact: coffee and guitar was invited by Muslims,
Someone got the screenshots from the user who completely debunked all of this bullshit?
Aiden Parker
The branch of these people in India were eventually forced out after a civil war between their people killed much of them off and then were forced out at the risk of genocide, massively outnumbered by the armies of the dark skinned dravidian people they ruled over. These people travelled west, circumnavigating africa and crossing the atlantic until they hit central america. From there they expanded south to build empires in the andes in peru, bolivia and throughout central america. They conquered the natives and established a similar hierarchy of rulers as they had in india with tall, fair skinned rulers ruling over the natives. Their numbers dwindled and their people were forced to interbreed to keep their bloodlines strong.
The chachopoyan cloud people today have genetic imprint from these conquerors. However as their numbers dwindled they eventually left as they were driven off after another civil war and risked the few families left being killed, they fled to rapanui and island hopped through the pacific to establish small villages throughout the pacific islands and new zealand.
Camden Thompson
yeah. that particular guy was hanged (he still had the rope around his neck) and was thrown in the swamp..
they think he was a sacrifice to some forest/swamp god.. but he could have been a criminal as well.
they found a couple (m/f) with cut throats as well.
William Myers
it must have been kind of an exciting time. to bad they didn't know anything.
Alexander Miller
Oldest artifacts are in Europe
Tells me that there is something wrong.
Noah was a lie
So he never had children
Science will win
These mythology religions are to slave people and taste for violence
The purge is your constitutional right
Indians
Blacks
Woman
Rape of young children
Jacob Gray
This is probably true
Wyatt Gutierrez
Because they invented this thing called irrigation and religion. This rendered them able to convince the other cavemen to join them, to help them build there temple.
>hey goy, free food all you gotta do is work and build this temple then we all get to live forever but only I know the secret so you should follow me!
Robert Price
>those comfy Sumerian courtyards
Landon Gutierrez
>Why did the first great civilisations start outside of Europe?
food
Empires like China, Persia, Assyrians were able to advance as a civilization due to fertile land to farm. They farmed food and created cities and more people moved to the cities
Adrian Edwards
because what they build there in Africa and Australia was with wealth and technology developed in western Europe..
when you have nothing to start with you will not progress..
Zachary Fisher
*it should be noted that you have to have enough food to survive a few generations for your children to learn agriculture and other means of surviving
Bentley Sullivan
>cherrypicking
fuck off you retard, stop spreading lies.
this could be europe, saying 90% of africa can be described by those pictures of like nambia and south africa (the most successful african country) is just boldfaced lying
Hudson Thompson
This
Dylan Mitchell
>tfw too retarded to include picture you spend 2 minutes making
Oliver Gray
>Jews weren't a thing yet
Eli Hill
like I mentioned with those places like Angola and Cameroon is that it is extremely humid... everything rots away very quickly.. Or too wet to grow useful things..
and livestock dies because of all kinds of exotic diseases spread by bugs and mosquitoes..
also namibia. jpg
Jaxon Gray
>when you have nothing to start with you will not progress..
But even when african-americans are given their own soil in either Africa, like Iberia, or in America, they fuck it up. And the aborignals in Australia are the most primitive race of all homo sapiens. They are mentally incapable of civilization. You can't teach them to build even one house.
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Tyler Evans
Mesopotamians lived in a region where they learned to make bricks by copying the natural process of mud being baked by the sun. They experimented with heating mud and invented the brick, thus all sumerian architecture is reliant on their geographic environment.
Romans lived in close proximity to volcanoes, thus they developed cement out of their mud and could build buildings with heavier materials such as slate or composite tiles.
Northern Europe has no Volcanoes and its environment is often dominated by rivers and forest. But to be technical, the Cucuteni–Trypillia civilization developed cities that are comparable to a London or New York in today's world. pic related
Gavin Clark
Were they multicultural societies?
Chase James
Climate, you idiot. Read a fuckin book
Jaxson Price
>Climate
That is not correct.
Joshua Reed
israel is even more developed than europe
Samuel Davis
Liberia is a case of western influences because people want diamonds gold and in the case of Liberia also exotic timberwood.
there was for example a Dutch guy convicted here to 20 years in prison because he shipped weapons bought in Eastern Europe to warlords in Liberia in return for timberwood.
and there are plenty of countries and individuals like that.. they all can fuck up a country in the end.
Cooper Allen
WE WUZ SUMERIANS N SHEET
Jace Powell
Cooper Gray
And what was Zimbabwe?
Brandon Bell
Fun Fact Europeans migrated from modern day Iraq and Syria.
TLDR; We're all Syrian-Iraqi refugees
Andrew Scott
Europe a 1000 years before Egypt became a thing
Xavier Baker
Cities are the offshoots of agriculture.