Alright so, I've noticed the new shill response to South African news stories They've been trying to distract from what's happening by pointing out the overall prosperity of whites in the country and claiming that everyone talking about genocide is an alt-right nazi troll. Ok so, I'm gonna give my counter-argument and then I'm gonna dump some links that can be used to red-pill some normies. Feel free to save and use elsewhere or to add to the list
Counter-Argument It's obvious that whites in South Africa have to better in general than others, however, this is not the point of concern, the fact of the matter is how quickly that status quo is changing and the reasoning and morality behind it.
Firstly, parliament has already voted in favour of a law that would allow the government to confiscate and redistribute land based on the colour of the owners skin. ie, whites get their land taken away and given to blacks KEY POINTS - this is currently just being applied to farmlands but it sets a worrying precedent, moreover, this is essentially socialisation of the means of production (consider previous historical examples - Rhodesia, Russian, Venezuela, etc) regardless of the colour of the person whose land is taken and regardless of the person who receives it, this form of governance always cripples a country. Moreover, many
Also, keep in mind that many South Africans (white and black) do not support this decision >//www.iol.co.za/news/opinion/sa-does-not-want-land-reform-says-irr-study-13568252
James Lee
recent changes to the constitution to allow for white land expropriation without compensation
Moreover, the person who proposed this law is the black radical Julies Malema (leader of the EFF ((the Communist party)) who has many gems on twitter and who famously said, "we are not calling for the slaughter of the whites ... yet"
>be south africa >black majority >blacks control government >take land from white farmers >encourage white genocide >whites still make more money than blacks at the same ratio as in the US AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
Brandon Collins
africa for the africans come home white men why don't they give the land to african americans so they can go home? i'd be fine with that
Alexander Moore
Go back to Europe, how would you like that? Mexicans are native American and thus have more right to US soil than you don't they? You stole that land from them!
Jose Bailey
we stole this land fairly from the savages. fuck you
Matthew King
Same to you, now stop telling me to leave my country.
John Hernandez
You for fucks sake go to college You for fucks sake leave Africa
They are actively trying to prevent us leaving, they want us to stay and get killed. Also, I (along with many others I'd assume) have been working our entire lives to make our lives better (Ive got my own house, car, insurance, pension etc.) If I sell everything and move to America for example, I'll be "safe" i guess, but I'll also go back to being as rich as a kid straight out of college living in an apartment with like 10 roomates. This may be unavoidable soon tho
There's an open offer from mexico if I remember correctly
Looking it up now, seeing whether I can find anything on it
Ryan Watson
would you whites steal these land in here to get rid of muslims i beg you its like living in bomberman universe
Ayden James
Very hard (compared to the USA), few places to buy from, expensive, various checks and regulations, hard to get anything semi-automatic. My mate had a hard enough time getting a single shot rifle and he only got it cause he works as a game ranger so he can just tell them he needs it for attacking animals
I don't care. I'm not flying my ass down to SA to save faggots that refuse to save themselves. Wipe out as many ghouls as you can, and die with a bit of dignity.
Jaxson Parker
It was over when apartheid felt. You should've said fuck you to the un and threaten to use nukes. Now just leave or suicide. What is happening was absolutely inevitable. Same with the UK, what is happening here us the result of decades of anti-white policies.
aren't there a few private military/ security firms working there? How do they get their weapons?
Nathan Stewart
Because Zimbabwe had great succe-oh wait
Jose Lopez
No, can't find anything on that, but it seems like it'd be the easiest way to get to the US and apply for asylum by getting a transit visa through mexico
Angel Campbell
traitors need to hang first
Benjamin Johnson
Go read up on the 1913 native land act and apartheid that allowed whites to dispossess blacks from the best land and put them in homelands. You people act like apartheid never happened. Institutional racism still has to be dealt with. Whites still have a monopoly on land and capital, most of the land which was ill-gotten. So through the injustices of the past the whites still hold monopolistic power over the black population. So the blacks who have no land or capital and who by such circumstance fall into the working class are now expected to purchase land from the people who have a monopolistic and unjust hold of the capital and means of production, how will that ever be possible without radical intervention?
Ryan Walker
Have some shame ffs, white south africans wallow in their victim status almost as much as people from Liverpool.
Caleb Gutierrez
That's being reversed in the last few years
Dominic Campbell
and so in your mind that justifies genocide?
Kayden Gutierrez
It would be an argument if only blacks were humans.
Robert Phillips
This is proof that even once wypipo become a minority niggers will still find a way to say we're oppressing them and shit.
Only white people defend minorities of other races.
Aaron Garcia
Humanity in general is a disgrace.
Aaron Cox
Jews had it better than most Germans in the early days of nazi Germany, does that mean nazi Germany did not have anti-Jewish pogroms?
Benjamin Johnson
Just fucking leave you dumb faggots. If you stay you deserve to be genocided by the niggers.
Levi Miller
there is no fuckin genocide. The whole genocide thing is fake news\propaganda. The Afrikaaners are screaming genocide to get countries to give them refugee\assylum because there is no way they would qualify to go out otherwise. I welcome you to come to SA to show me any genocide. Whites are 1% of murder victims and 8% of the population, where is the genocide?
Robert Hernandez
You are gonna be one of the first to die, you traitorous cunt.
Jaxson Fisher
I mean, its fine because even if your pet niggers get their share one day they will inevitably ruin it and eventually relinquish their futures and holdings to another colonial power. That's the true beauty of this all, even if they win a battle they'll never win a war. Niggers are destined to be serfs and are innately effective as nothing more than a laboring underclass
Charles Young
can't handle the truth?
Austin Young
>fucking whites stop trying to leave our country
Wyatt Ramirez
there's no genocide yet, but thats where it is heading when you have members of parliament making jokes about killing a section of the population, when you have your parliament passing laws that act against one section of the population
Xavier Ortiz
My ancestors conquered this land, fair and square.
Evan Nelson
>1913 and in 1918 a 100 million people died from spanish flu and in 1806 the Cape was under Dutch rule. What does that have to do with whites living in South Africa in 2018
What was the crime rate against whites during apartheid? What is it now? If nigs kill other nigs more often that they kill whites, that doesn't t mean that whites a re safe.
Angel Fisher
you want to stay there cool.kill some nigs for me.
Caleb Rivera
Well, SA has a high crime rate due to there beings a lot of poor savages. Crime affects everyone here, irrespective of race.
Levi Edwards
Sweet! A real Bit!
Grayson Lopez
You wouldn't know the truth if it ran you over in the form of a Truck of Peace. Remember that your children (if any can be had from your soy-ridden self) will be curswd for 4 generations for your stupidity.
May diversity be upon you, amd enrich you over and over until a miserable beheading finally puts you out of your misery.
Passing what laws excluding one section? the laws they are passing are part of reparation. The state will expropriate land and it will be owned by the state.
Jordan Thompson
what a faggot.beta fag nigger dick sucker.
Adam Kelly
Since the redpilled Americans seem to be universally against unrestricted immigration but want to allow South African farmers getting their land stolen into the US, instead of railing against the system, why don't you just use the current law like the people you are railing against?
Immigration laws in the US allow a whole family to stay permanently if a mom-to-be gives birth while on American soil under the guise that the baby is automatically an American citizen.
Why not just get a group of like-minded people together, put up a website after the fashion of AirBnB and invite South African couples/families if one of them is preggo? You could crowdsource the funding, allow them to stay in your homes/apartments while visiting the US, and omygosh, she popped a kid while she was planning to go to Disneyland! Now they can chain-sponsor 18 other South Africans to come to the US, just like the people from other countries!
An honest question: WHAT'S STOPPING YOU?
Connor Collins
Not true, even middle class blacks commit more crime that poor whites. Also have you ever think why blacks are poor? Maybe because they are just incapable of doings something useful.
Samuel Long
Socialism/redistribution of the means of production has never worked in human history plus, you want largely uneducated people to gain the farms. But hey, muh feelings
are the laws not targeted at taking land from a particular race of people? And that sounds suspiciously like communism
Brayden Morales
Busting out the "per 100000" murder rate when it suits them, but when it's cops shooting blacks in America vs blacks shooting blacks, no we can't talk about that
Samuel Sanders
nobody will just get anything. they would have to lease it from the state,there would be procedures, checks and controls in place to make sure that only those who can be productive with it can lease it. If they aren't productive they wont be able to hold on to it for long. The whole land expropriation thing is still in infancy, currently its just talk. Too early to tell if\when\how it will be implemented.
isn't there already black owned farm land that's not doing anything? If it's about making the land productive then they should just leave it with the whites who have already made it productive
Ryder Peterson
No, its expropriation of all land (even black owned) As to why whites are s bothered, how about because that is the only section of people who own nearly all the land despite being less than 10% of the population. Land that was forcefully and unjustly taken from the natives.
Jordan Gomez
in what way does this stop our country from being overrun by niggers and spics
Landon Collins
this is bullshit made up by white supremacists. They did not care about the numbers of black people during and pre-apartheid so all that is bullshit. All the white population counted and was counted. Do you think they sent white volunteers in the rural areas to do a census? what the fuck are you smoking?
>Land that was forcefully and unjustly taken from the natives. come now, you know that's wrong. >No, its expropriation of all land (even black owned) So it's just communism then? >the only section of people who own nearly all the land despite being less than 10% of the population So if a small group of people hold a significant amount of wealth then it's ok to rob them of it?
Angel Barnes
> unjustly Why do you think so? It is completely justified to take land from someone with 75 IQ and giving it to an efficient white farmer.
Noah Collins
yeah, full blown communism.
Jace Garcia
lol
Cooper Lopez
well the good thing about communism is that it kills communists
Juan Rogers
>So if a small group of people hold a significant amount of wealth then it's ok to rob them of it? If someone robs you and you catch the person and take back what they stole, are you robbing the thief?
Cooper Walker
but who was robbed in the first place in south africa?
Eli Powell
I was told that this guy doesn't actually exist and this account is just there to stir up tension. I don't know, it wouldn't surprise me either way.
Christian Bennett
Why do they want to leave so bad if everything is just dandy for whites?
Juan Reed
Why is it every time whites have to give back something they stole does Sup Forums call it a genocide? lol white people are so dramatic.
Evan Turner
Shitty 3rd world country run by niggs. Also they will no be living in a privileged postion as they were before. They will be treated equally like everyone else. The thought of not being special and not having privileges frightens them. Let them go to Australia or wherever, they will see how good they had it here.
Samuel Stewart
Enjoy capitalism with Twitter and Google in charge.
Kayden Wilson
you can do better
Ryder Ramirez
the Dutch goddamnit
Leo Harris
I will not dishonor you, senpai.
Josiah Sanchez
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Ryan Brown
Not everyone wants to leave. A lot actually like it here and want to continue staying here.
Christopher Gonzalez
>White privilege The same shitty excuse. The well of white guilt is running dry.
Nicholas Taylor
Brilliant, steal their land and massacre them then when they want their land threaten to scorch it - Ingenious.
South Africa seems to have inherited the lowest echelons of the European genetic pool.
Kevin Gomez
blacks aren't people so it doesn't matter what happens to them
Dominic Gutierrez
>muh ad hominem >more ad hominem
Eat shit and live long to taste it, retard.
Connor Rodriguez
Don't worry , they think the same about you and don't care what happens to you either ;)
Benjamin Stewart
I unironically hope every African dies except for the afrikaners
Ryder White
thats fine because they'll lose
Jack Richardson
>The National Assembly gave the committee a deadline of 30 August to report back on its work.
>If the committee decides to indeed amend the Constitution, it will have to draft the amendment
Potentially (likely) drafting constitutional amendments by 30th August. Doesn't seem like just talk to me
Jackson Taylor
nobody cares what you hope for nah, they will win, they have numbers, guns and army. Its not like back in the day where you brought a gun to knife fight.
Open your doors to the SAfricans whites, let them leech off of your welfare.
they have the numbers to turn on themselves and die. blacks cant do anything right, even win with such a numerical advantage
Austin Morris
They would actually win battles against the boers and british back in the day with just spears and now they have guns. Its going to be quick, easy and merciless for them.
Robert Peterson
t. cut the throat of whiteness malema
Christian Gutierrez
> defending Zimbabwe
Aiden Stewart
lel, giving them guns just makes them more efficient at killing themselves
