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What does Sup Forums think of a woman having a ton of children before shes 30, being a stay at home mom/homeschooler until shes 40, then starting whatever dream career shes always wanted? Could this be a good compromise for women who want both a career and a home life?

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>women
>wanting a career

lol nice joke

>Could this be a good compromise
Compromise is never good. Cunts shouldn't have "careers".

First comment is always best comment.

Get rid of affirmative action first and we can talk. Until that happens, I'm not convinced women could even get careers that weren't nurses and school teachers or some variation of that.

>homeschooler

Home schooling your children is risky. Sure they aren't indoctrinated with garbage in public schools, but they also miss out on a lot of the socialization aspects. Learning how to function in society, and how to make friends.

Anyone who knew a 'home schooled' kid when growing up knows that a lot of them were the weirdo kid that nobody wanted to really be friends with.

Yes. It's so stupid trying to see women try to do both at the same time, their career is half assed they demand the state babysit their kids so they can have a career AND imagine they are being a mom while someone else cares for their spawn 9 of their 10 waking hours.

Some women try to career THEN mom, that sucks as kids desire a shit ton more energy than any career and a beat 40 year old doesn't have the physical or mental stamina to take on a brood.

Kids, then career.

Is the woman hard working? If yes, then yes. Being hard working just means she will have the will to get a worthwhile career and raise children at the same time. Anyway, raising children shouldn't be left to the woman only, the father needs to step in and taken action on it

Fag

It's fine. One of the most destructive trends to effect the family unit over the past several decades has been the erosion of wages that forced both parents to work while raising their children. It's why I've supported significant amounts of mandated paid parental for both fathers and mothers like other industrialized nations already have. Ivanka Trump agrees.

A lot of women nowadays do. Not sure about the majority, but you know the type im talking about ---highly competitive and has worked her ass off academically and socially because she wants a name for herself but also biologically wants a family

As someone who dated two homeschooled girls I can confirm this to be true.

>but they also miss out on a lot of the socialization aspects. Learning how to function in society, and how to make friends.

Bullshit. You don't learn proper socialization in public schools. Kids in schools are in an incredibly unnatural artificial environment, surrou ded by hindreds of other little nimrods the same age, babysat by young liberal women with a teaching degree and no meaningful ability to control their behavior for the better except medication. Around children they learn to imitate children. Of course homeschooled kids seem weird to public schooled kids, anything that isn't painfully conformist scares the shit out if them

Not cunts but like, the top 10% of intellectual women....i feel their intelligence would go to waste if they just stayed at home cleaning and making babies all day

>compromise with
>women
pick one
this is how we go into this mess in the first place

And why wouldn't staying home producing and caring for the top tier intelligent men of the next generation be a good thing?

>woman having a ton of children before shes 30, being a stay at home mom/homeschooler until shes 40, then starting whatever dream career shes always wanted?
If you have enough info to ask a question, you have enough info to answer it.

What about those "schools" where the kids can do whatever the hell they want all day? Like the mom could teach her kids and send them to these independent learning/unschools for 2-3 days a week just so the kids can socialize and be exposed to different ideas, but not indoctrinated

Fuck I'm so sick of clueless cunts acting "torn" between two easily voluntary life paths whereas for men it's more "earn your place in soul crushing workforce whilst also building and maintaining a healthy family, and never forget how privileged you are"

In other words a woman should be screwed if the kids want to go to college with the high rates or if the man gets sick or dies.

(((cohencidence)))?
I think not
Public school kids are indoctrinated to ostracize homeschooled kids to make them feel like they're missing out on 'fun' when in reality they are protected from the rampant degeneracy that shouldn't be plaguing the public school kids in the first place

What even makes you think those women wouldn't just be out-competed by even smarter, more qualified men? Affirmative action is literally the only reason women have jobs in fields where men are also competing for them.

They are given careers for having vaginas. They're no better than niggers in this regard.

Your country should take your own advice, Paco..

Why would she need to start a career at 40?

You have been brainfucked by socialists and feminists into believing that childbearing is a waste, a second rate career for dull, stupid breeder women, instead of the most naturally rewarding, challenging, stimulating and satisfying calling a woman can have.

>I don't want the smart ones to breed the most
You are why society degenerates.

Meant childrearing, any whore can child bear. Feckin phone.

Intelligent men don't breed all the time but nobody calls them out on it and tells them to do it. Also why should a man get to use the intelligence for practical purposes and not women?

yeah, but the solution is to redpill them. "careers" are a jewish lie, even for men

It definetly is. Thats why im trying to figure out how a woman can do both... just imagine a woman who is a damn good physicist and has so many ideas to help advance our society.... of course shed love her children and her family, but shed also long to do her own research because its her passion...of course most women are thots...moreso talking about exceptional women

Career is just another word for a job that's not fast food.

lol @ starting a career after 40, being out of the job market for at least 10+ years

whatever human being that believes that will be very upset their pissed their life away

>making babies all day
>waste
shouldn't high iq women be passing on their genes?

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No dude, they never wanted (or forced into) to have a career. They wanted THE CHOICE of going into a career. Now, we have half the wages we should have across all jobs, half of the jobs that men should work are taken by women, women don't necessarily need men now to take care of themselves, and they've taken away the sole purpose of a man.

Because i think women and men are equal intellectually. Women have different hormones and emotion levels that can get in the way of them thinking clearly, but if they can overcome this then they are just as smart as men

>Intelligent men don't breed all the time but nobody calls them out on it and tells them to do it.

You must be new here.

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This is where feminism exposes itself as a simple socialist sham. Feminists are all about giving women choices, as long as those chooses are in traditionally male occupations like STEM, business management, etc. When women push back because they don't want those fucking jobs, they want to teach, have babies raise and care for kids, feminists get nasty. "Those poor little brainwashed bitches, we'll mock them and shame them and condition them and fucking MAKE them get into STEM."

>being a stay at home mom/homeschooler until shes 40, then starting whatever dream career shes always wanted?

While it is later than usual for one to start their career, one must realize that at the current rate of the rising social security eligibility age, even starting a career at 40 will ensure them having to work at it for at least 30 years (70 years, give or take a few years).

That's quite a long time.

>Intelligent men don't breed all the time but nobody calls them out on it and tells them to do it.
Actually, user., you'll see that a lot here at Sup Forums especially in the anti-cuckeeist (cuckold athest) threads. Advance the Cross!

So you think an intelligent woman would raise children better than some idiot? Obviously, once the kids are older itd make a difference, but little kids?

This is only true for wage slaving faggots that kiss ass for that 1.35 raise every year. Get on commission, kid.

>Because i think women and men are equal intellectually.
They aren't. And even if they were, there's more to job competition and qualification than intelligence, and men excel in all of those areas as well.

The truth is, you can't actually know if any woman would ever be able to even acquire, much less excel in, any fields where there is stiff male competition, because of affirmative action. Every woman with a career that you meet, you can reasonably assume only got that career because affirmative action got it for her, not necessarily because she earned it.

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>jump through his special hoop i brought out
Kill yourself, cuc'k.

Over 99% of critical scientific discoveries have been made by males

>reddit spacing

People can live up to 100 today. We're not in the dinosaur days when the lifespan was far lower.

Okay, change word career. Lets say she loves a field of science and medicine and wants to conduct research to find the best way to do something or a cure to a disease....i dont mean women who want desk jobs but women who want to make a difference

Women in the work-place leads to disharmony, user.

So what do u think then? Work part time just to stay in the field while raising kids, then go at it once kids are grown?

There's no solution, women just want to complain.

I mean thats the same way high IQ men should pass on their genes.... but should that be the ONLY thing they do? Be sperm banks?

Well I have 3 under 3 years of age and sure it's nice to dream about being something more than a mom, I'd probably be too tired once I reach my 40s to pursue a career. However I think I'll be alright if I ran a bakery/coffee shop after my sons get into boarding school when they're teenagers. I plan on giving them a solid home education since I'm good at making kids excited to learn. Thank god I took child development and Home Ec back in highschool.

They don't shame women for making choices. It's not the 90s anymore.

It's literally the only functional way to do it. My former mentor did this. She's a successful author and scientist. Husband is rich because he had support at home when they were younger. That enabled her to pursue a dream career with no pressure later. Seems unfair, but there's no out for men on killing themselves for status either way, and in this system you get children and your family is in tact, and you actually get to see your wife when she's young.

>she loves a field of science and medicine and wants to conduct research to find the best way to do something or a cure to a disease

This scenario is 99% fabrication. Look at the statistical data on what women WANT to do, the careers they gravitate towards. It's almost always something nurturing, relational, if not childrearing then a fake career that basically pays them to raise kids. Women, by and large, don't want to be scientists, they want to raise babies. This is why the pay gap exists.

dude you can bullshit as much as you want to.
a real steady career in anything worth doing is brutal and cut-throat, and being unemployed for 1 year even can be extreme.
you can have a "job" sure. Not a real career. at that point youre out of the current and up to date information, and your knowledge is (as implied) 10 years old, which is light years in any field.

woman should be strong like ox, work plow day and night to pay for vaginal rejuvenation

My mom spent lots of time on me drilling me academically and teaching me many things as a kid. I'm very thankful for this.

Women also hate female supervisors, probably a big reason Trump won

Their emotional development realy does stop at age 11. :/

Good thing befriending high schoolers doesn't reflect adult social life.

And im against that. I think MOST women should be homemakers their entire lives...itd be whatd make them happiest and their husbands/children happiest.... but i also want women to be allowed to work if shes passionate about what she does.... just trying to figure out how to balance that with her maternal role

Oh. I'm anti-Democracy myself. TRUMP for life!

Lol. Watch Brave.

I think you're fucking retarded if you honestly believe that you can ever please a woman and her fickle whims.
>school teachers
Yeah, careers earned on their knees apparently.

>Passionate

Yes, let's arrange our civilization around female "passion."

You are a roastie aren't you?

Im against affirmative action.... although that graph literally means nothing to me....no sources, looks pretty fabricated.... so youre saying jobs arent women friendly unless we kick men out? What if we create jobs for intelligent passionate women then?

my mom is 100% the reason why I'm successful and I thank her nearly everyday for forcing me to do the things I disliked most, and making me read and study languages, as well as making me clean up after myself.

dad made me a man and beat the shit out of me

dont put yourself down for being "only a mom"
you're shaping the future in ways a shitty office drone at the Post It note company could ever dream of.

>real steady career in anything worth doing is brutal and cut-throat, and being unemployed for 1 year even can be extreme.

Look who is bullshitting. I'm sure you'll define a "real steady career in anything worth having" in some bizarre way that only satisfies your criteria, but no, there are tons of high paying jobs you can jump into late and shine early, if you are willing to work your ass off. You sound like a kid, kid.

Career is just another word for any job that's not fast food or minimum wage.

they can do whatever the fuck they want

Why?

>i think women and men are equal intellectually
Well, you're wrong.
>just imagine a woman who is a damn good physicist and has so many ideas to help advance our society
Such a thing is only a creature of the imagination.

>dream career
nigga pls

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Im talking about the minority of women, not majority

No, that's not what I'm saying. Pay attention. I said nothing about "women friendly." What I am saying is that affirmative action/diversity hiring policies are so completely embedded in our economy that it is utterly impossible to determine the extent to which women are assisted by these policies in the workplace, and therefore any projections about how women would perform in competitive job markets in the absence of affirmative action is pure conjecture.

If you're against affirmative action then stop basing your beliefs on the results of affirmative action. It doesn't particularly matter if the graph means nothing to you, it means something to those of us who know what we're talking about. This is uncontroversial stuff. Men are overrepresented at both ends of the IQ bell curve, which is to say that most dunces and most geniuses are men. Since you were referring to the "top 10%" of intelligent women, then they necessarily would be competing against more than the top 10% of men, putting them at an inherent competitive disadvantage, at least insofar as intellect is concerned (though, as I stated, there's more to excellence than intellect).

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It's inspiring to read your life experiences and I hope I can instill into my boys the same admiration and drive for success. I just hope the world they grow up in doesn't ruin their life the way my parents almost ruined mine. I'm tired of this cycle of depravity...

By all means, let them go for it, just don't marry one.

Is that not wrong? How is it okay we imprison people in careers with no time to themselves or families?

Human passion drives ambition, whats the problem?

A woman's abilities to accept discipline and to discipline herself is inadequate. It has to do with hard-wired temperament.

The problem is that it's a terrible idea to organize our society around the emotional whims of women.

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I understood what youre saying. But where did you get this graph from? I've seen it around here, just havent seen where it comes from and if the data is sound. Lets suppose your graph is wrong and men and women are intellectually comparable, what would you suggest women do?

>please, speculate for me
Kill yourself, deluded time-waster.

Since when does temperment have to do with sex?

there is often a lot of crazy-ass cult bullshit that comes along with homeschooling and that's where the weird socialization comes in.

Needing money when the husband is sick or the kids need to go to college are not just emotional whims.

What do you consider cult bullshit?

Seriously? Btw guys I'm the husband. I'm reading this shit thinking wtf is going on in this bread

Wouldn't the solution to this to have a group of like-minded parents have their children get together once a day for "recess" and such?

Perhaps you pol/tards can elaborate on my situation
>be me, mid twenties
>have cute wife, also mid twenties
>i'm fairly sharp, sit at a comfy 136 IQ and good genetics, masters degree in economics and I work as a professional project manager in gigatier libshit vancouver
>make a solid 72k after taxes a year which is pretty damn good (Dad is financial consultant, got me a really good career when finished degree
>wife makes less but still quite well so we are living a fairly nice life although Vancouver is expensive as fuck city so not as luxurious as we should
>wife stats: quite smart, nurse, loves her job, lifts a fuckload to stay in shape (we met in martial arts)
>together we make a great income and in twenty years our income will be top-tier but we both want to spread our genes because we're both white, attractive faggots.
>What do? If she stops working that would effectively cut our income by 40% but we also don't want to hire a fucking asian nanny who just beats our fucking kids
>I couldn't stop working, the jobs im doing are crazy important and experience is a must in my field of work.
>returning as a nurse after years out of work force sucks but is manageable
>she doesn't want to quit her job for obvious reasons

Suggestions? Not looking to gloat or inb4 faggot thats wealthy and has gf on pol just looking for honest suggestions for how me and wife should bear our children and since we're both 27 the clock is ticking

I don't understand these people. They think that kids don't socialize outside of school. It's like they've never heard of neighbor kids. I socialized more with neighbor kids growing up than kids in school.

How could she juggle a career and multiple children?

Then that's not working out of passion, but necessity, isn't it?
I don't know, it's in my feminism folder. What I do know is that a quick google search of "female male iq distribution" turns up, as the first result, exactly what I am saying. And if men and women were equally intellectually, that wouldn't magically make them equal in other areas that matter in job excellence, such as the willingness of men to work more hours than women, or female agreeableness being more pronounced than male agreeableness, and various other factors that would play a role in job competition and performance. You're just assuming that if men and women were "equal" (whatever the fuck that means) and if there were no affirmative action policies in place, that women would naturally and inevitably be represented in high intellect, high competition job markets, but there is actually no reason to believe that, and plenty of reasons to be skeptical of it.

This is actually perfect.

Benefits for women:
>raise kids while you have energy
>get into business after hormones have calmed down
>won't have to worry about sexual harassment
>have gained enough life wisdom to actually be good at a career
>would promote workplace synergy with motherly/grandmotherly presence
>can do whatever you want without needing to worry about money
>don't have to worry about juggling work and kids

Benefits for men:
>wife fulfills purpose of having kids
>less competition from young bitches
>wife looks after the kids while she's young then supplements your income when she's older

My grandmother focused on raising children when she was young then became a successful real estate agent. Now she's in her 80's and makes artisan pottery. She's happy and makes our entire family happy.

If you need another example: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly

I suppose kids these days (christ, I sound like an old man) don't socialize outside of class. So that may be part of it.

Leaf Larpers get the rope first

What is going on when a court decides that a company must pay lots of money to a female employee that has been supposedly descriminated against? Do you call that "justice"? Is it peaches and cream? You're silly, user.

If you have been fooled by the quote "New Revelations" unquote that the Politically Correct American establishment has supposedly "discovered" in the last several decades, then you have only yourself to blame, user. All of my forefathers knew that women have a different temperament than men do, and they weren't afraid to build a more successful society than today's with that information, either.

They can use their intelligence for careers after they use their intelligence to raise top tier children.

>women in politics at any level

I would suggest adoption of already grown white kids to skip the adorable shit and piss phase like 9-12 range

just pick out the ones that seem most mature and they can basically care for themselves just red pill them constantly and shut down any degenerate behaviors. plus they can care for offspring in their teens

idk how you feel about adoption though. adopting white kids is expensive too.