What are the biggest WW2 redpills

What are the biggest WW2 redpills

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we should have helped Germany take down the UK.

The UK bombed itself
rations were a social experiment

Damn! Thats i wanted to post (((

The Polish did their best.........

true if big?

Wehrmacht is actually overrated thanks to Hollywood and video games manipulating the truth to fit them into an underdog narrative. The Wehrmacht was essentially defeated in the first winter on the eastern front where they lost almost all of their veteran troops while the USSR was still ramping up. By the end of the second winter the world knew Hitler would be defeated.

The Germans were behind the USSR and Americans in all military tech except assault rifles and rockets.

German military doctrine was inferior to deep battle doctrine of the red army.

Everyone claims Germany took on the world but actually Germany invaded the USSR with millions of troops from its allies and oil etc from Romania. Mean while USSR didn't receive help from the allies to any serious degree until the Germans began losing ground and were surrounded at Stalingrad.

The Soviet Union evacuated over 1.5 million Polish Jews from Soviet Poland before the German occupation. According to orthodox history Hitler killed 3 million/3.3 million Polish Jews. This would be impossible if well over a million Polish Jews were living safely in Tashkent, Kuibyshev, Sverdlovsk, and a whole host of other cities and communes through the USSR

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Allies killed the food lines and Jews were the first casualty.

America dropped nukes and targeted emergency responders then quickly outlawed both actions.

Stop fighting offensively against Russia in Winter.

hitler was gay

>Finland gets no land

Get the fuck out of here

1918 German Revolution and the people behind it is the biggest red pill
which is precisely why no one is ever taught about it in school

the United States would've been better under the crown and whites wouldn't be a single digit percentage of the world population

The USSR was the #1 reason for the fall of Nazi Germany
And Britain was second

Stalin planned to seize Europe and spread communism all over the globe. In order to achieve that purpose Soviets set their economy on full military track in early 30s. German
intelligence revealed that plan and Hitler ordered pre-emptive strike.

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Radar is a psyop meant to cover up the actual reason for allied success against the luftwaffe: carrots. Allies fed their personnel extra helpings of carrots, which has properties known to improve eyesight.

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Yes, yes the (((people))).

False

Winter is better than fall/spring where everything is a muddy mess. People literally still don't understand how invading Russia works and would still completely fuck it up.

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How would you explain the fact that in 1941 USSR had more tanks than all the rest countries combined?

but how does this explain the KD
>inb4 muh kd
yes I know they still lost

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The US was the technological giant in it, Germany excelled over it only in rocketry, stamping techniques and very late in the war - submarines. Everything else was American territory.

The Red Army was more competent than it is thought.

Market Garden had high chance of succeeding had Nimjegen bridge been captured on day 1.

Small Hitler's allies like Hungary and Romania were underrated given their relatively good capability.

Axis started losing on eastern front once they stopped having numerical advantage in frontline troops.

Hitler's strategic insight was mostly correct, his general stuff was made out of brainlet autists who didn't see anything beyond purely military matters.
Rations may have been social experiment true, otherwise they wouldn't continue after the war, but seeing as they were healthier than whatever British ate anyway...

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The kd ratio in combat was actually about 1 German to 1.3 soviet. Those extreme stats are from soviet deaths in pow camps who surrendered in the first year of Germany's invasion when they weren't prepared to fight. They were getting encircled and surrendering hundreds of thousands at a time.

Umm probably because the USSR is about 100X the land mass and border to protect so it made sense to focus on cheaper designs they could pump out quantity.

They weren't even concentrated on the west side of the USSR, red army experienced divisions were all on the eastern side expecting an attack from Japan. They didn't get pulled back to the west until Germany reached Moscow.

Omg someone has read books get out of here loser

Britbongs trained Soviets for war
Soviets trained Germans for war
Germans trained Jews for war

>cheaper designs they could pump out quantity.

But Soviets tanks had superior quality over Germans till 1943. Theiy BT-7 was superiour over T-2 and on par with T-3 and T-34 and KV just PWNED all German tins till 1943

T-34 was only just coming out in the first year of the war. The earlier soviet models were pretty awful which is what they had a lot of. They didn't start mass producing t-34 and kv until into the war

Nazi's are revolutionary, not reactionary.

Fascists*
Nazis with their rampant agrarism were definitely reactionary

If a Turkish General launched a military coup in the 1930s and turned turkey into a German allied fascist state then Germany would've won against the ussr

Doubtful. Turkey didn't have a mechanised army neither did Germany. They wouldn't have had the logistics to make it much further than the Caucasus mountains.

1918 is a year people like to avoid talking about.

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The Wehrmacht is overrated. However there is no question that it was the underdog and that it should not have even gotten close to the level of success it achieved.

>The Wehrmacht was essentially defeated in the first winter on the eastern front where they lost almost all of their veteran troops while the USSR was still ramping up
Was not defeated in its first winter. It achieved amazing results in its first 6 months. The Soviet's Air Force was wiped out, as were most of its tanks and 4 million POWs were taken in addition to advancing several hundred miles through Soviet territory where here were basically no roads or railroads.

>By the end of the second winter the world knew Hitler would be defeated.
Germany still controlled Europe and had almost pushed its farthest into the Soviet Union. It was not defeated by his point.

>The Germans were behind the USSR and Americans in all military tech except assault rifles and rockets.
Nope, no idea where you would even get this idea.

>German military doctrine was inferior to deep battle doctrine of the red army.
Deep battle is a fucking meme. There is only one reason the Wehrmaht got as far as it did even with its plethora of handicaps and that was its doctrine. It's successes in the first years of the war were solely due to its superior officers at every single level from its divisional commander all the way to its general staff.

>Everyone claims Germany took on the world but actually Germany invaded the USSR with millions of troops from its allies and oil etc from Romania. Mean while USSR didn't receive help from the allies to any serious degree until the Germans began losing ground and were surrounded at Stalingrad.
Germany's allies were of limited usefulness. And Romanian oil could only supply very little of Germany (and of occupied Europe's) energy needs. Germany was still immensely reliant on synthetic oil.

I don't think a Turkish involvement in the war would have greatly helped Germany. They'd have gone after the Allied mideast and probably ensured a complete victory in the Africa theatre.

America saved the west.

so while lend lease became ever more important as the war progressed it is nonsense that it did not contribute to Soviet victories in 1942 and 1943. Just look at he number and of tanks, aircraft, locomotives, trucks, tons of fuel etc sent during that period. The Soviet advances in 1944 and 1945 would not have been possible without lend lease.
Fucking end yourself chink communist apologist.

There is another aspect to it. Russians treated Caucasus as the proving ground for newly trained officers since late 1870s. They've had whole area surveyed, tons of accurate maps, numerous plans for every possibility etc.


Breakthrough there was unlikely

nazis followed more laws than the allies

Lend lease materials didn't reach the front lines in any serious quantity until the 6th army was already getting surrounded in Stalingrad, by this point Germany was going to lose anyway

You know they built a fucking railway from the Persian Gulf through Iran into the USSR before the USA could send much materials.

The war was lost for Germany well and truly by the time the 6th was in Stalingrad. Lend lease just sped up the end of WW2.

The "miracle" at dunkirque was hitler sending peace terms on the condition the forces would not attempt an evacuation

In the begging of the war with Germany Soviets had 1.700 T-34 and about 500 KV.
It's almost the same amount as Germans had (3.200 tanks) most of them were tins like T-1 and T-2

My point is that Soviets thoroughly prepared to invade Europe since 30s and built an enormous amount of military stuff in cost of life conditions and lives of their citizens. This was reason of the great famine in 1933 which killed more that 8 mln. people. But as a result Stalin had 22 000 tanks in 1941.

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Honestly that would be the holocaust either not happening or being so small but being played up by the jews as muh 6 millions

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That's your proof?

not that big of a redpill, but the allies certainly didn't "win" ww2 if you think their goal was liberating europe from tyranny.

It was a mistake not to drop the nukes on moscow instead of japan

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Lol. The allies made up the lie about carrots to keep radar secret.

false

the bulk of the Soviet arsenal was constructed, trained and deployed for an offensive war against European forces and for city sieges. not for defense

You dont need paratroopers trained with german handbooks deployed on the West Front to fend of trillions of miles of frozen nomandslands from polarbears.


false, false

the entire German border and East Europe was covered with Soviet forces and airports armed, trained and set up for an attack and invasion of Europe, rolling over Germany, long before Germany even mobilized the forces to attack the Soviets. The entire reason they got rekt was because Soviet where completely neglecting defense and infrastructure and where on full looting and conquering mode trying to bait Germany and then roll over them.

what has been pulled from the East where literally American tanks and other heavy American funded and constructed tools delivered over the Pacific route and no one is as retarted as your marxist larpers and knows lend and lease didnt just happen over night when it went "official"

not just that but they lost most of their manufacturing sector and population during Barbarossa. Despite that they churched out tens of thousands of tanks.


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here you can see them talking about the soviet warfocus, in early 1942 they had confirmed destruction of 34000 tanks

By the time 'muh 6th army' was being surrounded i.e. Nov. 1942 the Soviet's had already recieved nearly 6000 British and American tanks as well as thousands of aircraft. This was in addition to receiving foodstuffs to keep the population from starving.
Americans supplied all off the USSRs aviation fuel, locomotives, telephone lines, radios equipment as well as the half million trucks they recieved while the Wehrmacht was still using horses.

Also 6th army is the biggest WW2 meme the Wehrmaht still had plenty of fight in it. The end was Bagration.

I know it's trendy to claim the Soviet Union singlehandedly won WW2 on reddit but this is just the newest wave of nonsense historical revisionism.

Charadim vs. Misnagdim
This also loosely describes what is going on in 2018, where the Misnagdim have pissed off literally the world thanks to globalism, even when the Charadim are the ones who are supposed to be the psychotic xenophobes.

Wehrmacht destroyed Soviet Army that was to attack Germany. Stalin pulled his troops to the border for the eventual attack. Those assault troops were destroyed. There was no defense. Germans getting stuck while Stalin defending is what lost the war for the Germans. By 1943 the Germans were already dead. Probably the kd losses reversed too in Russia's favor. After 1943 the Red Army was absolutely deadly. Look how long it took them to overrun the Japs in 1945 in China. We really had no shot at containing Stalin had it not been for nukes. They would have taken Japan ahead of the US troops too. Maybe Europe too. Nukes stopped Stalin. But the actual army he had was very serious. They had millions of battle hardened troops. Nobody else had anything sloe to this.

And now try to imagine how many war vehicle Soviets could have been able to produce, if they hadn't lost so much of their territory in 1941. Even the remnants of their manufacturing powers were enough to overwhelm Wermaht. If Soviets had stroke first, they would've blown Wermaht up completely

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Land lease supplies were crucial for Soviet military economy. For example, USSR lost almost all of its aluminum production in 1941 and wasn't able to produce tanks' and crafts' engines. Allies replenished that scarce.

Land lease allowed Soviets to use much more manpower for fight instead of keeping them busy in economy.

No way the soviet rats used human wave assaults lmfao

"how many tanks could X build if Y?"
Stop having this nerd faggot discussion and ask who was paying for all the tanks on (((both sides)))

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reddit spacing. eww

Good job aussie you got the shill...

Eisenhower deathcamps

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>2 men (germany/russia) agree to rob a bank(poland)
>cops(france/UK) show up at bank
>cops declare their intent to arrest bank robber 1, but invite bank robber 2 to their side
>bank robber one knocks out cop one, sends cop 2 running, beats up every guy on the block (rest of europe) with some brown kid (italy) shaking down the other brown kids (north africa) for their lunch money, and is in the midst of thrashing bank robber two
>sheriff (usa) helps bank robber 2, and cops to finally push bank robber 1's shit in
>now bank robber 2 gets rewarded by cops, being given the bank, half of bank robber 1's house, and the title to every other business on the east side of town(eastern europe)


The whole set up is ridiculous and the analogy is imperfect.

Stalingrad was lost by the germans because the "underrated" romanians couldn't hold their flank faggot

This.
They'd actually be better off for it.
As opposed to the path they're on.

Muh six gorillion started way before Hitler's alleged holocaust. In fact after ww1 jews tried to claim that Kaiser Wilhelm was exterminating jews and used the "6 million" figure but people called them out on their bullshit. And of course after ww2 red cross statistics show there was no extermination and most deaths were due to typhus and starbation caused by allies bombing supply lines to the camps.

Even rabbis will admit the six million was a symbolic number meant to represent some numerology in the kabbalah and that the holocaust was made up.

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As I've said, given all considerations they are underrated. Romanians were outnumbered and outgunned there meanwhile Germans wasted armoured divisions in city fighting

The French and the English declared war on Germany, not vice versa
The French and English focused on Germany rather than the USSR who commited the same crime, possibly because they had the same (((Masters)))
After France was defeated Hitler extended a hand of peace to Churchill but he rejected it like the warmonger he is

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The allies firebombed Dresden and Tokyo and the US has been the only nation to deploy nuclear weapons on civilians. Also the US and USSR had concentration camps and the gulags were far less comfy than Auchwitz which had a swimming pool.

Oh ans USSR soldiers would routinely rape and torture women and children. Something an waffen SS soldier would be shot if he was caught doing.

Why is your map in Spanish?

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not to mention, the second world war was about Poland, even though the Allies never even attempted to free Poland.
In fact, for 9 months after their declarations of war, France and England stood and watched as the Germans and Russians conquered Poland

The war was a farce, a blatant attack on Germany for wanting to regain lost territories, simply because the English and French had a hate boner for Germany

because the jews control search engines

why does it matter it's petty straight forward

>allies killed supply lines

People seem to not notice that most of the bodies in those pictures were obviously from the final weeks of the war.
That almost all of them perished from starvation/malnutrition and disease.

If the Germans intended to wipe them out, they'd have used 1/100,000th of the resources of maintaining the camps by simply putting a bullet in each of their heads.
>tattooing people you're going to execute with an identification number
It was so they couldn't return once deported.

If Hitler wanted to destroy the international jew, why didn't he destroy the Bank of International Settlements?

Just asking. It is worth the inquiry.

the BIS helped the Germans though

HAHAHAHA FUNNY FACT: JEWMANS STARTED 2 BIGGEST WARS AND LOST THEM ALL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ANOTHER FUNNY FACT: YOU'RE SLUTS NOW, MUSLIMS FUCK YOU EVERYDAY. I KNEW GOD WOULD HAVE PUNISHED YOU EVENTUALLY.

Low IQ confirmed. This is a thread on expanding your knowledge about WW2, and you mention "reddit spacing" and shills? Pathetic faggot.

Nice bait.

Only way Hitler could win WWII is if he allied with the USSR permanently.

I agree with your point. It was Kursk that knocked the fight out of the Germans. Also even in 1944 the Germans still had a fighting chance against the Soviets but the collapse of Army Group Center spelled the end for the Germans on the Eastern Front. Also the Normandy landings and The Allies pushing north in Italy. Also the lose of Romania and Bulgaria as allies was a big blow

>Strong arms austria
>Strong arms hungry
>Strong arms czechoslovakia
>makes pact with russia and declares war on poland
>declares war on russia
>declares war on the US
>hitlers nationalism was valid but churchills was satanic

this is a bad meme

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the vast majority of these tanks were light tanks/tank destroyers (basically self propelled guns light guns.

Lurk moar.

Your beloved Binland cost uncle Adolf the war for not assisting in Leningrad
Am ashamed

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The expulsion of native Germans from various parts of Eastern Europe went on nearly twice as long (1944-early 1960s) than the actual war itself (1939-1945).

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> gulags were far less comfy
> memflag

Without proper reason to enter the war we bombed pearl harbor and blamed it on japan

Romania would have delayed the Soviets in the Carpathians long enough for the Americans to reach Berlin first and it would have been better for all of Europe. Antonescu hated unconditional surrender to the Soviets and he was prepared to organize a last stand. Considering that this is exactly how we stopped the Germans in WW1 maybe it could have worked.The Bolsheviks knew this so they brought back from exile the coward Ashkenazi King Michael to organize a coup and ensure Romania switches sides asap.

This is the ultimate WW2 redpill and nobody realizes it.

This and lend lease, Barbarossa casualties for the Germans and the resources being poured into the SU made the turn around as quick as it was.

I’m also going to be that guy that’s gonna point out the Greek campaign and some disastrous set backs encountered there.

>believing anything that comes out of the politicians mouth
You're so stupid and naive.

the Jewish lead commies tried to take power in a German civil war in 1919
>Hitler was completely justified in his hatred of jews

Italy is meant to be a submissive fucktoy vassal of Germany

Hitler wanted to wreck Serbs

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he definitely would have prefered peace with britain. there are dozens of other cases that could be made for the 3rd reich but the idea that it wasnt militarily aggressive is just idiotic theres no way hitler himself would deny it

Or busting rocks and starving to death in Siberia.

Lol spot the kike.
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Fpbp

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Don't know if he was telling the truth, but a French user claimed to be, at the time, a little boy who saw the Germans allow them to retreat at Dunkerque.

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