Re:Creators

So, was the purpose of this show just to showcase an original character (do not steal) who can theoretically defeat any other character from any medium?

MUH powerlevels

No, it's about a heroine whose goddess was killed managing to break into the world of gods, defeating all their trials and being acknowledged by them, and finally getting the chance to defeat the one entity above all the gods saving her most important person from death itself.

>theoretically defeat any other character from any medium
Not true.

1- She only gets the power of the characters she invoked herself

2- She can't do anything at random; she needs approval to do it, and it seems there is a limit (if there wasn't, she could just get Dr. Manhattan)

3- even as powerful as she is in the show, any character fast or strong enough could defeat her; she did not demonstrate any kind of reflexes fast enough to compete with Flash, for example. He should be able to kill her about ten thousand times before she is even aware of what is happening. Assuming she has to eat, at some point she needs to let her guard down. You could argue she can predict the future, but that power is not perfect, as she lost in the end.

>1- She only gets the power of the characters she invoked herself
What?
>2- She can't do anything at random; she needs approval to do it, and it seems there is a limit
What limit exactly? She was about to collide every universe in the multiverse to make them all become nothing. And what do you mean she can't do anything at random? Did someone decide she was going to make herself real? She would summon all those characters? She would create a new multiverse?
>any character fast or strong enough could defeat her;
That's implying she has canon stats. Her strength is as much as she needs (as she didn't even get pushed back a millimeter by any attack in the story she didn't deliberately pretended to take) and so is her speed (escaping an infinite gate in an instant).

Also
>she lost in the end
What?

Her power comes from people believing she has said power. Takuru Miyashiro could easily force a delusion where she's weaker than Renge from Non Non Biyori. Ded Altair
That's without bringing up shit from Dies Irae like Also Sprach Zarathustra.
Stop licking Altair's cunt. She's not the strongest ever. Not even from every medium, given the bullshit present in capeshit

Don't mind me, just posting shark.

The purpose of this show was of give us some good ryona material.

>What limit exactly
The limit is what she did NOT do. If she didn't simply erase all of her enemies in the blink of an eye, it's because she can't do it, for example. If there is a power she should use at one specific situation and she did not use it, it's because she can't.

>Did someone decide she was going to make herself real
They never actually explained this in the show, but it seems her creator had this kind of power.

>Her strength is as much as she needs
citation needed.

>she didn't even get pushed back a millimeter by any attack
the knight girl actually bypassed her defense. It just happens she had another power to change reality. If that attack was aimed at her head, she would be dead.

By the way, at least until where we know, she is still human for all effects. She ages, she needs to eat and drink, breath air, etc. like all other creations. Considering this, any planet-buster can defeat her.

The purpose of this show was to break our hearts by introducing 9 legitimately good IP's that could've been

Speedwatchers, everyone

Post more before the powerlevel fags get too annoying.

Gigalomaniacs would only have a chance if they are in the land of the gods though, since the gods are technically Altair superiors (though we can't tell for sure about the Altairs that Setsuna will create in their world). Outside of manipulating Altair's creators they wouldn't have a chance directly against her, she survived against universe level reality warping completely erasing her existence.

Multiverse-level omnipotent beings like demonbane and some characters from dies irae can defeat her easily, low level reality warpers like Lain or Gigalomaniacs only if they indirect control the gods.

The purpose was to blueball viewers who expected something great from the premise only to disappoint them completely.

I hope someone else tries this concept in the future and actually does it properly.

>Death of Mamika.
>Alice near killing Meteora and Selesia.
>Death of Selesia and Alice.
I agree.
This is the bullying anime of the year at the moment.

She seriously was the only thing that stopped me from dropping the show.

Re:Creators 2, coming June 2019
Post all the shark

What about the dick?
Can she defeat it?

The only proper way to do Re:C would be an actual crossover with characters from actual franchises. Problem:
1)Licenses
2) Good luck coming with battles where the outcome won't have rabid fans of the losing character start flame wars. Or having the creators themselves agree about who should win and who should lose and how it should go

>If she didn't simply erase all of her enemies in the blink of an eye, it's because she can't do it, for example.
Or more likely because she didn't want to. Why erase the pieces she bothered making?
>her creator had this kind of power
If you're implying Setsuna is above the level of every human, it still doesn't matter since she is in Altair's multiverse now.
>citation needed.
You mean she has a canon strength?
>the knight girl actually bypassed her defense.
As I said
>any attack in the story she didn't deliberately pretended to take
And it's not like she didn't lose her body 3 times in the series with no actual damage, so I have no idea why you think a headshot would have worked (besides the damage reflection).
>she is still human for all effects. She ages, she needs to eat and drink, breath air,
Is that canon?

Works for Super Robot Wars.

Shouldn't she be the female protagonist?
Why is she such a jobber?

>Multiverse-level
Altair is Multiverse level though.

What i said is right. If you want to add. she also gets powers from other versions of herself-- as long as there is approval to do so.

But the fact is that she is a slave; she needs other people for her approval and other versions of herself to exist. Anyone that can destroy the planet would be able to defeat her.

Couldn't some OP 2hu like Yukari or Reimu beat her. The mass amount of 2hu fanworks out there would probably power them up to Altair's level or beyound.

If having the real world destroyed would kill her and Setsuna then she would protect it though, so it's not really anyone. Especially if it means that character would have to find it in the first place (being a universe hopper) or if it's their own planet.

2hu doesn't have holopsicon.

>Why erase the pieces she bothered making
Because they were in direct opposition of her. She could just erase and create others if she had that kind of power. If she didn't, it's because she can't. The mere fact that she didn't achieve her goals right away means there is a limit to what she can do.

>it still doesn't matter since she is in Altair's multiverse now
She can be as powerful as she wants in her own universe, it does not matter to the actual universe.

>You mean she has a canon strength
You're the one saying it. I'm merely asking where it is said she is omnipotent.

>lose her body 3 times in the series with no actual damage
none of the attacks destroyed her brain. Good luck for her doing anything without a brain. The only time she actually "lost her body" was against the nameless girl that they created just to defeat her, and on that one approval dictated that she had to come back.

>Is that canon
Why would you think otherwise. It's like all other creations.

>MUH HOLOPSICON

Rare shark incoming.

O, MY RUBBER HOLOPSICON...!!

would anyone who has full backing of the planet be able to defeat her?

...

O MY TWITTER

She would 'protect it'? how so? by using omniscience she doesn't have to find creations she did not invoke to defend a planet she is trying to erase?

>Because they were in direct opposition of her. She could just erase and create others if she had that kind of power. If she didn't, it's because she can't.
They weren't. They were the characters in her story. Did you even watch it?
>it does not matter to the actual universe.
Yes, because the strength of the characters in their stories didn't affect what they could do in the real world, right?
>where it is said she is omnipotent.
She literally got a blank letter to have any ability she and Setsuna decides to have and it will have to be accepted because it makes sense to her character.
>none of the attacks destroyed her brain.
What?
Did you see the image in
Or the scene in OP screenshot?

Are the extra scenes in BD's translated?

Try the yama, her job is to hand out punishment to anything. And yukari canon said she, reimu and yuyuko in a team would be no match for shikieiki.

>her story
No; in A story. A story she doesn't have the power to change

> the strength of the characters in their stories didn't affect what they could do in the real world, right
She actually states that she is limited by the world itself in their second fight. That's why she "seems to be holding back" most of the time; if she tried to use all of her power, reality would just erase her like it almost happens in the second fight. So yeah, they ARE limited. It is also stated many times that just by existing they are already distorting things, and fighting makes it worst.

>She literally got a blank letter to have any ability she and Setsuna decides to have
No; she has the abilities of her incarnations, not 'any ability'. Someone needs to create a version of her, giver her a specific power, and that power needs to be accepted by everyone.

>Did you see the image in
And i believe i replied to it when i said that approval in the cage made her come back. It's what she explains right after that.

>and that power needs to be accepted by everyone.
That was the theory back in episode 12, that's definitely not the case. She's not a powerlevel mage, she is Miku with a twist.

>She's not a powerlevel mage, she is Miku with a twist.
Not that guy but, the more smut they do of her the better?

She was only trying to erase it because she was doing it for Setsuna. The logical answer to a new threat is to protect the planet for Setsuna. Sure, they might be able to never provoke her in any way and simply destroy the earth instantly (assuming it would have an instant effect in her own universe, if at all) while she is distracted and it would kill her.

But in terms of strength is like saying anyone stronger than the Kaiohshin is stronger than Beerus because they can make a sneak attack on a remote weak point.

Instead of the whole elimination chamber nonsense, wouldn't the government be better off hiring a bunch of MMD artists to flood niconico with various videos of Altair getting her ass kicked. Also hiring a bunch of porn artists to fill comiket up with a ton of books of Altair getting raped by fat faceless men.

I thought the purpose was to sell music?

Godtier girls, was the reason. I'm sure of it.

No single story will be fully accepted, as long as any story where she wins is acceptable then she is safe. It will be hard to overshadow the ECF though, it probably reached an audience much larger than any fan creation (and there she made that discourse making the videos the secondaries never seen "canon" in that possible story as well avoiding the trap she would get a canon version there).

>that's definitely not the case
Why? she can't create random powers. If she could, she would not go to the cage at all. She would already have achieved her goals. Hell, she could just raise the dead and get her waifu back. Resurrecting people is a very well-known power.

>she is Miku
Even that one is not omnipotent, by the way.

>in terms of strength is like saying anyone stronger than the Kaiohshin is stronger than Beerus because they can make a sneak attack on a remote weak point
pic related.

>approval in the cage made her come back
Well, too bad they didn't show in the original script she doing the exact same after Mamika's magical splash flare. She had that approval in the first place, what Meteora wanted there was approval to make her not come back.

>she can't create random powers.
Now she can though. Episode 17 Altair was much stronger than episode 1 Altair, and episode 21 Altair much stronger than episode 17 Altair. She is evolving, and will get stronger at each iteration of her own story plus any video the gods still make.

>Now she can though
through approval. With approval any creation can do anything.

anything on the limit of reality*

If they fuck up, reality will still erase them.

Well, yes. If there is a demonbane there it will have only a single canon and still be omnipotent. That world was fucked in the first place, thankfully for them only a good girl like Altair decided to appear there until that point.

At least setsuna and altair will be safe within their yuriverse, as long as they don't step out because they forgot to Re:Create air.

I think a true omnipotent being never appeared exactly because of that 'reality' rule that the creations had to respect. Otherwise she could just get Dr. manhattan or other bullshit characters.

>good girl Altair
fuck off. She literally killed people because some random people bullied her waifu.

Yeah, this show was an Isekai where the main focus was on the villians and the heroine had the antagonist title.

How far would you go for your waifu?

She is perfect. If I were to create such beauty, I'd be happy man for the rest of my life.

I'm fed up with this shitposting, I'm going to watch this show.

We don't know the rules for her summoning, considering her powers were limited by the time she was summoning. Only hints were that only characters that Setsuna liked (possibly because she understood those characters better through Setsuna's memories so she could use and control them much more easily) and that the characters were in peak popularity (since it was implied that summoning was actually collisions between the real world and story worlds, if she simply brought them without that collision the world would fix them like it did with Meteora post collision).

Is this the new fateshit?

Probably.

It's more like this.

It was garbage because it's based on a shit-tier philosophic materialistic concept that reality itself is a subproduct of the human mind.
The show itself is a demonstration of this theory which is present in modern ideas such is gender ideology that there's no truth or reality but everyone their own "truth" or "reality".
The ending that makes no sense is the result of such philosophy stance.
If there's no truth or objective reality so Altair can be anything because her mind accepted it, even the fact that characters power-ups came from this idea that "the audience must accept it" to sum up, it doesnt need to make sense or be plausible just someome has to say it's true.

Saved the show from being a waste of time.

Why are the sharkfags the biggest tsuns?

>If there's no truth or objective reality so Altair can be anything because her mind accepted it, even the fact that characters power-ups came from this idea that "the audience must accept it" to sum up, it doesnt need to make sense or be plausible just someome has to say it's true.
That was sort of the point. Altair bluffed the entire ECF (though she was indeed stronger than everyone) and made lies become real because when a character explains their ability the audience assumes it will work if the character doesn't act like a jobber. Altair just had to make everyone seem weaker than her and made them misuse their actual chances plot-wise (like Selesia using too soon and begging for her creator while using one of her trump cards or Aliceteria trying to solo the final boss).

There is no objective truth for fan characters (and lesser but still true, to normal characters for the fans), and no objective common grounds for crossovers, it's just what the creators and fans feel like.

After the studio makes big otomebucks with i7 they'll never look back on this flop.

Aoki can't live without his Nolanshit.

Then he'll make new stuff if they let him, Re:Creators sadly isn't getting nearly enough fan attention and isn't profitable enough.

>Re:Creators sadly isn't getting nearly enough fan attention and isn't profitable enough.
Not him, but I'm trying as hard as I can. There's only so much I can buy and create.
Only thing left is the silver ring at the end of the year.

I'm not going to enter the headfacts territory. To me Re:Creators is an endless well of content, they could cultivate it for many years if they wanted to. You can get a coherent, standalone story from every character without even having to take the rest of the cast in consideration or having to worry about consistency. It's just a crossover potential that could do nothing but grow in the right hands, but right now all we can do is to wait. So that's what I am going to do.

>showcase an original character (do not steal) who can theoretically defeat any other character from any medium?

That is call that a mary sue.
Also the main villain should of been a creator that is trying to merge his story with the real world so he can rule the real world as a god.

She's just muscle for meteora.

>who can theoretically defeat any other character from any medium?
this again?
even motherfucking cirno could sweep the floor with her

We'd be collecting Cirno's guts if a matchup like that would happen.

>what is gaps
user pls

canonically, but with altair here fanon things can bring in the table and you know how are yukari portrayed in the fanon aside being a neverending luster dominant slut

>fairy
she can respawn herself

If we count power ups from fanworks weaklings like Cirno and Rumia would get a major power boost.

Her power is derived from the imagination of humans. Just kill everyone on Earth and she has no power.

This lettuce is for you.

But that's what she was trying to do in the first place.

That would give her an advantage against any re:creator characters except Altair who likes to fight manipulating concepts (and Shark who would probably trick her easily).
Altair is not only a fan character but her gimmick was being a cartoon physics oriented meme character that could do all kind of dumb OP stuff. She has the versatility that few fan characters would have.
What if the opponent is an earthling?

I actually know of an enity that kills fictional characters by making people in the real world forget about them, but it is not from an anime.