The United States is such an incredible science and technology powerhouse. The vast majority of the innovation in the most important fields to the future of humanity - medicine, AI, computation - comes from the United States.
The US is a genuinely decentralised nation. It has major cities distributed across its entire area, and its industry is patterned throughout its exurban areas, rather than being clustered in inefficient central city areas. In the US, you can actually find an extremely high paying job while living in a fairly rural area. In the US, companies can easily just build gorgeous 1,000 acre + corporate campuses in semi-rural areas, contributing to decentralisation and to quality of life for their workers. This doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.
Look at pic related. It's the Jackson Laboratory, an important basic medical research institution. Look at its location. If you look it up on Google Maps, it's in the middle of fucking nowhere. It's literally embedded in a gorgeous forest in the middle of small isolated state, and near no significant urban congregations. This only happens in the US, and I'm insanely jealous. If there's an important research institution in Australia (lmfao as if) it is in the centre of some shitheap polluted city, in a high rise building.
How do they do it? Why can't it be replicated anywhere else? How do Americans get innovation and urban planning so intensely right?
We have lots of open space that is temperate. We are AnCapistan with just the right dose of ZOG corporate statism mixed in. The US, Canada and Brazil were created on the ruins of very decentralized cultures that left just enough people and remains to effect the settlers to do things different from Europe.
Xavier Long
There's literally magic power in the ground here via indian shaman remains
Colton Bennett
Our Founding Fathers were rich businessmen. Plantation owners specifically. They modeled things after what worked for them.
Jayden Rivera
Australia has vast amounts of temperate open space too but we don't do what you do. We cram everything into disgusting fucking cities. You can't build a great science company here because you have to house everyone in some soulless central city office tower rather than being able to use our boundless open spaces.
The entire eastern seaboard of Australia, up to around 300km inland, is temperate, forested, high rainfall. But we're not allowed to use any of it, it's forbidden by government.
>The US, Canada and Brazil were created on the ruins of very decentralized cultures that left just enough people and remains to effect the settlers to do things different from Europ
But Canada doesn't do what you do, nor does Brazil. In the US you somehow have this cultural phenomenon where you know that space is there to be used. You have massive 2 acre lot housing subdivisions, 1000 acre office parks, proper spacing between things, etc. It's admirable, but I'm jealous.
In progressive places they have been thinking of how to cram everyone together to make better use of services which are funded by taxes. People want to migrate towards handouts and government wants to be efficient.
In America we try and get away from Government. Give me muy space!
The US has been moving away from this unfortunately. Everyone was forced to move into cities after the 2008 crash. Many cities are overcrowded, noisy, congested, and polluted. Having better public transportation won’t relieve the traffic problem either, because most Americans like the independence of having a car and cultural enrichment has ruined our public transportation.
Juan Gomez
In front Perth and wonder why we don't have satellite city's but I'd say it somewhat a population thing. Partly a bussiness thing. If your a B2B bussiness you might want to run your business for reasons where everyone else runs their bussiness for example. Your also central of all the urban sprawl so you can get the biggest talent pool. And I imagine government policys come into play.
I always imagined it like online video games where you can buy and sell things. There is a natural tendency for trade hubs to form.
Sebastian Robinson
>In the US, you can actually find an extremely high paying job while living in a fairly rural area.
No, not really, not unless you're a doctor/lawyer/engineer/etc.
Gavin Rivera
these numbers dont lie
Dylan Flores
My roommate works at jax in bar harbor, holy shit.
It's a gorgeous campus near Acadia National Park, ridiculous benefits even for unskilled workers. Great employer, but my roomie says they waste stupid amounts of resources (for ex they're building a new campus in Ellsworth, and they've entirely redone the floors to make room for a certain type of fiber optic cable, when they could've used a different, more efficient type that would fit the floor).
Levi Brooks
In some areas it has been, but not overall. The south east isn't moving away from it at all. There's been massive growth in good jobs there (science, technology) and new companies are moving there and building there every day, and it's all in the exurban and semi rural areas. There's massive new industrial and office parks going up all over the south east with heaps of good jobs, and suburban subdivision is continuing. The standard minimum lot size for most new subdivisions in much of the south east is 1 acre, and there are huge green breaks and forests separating everything, giving a really good feeling of open space.
Except that it doesn't actually work that way in the US. The Jackson Laboratory is literally nowhere near anything. It's in the middle of a forest. And it's only one of an incredible number of examples. In the US companies choose to build in outer areas because you can get huge amounts of land for cheap and build an awesome work place, plus employees can buy good homes in surrounding areas for cheap. In Australia it's illegal to do that.
Also people always say Perth "sprawls too much" but this is the exact fucking cancerous attitude that's the problem. In Perth to get a good job you have to go and commute to the CBD because everything is there, in the US you can live in the outer suburbs of Atlanta on a 2 acre lot and commute 10 minutes to your beautiful 500 acre corporate campus to do really innovating work. It's also cultural, in Aus when the government chooses to build some new facility it's always in the CBD when they should think long term and build it in a greenfield area.
Matthew Wood
Yeah, looks absolutely awesome. But why does that sort of thing happen in the US and only in the US? Americans for some reason are the only ones who can figure out how to properly configure their land and not force everyone to live and work in some shitty innercity high rise.
Juan Reed
They like driving, they spend half of their life in a car. If something is not 100 km away it's not fun.
Asher Brooks
you guys pretty much have it wrong
to have a decent job in america you need to live in a city
some lab existing out in the sticks employs 100 people, there are over 300 million of us
David Phillips
>Thinking the US is anywhere fucking close to ancap
You just answered your own question in regarding government policy. I wouldn't be surprised if pollies are against it because it affects their commerical properties rental income.
Isaiah Bell
Almost every new corporate headquarters in Houston is setting up in the suburbs, often the far flung suburbs. Exxon-Mobil recently built a massive new headquarters in the Woodlands, not downtown. Why? Amazon is looking for a new HQ and people are betting it's going to be somewhere in Atlanta's suburbs. Go and look up the campus of almost any big good employer and it's in a nice suburban location. This doesn't happen in Australia, and happens to a limited extent in Europe.
The Jackson Lab is just one small example of a wider phenomenon.
Carter Gonzalez
>How do they do it? Why can't it be replicated anywhere else? How do Americans get innovation and urban planning so intensely right?
America is fucking huge, and people were smart enough to properly plan ahead.
Zachary Gray
Yes but the Australian people are against it too. Ultimately it's the Australian people who become politicians. Our culture produces this. It's completely endemic. Like, where should we build a brand new research hospital? The state governments do come up with these every few years, and inevitably build them in the already massively overcrowded main city CBDs. Why not build them on a bigger footprint in an outer, greenfield, undeveloped semi-rural location and allow the city to develop around them over the longer term? They can't think this way because it's not in our culture to do so.
Robert Rodriguez
Boomer hoods need to be nuked. Most American small towns are /comfy/ as heck though.
Chase Perez
>The United States is such an incredible science and technology powerhouse. The vast majority of the innovation in the most important fields to the future of humanity - medicine, AI, computation - comes from the United States. All by Jews, I might add. They do massive harm, and massive good, at the same time. They're the chosen ones.
Jose Cooper
Exurban sprawl is far from efficient. It creates car dependency and it quickly fills up the freeways.
But the idea that... >You can't build a great science company here because you have to house everyone in some soulless central city office tower ...is laughable. There are plenty of science companies in the suburbs, mainly clustered around the universities.
Justin Green
>Exurban sprawl is far from efficient. It creates car dependency and it quickly fills up the freeways.
Cuck attitude, exemplifies the retardism of most in this country though. Kill yourself, faggot. London is a dense city and its roads are more clogged than any part of the US. Sprawl is a negative word, but it's actually a good thing to use the space we have available to create liveable, spaced out urban areas and provide enough land for industry and innovation to thrive.
>.is laughable. There are plenty of science companies in the suburbs, mainly clustered around the universities.
Nope. If there are science companies in the suburbs, they are small, on tiny plots of land, and sometimes even in miserable industrial areas. And all of our universities are in and around our central business districts, you dickhead. Can you give me any examples of what you're talking about? Do you have any idea where our universities are even located? Actually, the funny thing is that when they start a new university in the US it's often on the edge of a small town, on a massive campus. Here, we start new universities in existing big cities and they are basically just high rise office towers.
Nolan Jackson
suburbs of houston is a huge giant city dude. i dunno if you have any conception of what a "houston" is
