Real Talk USA Gun Laws

Ok /pol, can we get a real discussion on USA gun laws? I own a couple of .22's for fun, and a couple of shotguns for home security and skeet shooting. However, I think assault rifles (or guns that can kill 57 people in a few minutes) are totally unnecessary. Let's have a real discussion please. What ideas do you have to lower mass shootings in the USA?
Note - "guns for all" is not an answer.
Also, "take away all guns" is not an answer. Go.

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What are you going to do if 57 niggers decide to ransack your home?

Shall not be infringed.

Go die in a fire, shill

Anyone who replies after this post is a certified nigger.

Assault rifles are highly regulated. They require your local Sheriff/PD to interview 3 or so people about you before they can pass off your license. Plus most rifles start at $20k.

Glow in the dark kikes

>totally unnecessary

Totally irrelevant

OP Nigger here. Oops, forgot this is Sup Forums and no real ideas can be exchanged here. Back to /b.

Dude some people need to kill 57 in hogs in minutes or they won't have a fucking farm to feed their family with. They're all tools. Case fucking closed.

The "problem" of mass shootings is being vastly overstated by the MSM. You're just as likely to get struck by lightning as dies in a mass shooting. 115+ people die each day from opioid addiction. That's more than 6 Parkland shootings EVERY DAY. Mass shootings are such a minor problem. The media loves them though because they are great for ratings.

the second amendment is not for fun, home security, or hunting.

>What ideas do you have to lower mass shootings in the USA?
gas the jews

This. I am a future former marine and enjoy hunting in my free time.

That being said, no one needs to be able to own an assault rifle. They are weapons of war designed to "assault" a fortified enemy position. Why would a mere civilian need anything like that? Short answer: they don't.

We need to a have a discussion about gun control and stop allowing gun owners to shout down common sense under the guise of being a "patriot". The real patriots are those who are willing to lay down their arms because they realize they are a detriment to the safety of this fine nation.

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>However, I think assault rifles (or guns that can kill 57 people in a few minutes) are totally unnecessary.
Then why do the police use them? Oh wait sorry, many of police have actual select fire ar15s and not just ar15s with a shitty bumpstock attached to it.

Also this is why you want a semi auto gun.

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There is literally nothing to discuss.

No real ideas...
Going back to /b
Take your shotgun and .22 and jump off a cliff

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what the hell

Parents can start by beating their kids again

Future former marine and don't know what an assault rifle is... bullshit. All former marines I know have rifles and would beat the shit out of your pussy ass

Desire to know more regarding this webm, user.
Wtf was the "archer" in question thinking?

It happened a few kilometers from where I live. It's literally nothing, he just drops his go pro. Only reason the bear even charged is cuz the fool waited until he was like 15 feet away to make noise.

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>However, I think assault rifles (or guns that can kill 57 people in a few minutes) are totally unnecessary.
It doesn't matter what you think.

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Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to have absolutely no knowledge of 20th century history. I'm guessing it would make you generally more optimistic. For example if I didn't know what had happened in the soviet union. Poland, Germany, Vietnam, Cambodia, and China, I might actually believe that gun control makes us safer. It actually sounds kind of nice. Alas, I have already eaten from the tree of knowledge so there's no going back to those naive notions.

More guns help reduce overpopulation.

necessity isnt a factor
its called the bill of rights not the bill of needs
SHALL

>Should have shot him a long time ago
What a fucking nigger. No, you should have left the fucking bear alone instead. Hooooly shit, as another user so eloquently put it this morning, this is why we need life guards for the gene pool.

We're not giving up one fucking millimeter of what's left of our gun rights. No compromises, no bargaining. The only thing left at this point is a confiscation attempt. Good luck.

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What's the deal with the Steyr? Did Fritzl shoot at people? Convict monkeys? What the fuck?

Former soldier here. You didn't get the joke, battle buddy.

>assault rifles
>guns that can kill 57 people in a few minutes

You must be thinking of black powder rifles. My Hitler autographed K98 with drum magazine and bump stock can mow down x20 that many.

Nigga, look up three posts.

Oh right, you're a le epic Sup Forumstard.

>However, I think assault rifles (or guns that can kill 57 people in a few minutes) are totally unnecessary.
Why does how you feel matter?
>What ideas do you have to lower mass shootings in the USA?
Would you be willing to settle for more mass shootings but less overall shootings and gun deaths?

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What about this one?

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This the new pasta?

I wonder what the hard core gunfags attitude would be if they had loved ones who died in a mass shooting. I mean its easy to sit and scream "crisis actor" when said shooting is happening across the country but would you all be singing the same tone of "MUH STATISTICS" if your 6 year old daughter was killed?

Address the social and economic issues in the US. Take action to curb the trend of broadcast stations glorifying violent incidents.

>muh feels when you have no actual argument

Its SSRIs that are responsible for all the shootings, by the way.

>shoulda shot him a long time ago
shoulda made myself known to the little guy instead of spooking him a long time ago*

>I think assault rifles...are totally unnecessary
yeah, you'll think that until all you can do is pop buckshot at armored infantry rounding up anyone with a dissenting opinion for execution.

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There are two things that I think would solve the problem.

1) require that all firearm owners have to get character references from their family and friends.
This eliminates the school shooter types.
2) Semi-automatic rifles should be subject to a sports shooter licence. Which means that membership to a shooting club/gun range is required, along with demonstrated competency.

Neither of these two things prevent a normal person from getting a gun to defend themselves, but should address the problem sufficiently enough.

Where's my SKS?

>he thinks mass shootings are real

fooled by shlomo yet again

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How is that muh feels? Would you still be against gun control if your loved ones got killed in a mass shooting?

Never mind the fact that you're more likely to kill a family member with a gun then you are to stop a home invasion in the US.

You need to stop watching CNN. It's rotting your brain.

>It happened a few kilometers from where I live. It's literally nothing, he just drops his go pro. Only reason the bear even charged is cuz the fool waited until he was like 15 feet away to make noise.

Watched thinking, he's just gonna bluff charge..... he'll stop a few feet away.....

Are black bears known to just make contact and cuff you to let you know to fuck off, rather than going full maul and nom mode?

Yes.

Are you a woman? Be honest.

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How exactly are either of those things going to stop mass shootings outside of your deluded fantasies?

Rifles, semi-auto and otherwise, are responsible for less than 300 murders a year.

You're trying to create a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.

You have a legitimate mental illness.

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As ive already said, it has nothing to do with home defense

>home defense
doesnt matter
>hunting
doesnt matter
>having fun
doesnt matter

this is not why we are guaranteed the right, any argument saying anything about any of the above from either side is a bad argument.

>you're more likely to kill a family member with a gun

30 years after it was debunked, you retards are still parroting Kellerman.

Guns for anyone who wants one to defend life and liberty

>, I think assault rifles (or guns that can kill 57 people in a few minutes) are totally unnecessary.
The thing about this debate is that your opinion is totally irrelevant. If you find them unnecessary, don't own any.

Yes, I would still be for gun rights. Some innocent people will die when you have the freedom to own guns that we have. And yet we will have the ability to fight back once we become a minority, unlike people in Europe.

This. Any reason besides fighting tyranny is distracting from the man reason.

The only arguments against it that I've seen have been when gun owners "FEEL" that their fire arm protected them

Also, you're crazy if you think that you'd get enough support from conservatives to actually fight the army or hell even the FBI.

>parrots kellerman
>claims the otherside's argument is feels

According to the CDC, guns are used anywhere from 250,000 to 2 million times a year for defense.

Face reality. Your ideology is broken.

The Second Amendment is a document which permanently grants the people the ability to remove foreign puppets and tyrants from government.
>You can tell the difference between a Leftist and an American between a person's view on gun ownership
Atheist Socialist 'Revolutionaries' in Russia alone killed more than all of WW1 and WW2 on pure political motivation.
>Why do you want people to turn their guns in again?

You're crazy if you think the army that you spit on regularly is going to slaughter tax payers for you.

>Ruger 10/22
>25 round clip
What is this shit

No one owns assault rifles

>I think assault rifles (or guns that can kill 57 people in a few minutes) are totally unnecessary.
congrats for being a faggot and keep your homosexual laws away from my rights so we don't have to waste you and dig a fucking hole

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>shotgun for home defense
How dumb are you?

the second amendment has two uses. 1. it means you have a right to personal defense and it means you have the right to bear arms as a soldier would in times of need. that means military small arms weaponry. which means at the very least an AR.

you have no idea what its even for. The constitution doesnt say 'so a hand full of retards can shoot the government' it very specifically mentions states.

What is the highest authority in the US? A 3/4th state majority. It can amend the constitution with out involving a single member of the federal government if it wants to, they can all just get on skype and do it in a minute.

But what good is legal authority with out the power to back it up? States have their national guards which answer to their governors, and many states have their own defense forces or other official state martial assets, and of course many federal assets exist within states which could be seized, but what ties it all together? The fact that scattered all around said state, decentralized and untrackable, is what amounts of countless state armories in the form of the private collections of its various citizens.

The 2nd is to ensure that a 3/4th state majority can defend against a rogue federal coup. The 2nd is to protect the government, not fight it.

We need "assault rifles" because they are effective against millitary and police forces. That's what they're best for. If China comes, or if the US government experiences a coup, or if we have to fight in a coup to preserve the real US government in the event of a takeover or shift towards genuine tyranny, we're going to need them to stay alive long enough to rally some support from a real military and get some better firepower. They're overkill for schools and are probably used for the psychological impact there. Now, I would gladly fire my AR-10 with a wooden stock and barrel shroud sans pistol grips and keep the stock 20 rd mag, yeah, I can reload fast enough anyways. Not sure about the AR15 toting MUH MODERN COMBAT TACTICZ ANGLED BACKUP SITES BRO "operators" but you can take away the scary black plastic parts if that means that mentally ill kids will stop sullying a great and useful rifle's name. If anything, please do. But don't ban them by name.

And if you take them away entirely school shootings will be done with dual-wielding handguns, which could increase the deathtoll as handguns and handgun ammo are easier to carry in greater quantities and faster to reload. The deadliest school shootings were in fact done with handguns. The majority of gun crime is committed with handguns. Why do we even care about rifles?

Or, hey, what if we consider why people are just killing en masse now when they had access to millitary arms for the better part of the century? Could it be the emotion-numbing SSRIs we consider a long-term treatment to sadness that nearly every shooter has been on so far? Nah, no way would a class of drugs known for dulling emotional responses turn people who already have an axe to grind into willing murderers, as if emotions (aka morals) were the only things holding these troubled teens back.

"guns for all" IS actually an answer.

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A.

I stand with the NRA, the more Americans killed the better.

you're just mad nobody will support your visa stupid chink

China will overtake the US soon, I am filled with pride.

when you care more for the deaths of people killed by lung cancer, heart attacks malpractice and other vastly more deadly problems, then I will care about "muh mass shooting deefs"

fight me faggot, otherwise you arent taking it

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Why do Mossbergs get shit on so much? They're cheap,practical,and fire anything you want to run through them. Homemade Dragons Breath? Cool. Weird bolo you made yourself? Do it! Also if you have guns for fun and home defense a Mossberg 500 and a Glock whatever number you like best is enough. After that you're getting into /k/tard land. Which is fine. I think you should be able to own RPG launchers and Howitzers. 2A all the way.

Alright Faggots. Lets see if anyone can break my arguments against gun control.

1. The right to bear arms isnt granted by the Bill of Rights, it is merely recognized and enumerated by it, as a human right. The right to bear arms exists in the same fashion now as it did then regardless of any law, bill, statute or code.

2. This human right has nothing to do with hunting, sport, or target shooting. It has to do with being able to use force on par with the government(which is coincidentally just OTHER PEOPLE. They dont know any more than you or I do about why we exist, and what lies beyond death) Why should the government decide how I defend myself and my family?

3. We need to deregulate automatic weapons, and supressors. Both have niche uses and dont make a weapon particularly more deadly. The current status of "allowed" weapons is disastrous, and absolutely counts as an infringement.

4. Force is the gold standard for humans all over the world. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or ignorant. They ability to exercise force is a HUMAN RIGHT. And should not be held in the hands of the powers that be in the government.

Prove me wrong bitchlibs.

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Fuck no. That just keeps poorfags and people with no family from getting guns. Sort your own country out faggot

2nd amendment wasnt for hunting. Raise your kids right and teach them about gun safety.