I'm a liiberal, let's debate

Come one come all, you pieces of shit hide in your little echo chamber all the time, so I've decided to invade your safe space. Bring it on you Nazi pieces of shit.

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Give me one reason why niggers are human

Sage just for you worthless fucks

Sup?

Are traps gay?

There is no point in debate, because debate assumes that there is an objective right and wrong, policies or approaches that are objectively good.

The survival of our people is the end, and all means towards that end, ate justified, no matter how hypocritical they may be from day to day.

Which would be a worse situation?

A:The United States initiates a full scale ground invasion targeting Iran

B: Diversity quotas are removed from all companies, organizations and universities

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They're equally bad

Cowards, how shocking that right wingers are scared to debate. Better get back to the important threads like repeating the same brain dead racial slurs over and over! LOL.

Why won't lefties name the Jew? By every definition of "privilege" you all bang on about, the Jews are IT. They're also deliberately exclusionary to others. Rampant favouritism, the list goes on. Why don't you name the Jew?

>wants a debate
>gives no topic

lel

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Debate what? The spelling of liberal? I say it has one I you say it has two, I believe you're wrong.

Ok, drew the poo

Fine, I'll bite. How is a massive influx of illegals beneficial to the country as a whole, especially when they flood the low skills job market, thereby crowding out the field of minorities you seem so keen to protect?

That's not an answer, explain why they're equally bad. Stop being a pussy and put your money where your mouth is.

What is your race/ethnicity?

Can you live steam your suicide?

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You don't want to debate, just insult people you have been taught to hate.

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>hide in our echo chamber
>as if Sup Forums isn't flooded with shills 24/7
the whole world is your echo chamber faggot and you can't even let us have this one corner to ourselves.

Alright brainlet, lemme hit you with this one.


Immigration, give me one example in your view why hordes of niggers flooding from the shitholes they come to the countriesmthey flood into is a good idea?

You don't want to debate, you want to vent. You won't change your pea sized brain on anything despite how many facts and logical arguments put to you.

Why are you using Pepe, the widely known hate symbol?

Niggers commit 7 times as many murders as white people, change my mind.

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Okay i’ll debate you
What do you think about the current news happening in austin texas with the bombings?
>pic unrelated

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it is a reverse pepe, used to show arabic/anti NS pepe maymays

Fuck you, you soyboy cuck

>The end goal is the survival of our people against all others everything is just means to that end.

Truth, let it set you free.

Why is the 2nd amendment bad?

>equally bad
The absolute state

You don't think human are naturally tribal and wish genocide to their out groups, and the best solution isn't a series of ethno states for the races?

Why are niggers and spics such welfare leeches.

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fallacy of many questions

how do you reconcile this with trade between nations pre-1200

niggers and spics need to get whipped.

Indeed.

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More whites are killed by negos, good luck proving me wrong

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Oh no not our safe space! what ever will we do!?

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Jews are white people, just like Irish or Germans. We don't "name the Irish" just like we don't "name the Jew". Whites have disproportionate power, and it is the job of all white people to dismantle this power within society. That whites uphold this system of power is the basis of white supremacy.

I'm a left winger, you're a right winger, come up with something you nimrod. You right wingers really do lack creativity, don't you?

All empirical evidence shows that immigration is a net benefit to the economy, legal or illegal. Moreover, there is a moral duty to help the less fortunate, and that includes immigrants, especially POC immigrants from poor nations.

I'm a white American, 25% Irish, 50% German, 25% Luxembourgian.

See my response two above this one

I wanted you guys to respond

Poor people commit more crime, yes? Duh?

Not sure, I'm an empiricist, I don't comment on things I don't understand

It's outdated, all empirical evidence points to the fact that gun bans work.

No, the best solution is education. Bigotry can be bred out with education, it works with people that live in the cities for the most part. Rural parents are uneducated and often pass on their bigoted views.

Ill bite, how is social healthcare good?

>It's outdated, all empirical evidence points to the fact that gun bans work.

Why is it outdated? What evidence are you referring to?

Because nations that provide get better health outcomes at lower costs than the US. Seems obvious, no?

The fact that nations with strict, strict gun control have ZERO mass shootings. See all of Europe, Japan, Australia etc.

Name one good reason why you shouldn't an hero right now.

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Blacks are impoverished at 2 times the rate of whites, they commit 7 times as many murders.

Trump represents the first serious challenge to the deep state (especially the CIA and DoD) since JFK, and that's the main reason why he gets so much shit from the buteaucratic swamp (eg Comey, Muller, McCabe Brennan).

FISA abuse occured and Comey lied to congress under oath about it, as well as a host of other things. There was never any substantial evidence linking Trump to the Russians, they were just going on a witch hunt, as even CNN host Don Lemon has admitted off air ("nothingburger").

>It's outdated, all empirical evidence points to the fact that gun bans work.
>outdated [...] gun bans work
Nigger, do you think that the 2nd amendment was meant to prevent gun crime?

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>Calls us Nazis
>Liberal ADL calls people Nazi
>Uses pepe
Fuck you

Wrong, France was one such example where the perpetrators still acquired guns. That and mass killings still happen, they just use different means like bombing, vehicle attacks etc. Gun bans don't change homicides and they don't change mass killings, they just reduce gun violence in which the vacuum is filled with other implements. The US doesn't have a gun problem, it has a black and Hispanic problem.

Why do you hate national socialism, or as I come to call nationalism + socialism, or nationalistic/socialism.

How do you feel about becoming a minority in your own country?

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Wanna talk?

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poverty doesn't explain the high crime rate among blacks. Pic related

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>bring it on you nazi pieces of shit
Sorry not worth my time
Had me at nazi

>The fact that nations with strict, strict gun control have ZERO mass shootings. See all of Europe, Japan, Australia etc.
How many people died from mass shootings in the US last year?

Ok Tell me why dreamers dont have to obey the same laws as me. I am a legal immigrant who came to the US at age 12 i have a green card i renew it every 10 years i obey the law.

immigration is a net loss for the economy when you take into consideration welfare usage by their kids.

>we have an obligation to help poor people from other countries
even if we did, the best solution would not be to weaken our economy and add further cultural divisions to the successful countries on earth, while only helping like 0.01% of the global poor--the solution would be to help them develop their home countries with western institutions like rule of law and free markets.

Nice b8 m8

>Trump represents the first serious challenge to (((the deep state)))

Trump is the most pro-jew kike loving president in American history you fucking idiot.

Hard to believe that in this timeline there are still people out there who have yet to learn not to look at anything a politician does or says but the long-term effects and actions there-of.

I'm sure that cuck NYC liberal self avowed democrat is having a good laugh at you knuckleheads.

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Ok i'll bite, why is immigration being pushed so hard by the entire left and the RINO half of the republican party?

What did you think about the officer with the gun that shot the shooter at the high school today? Is it a good policy now that it has been proven to work better than waiting on police to arrive?

Does a gun kill people or do people kill people? And how about cars?

Do you believe that the right to own firearms as outlined in the bill of rights, was for shooting deer?

Do you believe in God? (you will say unfair question) try to answer it as best you can.

What are your feelings on "universal basic income".

The welfare system is being scaled back, is this a good thing?

wat value to shareholders add to healthcare delibery

Because I have a family and am active and well respected within my community. Maybe trailer trash like you should maybe start applying yourself instead of telling people to kill themselves or calling POC racial slurs?

And? Do you not think there are a plethora of historical circumstances that might contribute to that? Lack of education funding for CENTURIES? Being discriminated against in the job market for CENTURIES? I mean hell, it took decades to ween you conservabigots off your racism, but it worked. Change happens slowly, the fact that it hasn't happened overnight is not evidence of your little "blacks are inferior" pseudoscientific crap.

Original intent doesn't matter, it's an empirical fact that allowing guns today makes us less safe than other industrialized nations. Even Jefferson said that each new generation should have a new government, that's why there's a mechanism in place to amend the constitution. You know what an amendment is, right?

It still happens at far lower rates, and the numbers aren't even close. Look at the facts man, you should understand this, your country is incredibly gun free and incredibly mass shooting free. Pretty obvious conclusion to draw there.

Nationalism is one of the worst scourges to ever plague this planet. It's evil to the core, it places pride in unearned traits and inspires exclusionary feelings towards the outgroup.

I don't even think about it. Do you think this paranoid fear you have about becoming a minority might be due to the fact that white people treated POC horribly, and you fear they'll be as bad as we were? I can assure you they won't.

I know, I listed several other causes (which are only a drop in the bucket) a few replies up, check it out.

More than in any other country with strict gun laws, so more than necessary.

>All empirical evidence shows that immigration is a net benefit to the economy
Empirical evidence points on huge possibility of false flags with guns involved and narrative pushing by google bots on facebook with simultaneous bans on normal people accounts.
What else ZERO Japan has, for example?

>More than in any other country with strict gun laws, so more than necessary.
Answer my question, how many died from mass shootings last year? You are well versed on this topic right so that shouldn't be hard to answer?

>jew loving
Israel is white nationalist and very right wing. Anyway that has nothing to do with the fact that for the first time in HISTORY, Trump is auditing the pentagon, and recently he ended a trillion dollar CIA program to fund syrian "rebels". Also, the whole of the deep state is clamoring against him--just look at what corrupt former CIA director John Brennan (who spied on congress and lied about it under oath) had to say about Trump.

>, it places pride in unearned traits and inspires exclusionary feelings towards the outgroup.
Why are you against a system used to unite stratified classes in a nation, it serves a function to bring allegiance to ones country.

No amount of education will eradicate the tribal instincts of human beings. Your idea of education is flawed.

Besides human are a series of sub-species, caused by thousands of years of divergent evolution, ever since the first migrated out of africa. We are biologically different to the point of natural social preference for our own sub-species. Ethno state won't solve everything, but is will reduce problems greatly.

You don't even know the definition of bigotry.

And still the US has virtually no deaths per year to mass shootings when considering the population size. Mass shootings are a vanishingly rare phenomena and one off events like the Florida school shooting are used to push a narrative despite the trend pointing towards the contrary. Homicide rates are the thing that should be looked at yet you won't bring that up will you? I wonder why.

>Because nations that provide get better health outcomes at lower costs than the US. Seems obvious, no?
citation needed

>original intent doesn't matter
so we can just get rid of due process and freedom of speech and get rid of congress? cool

>it's an empirical fact that allowing guns today makes us less safe than other industrialized nations
There is no data to suggest such a thing. If you're an empiricist then you should know first of all it's not so black and white, and second of all if you look at the experimental data, the violent crime and murder rate trends don't vary significantly when gun control is passed. If you look at Kennesaw, GA, they passed a law that required heads of households to own a gun in 1982. Property crime went down 85% in the following decade.

>And? Do you not think there are a plethora of historical circumstances that might contribute to that? Lack of education funding for CENTURIES? Being discriminated against in the job market for CENTURIES? I mean hell, it took decades to ween you conservabigots off your racism, but it worked. Change happens slowly, the fact that it hasn't happened overnight is not evidence of your little "blacks are inferior" pseudoscientific crap.

Are you claiming some sort of genetic memory that's creating a propensity for violence? These kids didn't grow up in that. They're only impoverished at two times the rate. Far more poor blacks commit murder than poor whites. They have the same education and opportunities.

>Lack of education funding for CENTURIES? Being discriminated against in the job market for CENTURIES? I mean hell, it took decades to ween you conservabigots off your racism, but it worked. Change happens slowly, the fact that it hasn't happened overnight is not evidence of your little "blacks are inferior" pseudoscientific crap.
Blacks were doing better in society in the 1940s than they are doing now. That obviously can't be because of discrimination. I would argue thy are predisposed to a low IQ and more importantly they have a horrid culture of single motherhood and glamorizing crime.

debate what tho? social justice? economy? current/upcoming events?

The democrat party didn't own education back then either. Makes ya think.

They were brought here as children through no fault of their own, I wouldn't fault you if you didn't have a green card, so there is no double standard. We don't hold children accountable for the crimes of their parents, that's common law tradition that goes back centuries.

It's absolutely not, you're not up to date on the latest literature.

Maybe on this point, but we have these institutions in place already, so there's no sense not allowing others to use them. Moreover, we also played a role in destroying/destabilizing other nations that would have these institutions by now if not for us.

Some people understand the evidence on immigration and can see that it's a good thing, it's not some nefarious plot.

I suppose it's fine, but it wouldn't be needed if there were no access to guns for civilians just like other industrialized nations. There are still two people dead, that wouldn't have happened in other countries. Don't you care about the fact that two people died before the shooter was killed?

A person needs to operate those things.

It was for whatever reason the founders stated it was for, I have no problem admitting this nor do I really care about their original intent.

No, I am an empiricist.

Could be something nice to experiment with, like I said I am an empiricist.

No, especially not as purchasing power is going down and the cost of living is rising. This is a repuglican attack on the poor, just like always.

Not sure what this even means.

They have zero guns and zero mass shootings, it's very, very clear. The evidence is in.

The number is irrelevant and not something I know off the top of my head, what is relevant is that the number could be ZERO if we simply followed the model laid out by other industrialized nations.

The only thing holding blacks back now is the lefty's insistence that they not integrate into society. African American culture invented in the 70's is a guide book on how to be a failure in modern society.

>The number is irrelevant
>statistics and math are irrelevant
liberals everyone
Why can't I apply your immigration to illegal immigrants? If they end up killing people here which they have them why not deport them all? We would have ZERO deaths from illegals if they were deported after all.

So equal protection , literally the basis for all civil right legislation in the US should be ignored in this case . When one of the other posters here becomes Governor of Alabama and sites the dreamers as the basis for Race based laws will you still be happy.

Won't address this I wonder why.

>Moreover, we also played a role in destroying/destabilizing other nations that would have these institutions by now if not for us.
Wrong. Western Civ and its unique institutions are special and not at all inevitable. Pic related.

>you're not up to date on the literature
Really? Or are you just saying that? If you actually have any evidence to back that up, feel free to share, but as it stands hispanics are a net drain on the federal budget, and even if the first generation of illegals or green cards can't get welfare and are a net positive, their 6 kids sure can and also use the school systems and local infrastructure.

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>They have zero guns and zero mass shootings, it's very, very clear. The evidence is in.
You wouldn't say this if you were actually an empiricist and knew how to collect experimenta data instead of just pointing to anecdotal evidence. Chicago is a shithole and it has the strictest gun laws in the nation, whereas North Dakota and Vermont, with some of the loosest laws, are the most peaceful places in the US. See, I can do that too!

Shill.

Socialism unites stratified classes, nationalism was the most destructive force the planet has ever seen, and caused the two most deadly conflicts the planet has ever seen leaving hundreds of millions dead.

Then why has it worked in educated white people, who have no in group preference for whites? I'm one of them, I'm sure you would agree many white liberals have no in group preference for white people. It absolutely has worked.

They still happen more often than other countries with different policies, therefore they could be happening less if we used those policies.

See the attached image. Also see almost any literature on the subject.

We could if people wanted it yes, freedom of speech was added through an amendment and it can be removed through one.

Japan has strict gun control and no mass shootings. Australia passed gun control and now has no more mass shootings. Passing gun control in a small pocket of the US which is surrounded by non gun controlled areas is not a fair experiment.

No, but things are passed down culturally, just like language is passed down. I never implicated genes anywhere in that process. They absolutely do not have the same opportunity and education, that's a total fabrication.

By what metric were they doing better? They couldn't even use the same water fountains as white folks.

Whatever you want buddy.

Your distinction between "legal" and "illegal" is a wholey arbitrary one, based on the fickleness of man made law systems. Yes, I suppose you would have no "illegal immigrant murders" if you have no illegal immigrants, but this is a tautology, you'd have no murders if you had no humans. However, it's not arbitrary to say that a nation either has guns or no guns, guns are physical things with distinct properties, not legal fictions.

Shill.

Shill.

Show is your tits roastie

Sage

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You're here forever now.

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Absolute shit analysis, the US is drastically different from these countries and it'd be simply asinine to assume the difference comes purely from gun laws. This is why I'd rather talk about homicide rates as it's a far more concrete metric to compare yet you still refuse to talk about.

>hide in your little echo chamber all the time
I live in an entire state of like minded people, what now faggot?

Reapeats spoonfed MSM drivel. Shill.

>Jews are white people, just like Irish or Germans. We don't "name the Irish" just like we don't "name the Jew". Whites have disproportionate power, and it is the job of all white people to dismantle this power within society. That whites uphold this system of power is the basis of white supremacy.
Even Jews do not consider themselves to be White unless they are trying to trick Whites into doing their bidding. They are an alien race.

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>Your distinction between "legal" and "illegal" is a wholey arbitrary one, based on the fickleness of man made law systems.

You know murder is a man made law we shouldn't break? Should we throw that out because it's man made?

Shill.

user... you must be confused
I can only speak for myself, but I have spent the last decade+ waiting for the day that you faggot communists try violent action
I spent high school and college listening to failed loser teachers and professors, my hopelessly brainwashed peers, the media, hollywood, and all normies shit on Christianity, shit on America, shit on the Right wing and conservatives
I used to try to win lefties over, to reason with you, I used to want everyone to live happily together and not bother anyone
but after the last few years, what I really want goes so far beyond being "willing to kill"
if you faggot retards ever actually manage to pull something big and dangerous enough to bring people like me out to risk everything I have, you will wish that we are only willing to kill
I am willing and frothing at the mouth to not just kill you traitors and faggot crybullies but to make sure future generations for hundreds of years will tell horror stories of what happened to the brave antifascist activists when the white man finally stood up
if you aren't afraid of being made a bestgore.com celebrity, you truly don't understand what you're up against
do you know why white pride and white identity are so discouraged?
because the world knows what happens when the benevolent white man is backed into a corner facing his own destruction
we will literally eat you alive
go watch some vids on bestgore from the cartels or brazilian prisons, because when shtf, I promise you user, my goal is to make those videos seem like child's play for what faggots like you have done to this country, to the world, to innocent children
you are so naive and unprepared it's almost tragic

Nobody died. Maybe the news on facebook or cnn reported that but they are still alive although one is in critical.

Immigration is fine when needed by the country, for that said country's benefit.

How does importing several million people who don't understand the english language and have no money benefiting the country?

Answer it doesn't. And you are right, it isn't nefarious to the ones doing the importing. The democrat party wants the votes and a permanent underclass, and RINOs want the cheap labor, I should say the people donating to their campaigns, chamber of commerce specifically.

And so you are saying that welfare is GOOD for the population? More of it is GOOD?

>Moreover, there is a moral duty to help the less fortunate, and that includes immigrants, especially POC immigrants from poor nations.

HELP BROWNIES AND IF YOU DONT YOURE A FUCKING MONSTER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>Legal vs. illegal immigrants doesn't matter because it's just a man made law
Well shit I guess its the same for murder. I mean, If it's just illegal because it's some man-made law, does it really matter?

/ourguy/

How is it "equal protection" to punish one person for something someone else did? That's a misapplication of that legal doctrine if I've ever seen it, try to be honest here bud.

Already did, keep the paranoid thinking out of this thread. I'm replying to a lot of people, it takes time. You right wingers love this paranoid stuff though, don't you?

You could draw that map at multiple times throughout human history and get totally different results. Things are dynamic and changing, it's not inevitable that only some nations have rule of law.

Yes, the latest literature supports what I'm saying, you ought to read up on it before you continue to look like a buffoon.

See the attached image. We don't need to cherry pick, the data is in.

So nothing then, just call my argument asinine? You right wingers really don't know how to debate, do you?

I can tell.

Zero evidence for this assertion, just some cherry picked quotes and a paranoid, anti semitic conspiracy theory. As expected really.

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very young, you can tell. It almost sounds like "well that's what my teacher told me in school yesterday".

You have been indoctrinated. Sorry.

>Socialism unites stratified classes
As a former socialist this is wrong. Socialism is class dominance for the poor. Nationalism is destructive if it needs to be but is unifying. Look at Mexico and their nationalism. Its healthy and unifies them.
>Then why has it worked in educated white people
It doesn't you are very unlikely to find whites living around black neighborhoods. White flight is a term for a reason.
>more often than other countries with different policies
Wrong, they happen less often in white countries with these policies.
>They absolutely do not have the same opportunity and education
Fake adoptions studies show this is bullshit, blacks even when raised by white parents and away from culture of discrimination do shit. They have a lower IQ and so should not be expected to do as well.

>They absolutely do not have the same opportunity and education, that's a total fabrication.
They actually have more opportunity and education due to programs focused on giving blacks opportunities and education.